[leaf-devel] Bering USB example and question

2003-02-01 Thread Jacques Nilo
Ivica: I am forwarding your very interesting detailed mail to the LEAF user devel lists since I am sure it will of interest to those who are interested in booting Bering out an USB device. If your trick does the job I would say it's just fine. I would just put the delay statement after a

[leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Jaime Nebrera Herrera
Hi all, I have been following the discussion about the need for a graphical system to configure LEAF systems. As it has been already commented, one of the daunting tasks is to be able to work through the easy system and keep the power of direct editing. We faced that question some time

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Lynn Avants
On Saturday 01 February 2003 05:16 am, you wrote: Hi all, I have been following the discussion about the need for a graphical system to configure LEAF systems. As it has been already commented, one of the daunting tasks is to be able to work through the easy system and keep the power of

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Forgot to reply-all... :-/ Original Message Subject: Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration] Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 09:15:15 -0600 From: Charles Steinkuehler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jaime Nebrera Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jaime

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Eric Wolzak
Hello Jaime , List Hi all, I have been following the discussion about the need for a graphical system to configure LEAF systems. As it has been already commented, one of the daunting tasks is to be able to work through the easy system and keep the power of direct editing. Agreed

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Jaime Nebrera Herrera
Hi Lynn and others: This is exactly what I have had in mind. I'm still working on the database/variable file for my own testing. The only problem with this idea is that it modifies existing packages (substution variables), No it doesnt. Standard config files can be kept as they are

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Lynn Avants wrote: This is exactly what I have had in mind. I'm still working on the database/variable file for my own testing. The only problem with this idea is that it modifies existing packages (substution variables), but it nullifies the need to generate all the needed conf files saving

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Mike Noyes
On Sat, 2003-02-01 at 10:54, Charles Steinkuehler wrote: To avoid re-inventing the wheel, I would suggest an RDB format database system, which is built out of plain ascii text files, and manipulated with small programs via shell scripts. Something like rdb (perl) or nosql (shell awk):

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Jaime Nebrera Herrera
Hi Eric and List, How large is the E-Smith (scripts Suite) and what does it need (perl ? ) I dont know how big E-Smith suite is as there are many other things involved. Their system is more complex than described (the files are build gluing toguether files in a directoy and other stuff).

Re: [leaf-devel] [config] Webconfig wish list

2003-02-01 Thread Matt Schalit
Eric Wolzak wrote: Hello Ray Matt, first of all thanks for your reactions. And thank for your replies. Basically it'd be nice to gui some tasks, ok I get the desire. Weblet has proven that it can produce a screenful of useful info, gathered from several commands and organized well. But

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Lynn Avants
Well, I see this discussion going exactly the way it previously was 6 months ago when we ended up in agreement of the situation. These are still interesting arguements, but still re-hash. IIRC, I believe Charles and I (at a minimum) are still following the same line of thought. It might make it

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Chad Carr
On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:16:10 +0100 Jaime Nebrera Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have been following the discussion about the need for a graphical system to configure LEAF systems. As it has been already commented, one of the daunting tasks is to be able to work through

Re: [leaf-devel] [config] Webconfig wish list

2003-02-01 Thread Lynn Avants
On Saturday 01 February 2003 02:19 pm, you wrote: And thank for your replies. Basically it'd be nice to gui some tasks, ok I get the desire. Weblet has proven that it can produce a screenful of useful info, gathered from several commands and organized well. But it's not secure. All

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Matt Schalit
Jaime Nebrera Herrera wrote: ... but in such case you would need to add some editor capable of uncompressing on the fly JEdit --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See!

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Michael D. Schleif
Lynn Avants wrote: snip / I see either this concept can be embraced or ridiculed, but if you don't see it as necessary in the future you plainly haven't followed the desires on list for the last year or two. Packetfilter, apkg (Oxygen), LINCE, Mosquito, and individual systems are proof

Re: [leaf-devel] [config] Webconfig wish list

2003-02-01 Thread Matt Schalit
Lynn Avants wrote: But it's not secure. All remote admin should be encrypted. Can't you tunnel http through SSH, zebedee, stunnel, whatever ? Ok. You're right, you can tunnel through ssh easily enough. Secondly, we need standards first, for files and manifests. Absolutely!

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Matt Schalit
Chad Carr wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:16:10 +0100 1) a centralized configuration database and api for adding and removing system configuration parameters, When using a centralized config-db (a good idea), how do we deal with a new release of a program, let's say ntpdate? a. Do we

Re: [leaf-devel] Template system [was Webconfiguration]

2003-02-01 Thread Chad Carr
On Sat, 01 Feb 2003 14:46:10 -0800 Matt Schalit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chad Carr wrote: On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:16:10 +0100 1) a centralized configuration database and api for adding and removing system configuration parameters, When using a centralized config-db (a good