Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-06 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 06:19:01PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: Too many package formats use .tgz as their name. No, there is only one: a file that has been created by tar and compressed by gzip. Everything else is a file. Slackware, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD all distribute their packages

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 02:06:00AM -0400, George Metz scribbled: One of these days, I WILL learn shell scripting and C... Aw, who'm I kidding? =) Shell scripting is easy. It all makes sense. You won't learn it, of course, until you have some need to fill, though. I've learned a lot about

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 07:51:15AM -0700, Mike Noyes scribbled: Rick George, I plan on purchasing these two books, unless someone has a better idea. I have KR's C book, but haven't read it yet. That's supposed to be _the_ book to read. :) Beginning Linux Programming ISBN: 1861002971 C

Re: [Leaf-devel] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 10:21:03AM -0700, Kenneth Hadley scribbled: amusing product http://www.boat.be/ read a little about FireWare and you'll understand why I say amusing, though I do like 1U rackmounts ;-) Does anyone know off hand how many LRP based consumer devices exist? Is it time

Re: [Leaf-devel] Languages

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 03:58:05PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: The thing I always find fascinating is the textbooks show you how to add 5 and 6, but not how to scan a configuration file; or they show you how to do a bubble sort, but not how to react to user input. It seems as if general

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF Distribution

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:45:59PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: As for a LEAF distribution, I think I would actually shy away from an actual "LEAF" image; the concept is good but the literal implementation would be bad. Put another way, I wouldn't have any problem with "Maple LRP"

Re: [Leaf-devel] Packaging

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Thu, Apr 05, 2001 at 04:51:59PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: I seem to be somewhat alone in that I *LIKE* the *.lrp packaging; there is only one change I would make: rename the files from *.lrp to *.tgz. This adds the ability to know what the file format is, and allows Windows hosts

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: [LRP] Interesting LRP consumer device....

2001-04-05 Thread thc
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:04:38AM +0200, Robert Sprockeels scribbled: http://www.boat.be/ Thanks for plugging my product ;-) BTW, it's listed in lrp.c0wz.com now. -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-04 Thread thc
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 09:56:20PM -0700, Scott C. Best scribbled: Errr... I believe that ip_masq_ftp is used to make *active* FTP work, on the *client* side. My understanding is that Active FTP is tricky on client-side NAT'ing-firewalls and passive FTP is tricky on

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-04 Thread thc
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:00:29AM -0400, George Metz scribbled: The default module does, yes. However, someone of great ingenuity out there came up with an absolutely brilliant patch that allows a masq'd FTP server to do passive FTP without (much of) a hitch. It's not a widely distributed

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-04 Thread thc
Quoting an earlier message: Huh? You know, the patch that makes passive ftp servers work behind masquerading firewalls? ftp://seawall.sourceforge.net/pub/Seawall/patches/ I knew the patch existed, but I never really looked for it; the other day, somebdoy posted the above URL to the LRP

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-04 Thread thc
On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:03:01AM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: Mike Noyes wrote: How about naming it: Oxygen_Mar.2001_iso_Oxygen-LRP-CD.bin Yipes! How about what I always use: oxygen.iso :-) Situations like this call for some data to live in the filename. How about either

Re: [Leaf-devel] Progeny Debian

2001-04-03 Thread thc
On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 03:44:41PM -0700, Steven Peck scribbled: speaking of next, how's the openssh going Rick? John Stoffel is working with me on making it smaller. I have it compiled so that it would work on LRP, but it's a bit large. What we're trying to do is compile libssl dynamic and

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mirrors and upcoming Oxygen CDROM

2001-04-03 Thread thc
On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:00:49PM -0500, David Douthitt scribbled: * Kernel patches: Openwall, bridgefw, VPN+Masq... How about the ip_masq_ftp.o server patch? -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Help

Re: [Leaf-devel] German LRP Faq

2001-04-03 Thread thc
It's prolly not ready, but I'm doing lots of little c0wz updates, so I added it...and I put it where "Materhorn FAQ" used to be. ;) Er, if you weren't ready for everybody to look at it..sorry. On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 05:21:17PM -0700, Steven Peck scribbled: O., :) I accidently

Re: [Leaf-devel] German LRP Faq

2001-04-02 Thread thc
You (or anyone else) are always welcome to anything I've written. Use whatever you want. On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:33:42PM +0200, Eric Wolzak scribbled: Hello all, especially Mike, charles,Ray, Steven, Jack, Rick, and all others that provided Documentation to this Project on the Leaf site.

Re: [Leaf-devel] new firewall package

2001-04-01 Thread thc
On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 08:19:37PM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled: ftp://ftp.echogent.com/EchoWall/echowall.lrp guys' preliminary feedback, I'll decide whether to unleash it upon the main LRP list. Feedback welcome, of course, Thanks! I went and added it to lrp.c0wz.com before I

Re: [Leaf-devel] Nifty CD Idea

2001-03-30 Thread thc
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 06:49:48AM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: This wouldn't be the "proconfig" patch would it? With this patch, you can type "cat /proc/config" and it will give you a list of features set, in the form of a Config file for the running kernel. Fairly neat, if not much

Re: [Leaf-devel] Functional Admin -kudos

2001-03-30 Thread thc
Here here!! I second all of that. Mike, you are a major driving force that most projects don't have, and that we're _very_ lucky to have. I'm good for another reference letter. On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:26:20AM -0800, Steven Peck scribbled: I have to go with David here and I think it

[Leaf-devel] Possible lrp.c0wz.com and/or lrp.steinkuehler.net downtime this weekend

2001-03-30 Thread thc
some downtime. Here's some mirrors you can use: lrp.c0wz.com: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/devel/thc/ -- should be completely up-to-date (I made a few minor changes today) and fast http://c0wz.slaget.net http://c0wz.steinkuehler.net [if Charles's server is up :)] lrp.steinkuehler.net

Re: [Leaf-devel] Nifty CD Idea

2001-03-30 Thread thc
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 09:03:15PM -0500, George Metz scribbled: It would appear from discussion here and a search that proconfig was folded into 2.4; in any case, the most recent versions at the web site are: I couldn't find it in menuconfig, nor by a recursive, case insensitive

Re: [Leaf-devel] Mailing list archive

2001-03-29 Thread thc
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:32AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Also, this message was posted to leaf-user. Does anyone have an answer? http://www.mail-archive.com\leaf-user%40lists.sourceforge.net/msg1.html You used the wrong slash in that URL; correct URL is

Re: [Leaf-devel] IMPORTANT SourceForge site update

2001-03-28 Thread thc
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 12:24:02PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: Bummer...I now have to change my rsync script again. Just change your script to contain something like this: ---snip--- LEAF=/home/groups/l/le/leaf ---snip--- ...then, whenever it changes, you can just change one

Re: [OT] RE: [Leaf-devel] bitwar (was New release of Oxygen (March 2001))

2001-03-28 Thread thc
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 01:47:47PM -0500, George Metz scribbled: BYOLinux is another site that actually is designed for absolute green folks, but overall it provides better descriptions of what it is you're doing. Check it out at http://www.byolinux.org/ if you want. Decisions,

Re: [Leaf-devel] initrd and linuxrc-always patches updated to Linux 2.2.19

2001-03-27 Thread thc
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 11:19:48AM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: What's the best way to release these? I talked once of getting the patches together; perhaps we should start? I compiled these patches for 2.2.17, 2.2.18, and 2.2.19. The patches are different for 2.2.19? I successfully

Re: [Leaf-devel] initrd and linuxrc-always patches updated to Linux 2.2.19

2001-03-27 Thread thc
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:05:45PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: Charles Steinkuehler wrote: I've got the initrd linuxrc-always patches for the 2.4 kernel: http://lrp.steinkuehler.net/files/kernels/2.4.0-test11/ Anyone going to compile 2.4.2-ac26 or whatever other is out there now?

Re: [Leaf-devel] initrd and linuxrc-always patches updated to Linux 2.2.19

2001-03-27 Thread thc
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:04:23PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: The patches are different for 2.2.19? I successfully used the 2.2.16 patches on 2.2.19, no problems at all. Spoil everything now Hey, everybody's been spoiling my own work, include YOU, with your data CD... ;-) They

Re: [Leaf-devel] initrd and linuxrc-always patches updated to Linux2.2.19

2001-03-27 Thread thc
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:34:24PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: Really? I thought that there was an issue with it in 2.4.2 only... You're probably right. Rick, watch out! Gack! Argh!@ I tried to install a 2.4.2 kernel this morning...lilo told me it worked, but after a reboot, I wasn't

Re: [Leaf-devel] Kernel support (!) for configuring ethernet via DHCP/BOOTP/RARP

2001-03-27 Thread thc
On Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 03:00:39PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: I saw in 2.2.19 that there is now support to configure the kernel with DHCP/BOOTP/RARP to load over a network; anyone know anything of this? That's not new to 2.2.19. That's what I know of it. :-) -- rick -- A mind is like a

No Subject

2001-03-26 Thread thc
Smalltalk and Perl collide nicely :-) I've stopped using Perl for most things. A bit of Ruby/Python trivia: Ruby users outnumber Python users in Japan, Ruby's originating country. Curious: isn't Python originating from Italy? You get a little security by obscurity maybe (and we know

Re: [Leaf-devel] Different topic....

2001-03-26 Thread thc
I thought IDS was the first ISP selling internet access to the general public. Maybe it was just the first in Rhode Island.. On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 03:14:51PM -0800, Mark Seiden scribbled: of course, this depends how you define ISP. world.std.com was first, as i remember. panix was pretty

No Subject

2001-03-26 Thread thc
TOTALLY broken, this shouldn't be relevant. If you specify the IP address only, it will supply netmask and broadcast/network addresses based on a classful setup - that's pretty much what everything defaults to because there HAS to be a default. If you specify the netmask and the IP address, it

Re: [Leaf-devel] WebSite links

2001-03-23 Thread thc
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 10:16:33AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Everyone, I added some links to our web site. Please review them. Thanks. Do the links have to look like this: http://leaf.sourceforge.net/links.php?op=visitlid=6 instead of this: http://embedded-linux.org/ ?? It makes things

Re: [Leaf-devel] WebSite links

2001-03-23 Thread thc
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 11:01:01AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: It makes things difficult for people who want to do anything other than go there right away. Does phpwebsite not allow us to put real links in? Rick, I don't think so. I used the web admin interface to add the links. I think

Re: [Leaf-devel] New Disk images / Distributions

2001-03-23 Thread thc
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 03:19:33PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: Of course, with a name like "EigerStein" perhaps you'd be better with beer names.. nah Heinestein Heinekuehler Imagine the missspellings... Sam Adamstein Basstein Heheh... Seriously, though; just because it isn't

Re: [Leaf-devel] New Disk images / Distributions

2001-03-23 Thread thc
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 01:42:00PM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Charles, My two cents. MML - Mountain Maple LEAF Nice! I like it. Mountain Maple Leaf http://wcd.saultc.on.ca:8900/dendro/webpages/mmtnleaf.html -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ -- rick -- A

Re: [Leaf-devel] WebSite links

2001-03-23 Thread thc
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 11:38:42AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Rick, How about including the url just above the "Added On:" text. Take a look at the Embedded Linux Consortium link for an example. Let me know if that is what you're looking for. I don't like it as much as my idea, but it is

Re: [Leaf-devel] Something to watch?

2001-03-23 Thread thc
On Fri, Mar 23, 2001 at 04:49:50PM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler scribbled: Looks like IBM will be giving away free linux access (based on their S/390 mainframes, which can run thousands of independant virtual linux boxes): http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/os/linux/freeaccess.html

Re: [Leaf-devel] Website traffic

2001-03-22 Thread thc
On Thu, Mar 22, 2001 at 06:41:18PM +0100, Pim van Riezen scribbled: What amazes me, on both the leaf and my stats, is that so very few people actually access the site with lynx. You'd expect that the h4xx0r-value of running an embedded router/firewall is something which would attract all the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Status I'm back online

2001-03-21 Thread thc
On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 11:52:27AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler scribbled: On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 11:52:27AM -0600, Charles Steinkuehler scribbled: - Cardbus WaveLAN suport optional, see below Gack! You're going to take away all my glory! ;) j/k. I'm having trouble with mine, and have not been

Re: [Leaf-devel] Poll: Ladybug Architecture

2001-03-13 Thread thc
One vote for IBMHelpingLinuxWebsite..G On Tue, Mar 13, 2001 at 12:41:00AM -0800, Mike Sensney scribbled: At 07:26 PM 03/12/2001 -0500, George Metz wrote: Hopefully, the way Linus is going about things for 2.4.x, the kernel will be a lot stabler a lot sooner. I can honestly say that I

Re: [Leaf-devel] two port redirection questions

2001-03-09 Thread thc
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:04:11AM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled: Heyaz. First, anyone seen/used this? http://freshmeat.net/projects/nportredird From the blurb, it *looks* like an ipportfw command with a -s switch. Cool. :) That's cool, but what it really needs is

Re: [LRP] [Fwd: [Leaf-devel] Linux based Access Point]

2001-03-09 Thread thc
On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:29:18PM -0500, Unger, Larry G scribbled: Take a look at ... http://www.wi-fi.com/downloads/IEEE_80211_Primer.pdf ... That is helpful and explains another feature of an AP that differentiates it from a plain ethernet-to-wireless bridge: In most instances, the BSS

Re: [Leaf-devel] FTP and Firewalls rant

2001-03-09 Thread thc
Hmm...a little nicer than http://lrp.c0wz.com/dox/graphics/ftp.pdf although much less compact. :) On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:03:15AM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled: Heyaz. I've posted a PDF discussing the FTP protocol and how it works/doesn't work with firewalls to my website:

[Leaf-devel] Slink r5 ISOs available

2001-02-27 Thread thc
http://www.c0wz.com/iso contains Debian slink r5 ISO files, and also those files mounted so you can access their contents. For bandwidth-challenged LEAF developers, CDs will be burned and snail-mailed on request. However, such people can probably still get the ISOs quicker than that by using a

Re: [Leaf-devel] Secure Logging

2001-02-21 Thread thc
On Wed, Feb 21, 2001 at 02:11:41AM -0500, George Metz scribbled: Perhaps not so much of a joke as all that. Why not set the system to log to Serial Console? This would be extremely secure, assuming local access is required for access to the logserver, or "moderately" secure with a sysadmin

Re: [Leaf-devel] CDROM booting

2001-02-16 Thread thc
Put the kernel, syslinux, syslinux.cfg, [and root.lrp?] on the disk image, put the rest of the stuff on the ISO CD image, and put boot=/dev/hda or whatever the CD dev is. Basically, don't bother accessing the floppy image. On Fri, Feb 16, 2001 at 08:08:50AM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled:

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF certification

2001-02-05 Thread thc
On Sat, Feb 03, 2001 at 09:45:27PM -0800, Mike Sensney scribbled: BTW, we can always create our own professional association with its own firewall certification criteria. How about the YAFCA? (Yet Another Firewall Certifying Association) bwahahahahah! I didn't want to be the crazy fool who

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF certification

2001-02-03 Thread thc
On Fri, Feb 02, 2001 at 04:22:02PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: How about this: Meets ICSA guidelines.* fineprint* == Not ICSA certified/fineprint ICSA might get upset - but in any case, my That's how I figure it anyway. :) understanding is that the Linux 2.2 kernels would

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF certification

2001-02-02 Thread thc
On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 03:23:42PM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled: the certification process. It is expensive: $25k for non-FWPD consortium members and $15k for members. That's per product This leaves me wondering...is it worth it? To reach No way. a specific target user for LEAF,

Re: [Leaf-devel] Character Studies (of Users)

2001-01-31 Thread thc
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 11:48:17AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: so.. what I say is why not build several LEAF images, for the most common targets (SOHO etc..), and have them approved by some internet security authority (don't know if such auth. exist), then we make a page just for this

Re: [Leaf-devel] Shell Scripts for LRP development

2001-01-31 Thread thc
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 01:26:53AM -0500, George Metz scribbled: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, David Douthitt wrote: I've been creating shell scripts for my development. I wonder if anyone else would be interested? They are (so far): mkkernel - create a kernel tarball from the linux

Re: [Leaf-devel] Character Studies (of Users)

2001-01-31 Thread thc
Right, I was just wondering...we're all coming up with these scenarios, and what could fill the need, but... Why do we do it? Onee reason, imo, would be for the experience of building something that the general consumer can use. There's a lot to learn from it. On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at

Re: [Leaf-devel] Character Studies (of Users)

2001-01-31 Thread thc
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 10:30:18AM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: On 31 Jan 2001, at 15:10, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, I was just wondering...we're all coming up with these scenarios, and what could fill the need, but... Why do we do it? The answer is built into the phrase

Re: [Leaf-devel] Character Studies (of Users)

2001-01-31 Thread thc
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 04:52:04PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: Anybody seen this? What do you think of it? http://www.tarball.net/cish/ FYI: It purports to allow you to control your Linux router via a shell which is very much like the Cisco IOS. I believe that would

Re: [Leaf-devel] cish (Cisco IOS shell for Linux)

2001-01-31 Thread thc
On Wed, Jan 31, 2001 at 09:06:57AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: The man page header says "Linux Router Project" (!) ... BTW, nice pickup Rick. Eh? David said that, not me. -- Mike Noyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://leaf.sourceforge.net/ -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works

Re: [Leaf-devel] BIND Exploit

2001-01-30 Thread thc
On Tue, Jan 30, 2001 at 05:38:13AM -0500, George Metz scribbled: In case you haven't had a chance to read Slashdot today, there's a new huge, gaping, drive-a-Mack-Truck-up-and-parallel-park-it sized security hole in BIND v8.2.2 and v4.9.7 and earlier. This one's a biggie, so if you're running

Re: [Leaf-devel] Long description of our project (1st draft)

2001-01-29 Thread thc
On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 01:57:33PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: As you may notice, these documents are NOT "distribution- neutral" but are specific towards LRP-derivatives. I don't know whether this is a bad thing or not, but this sort of states what I always thought LEAF was maybe

Re: [Leaf-devel] PCMCIA mailing list

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 07:57:51PM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Rick, Ok, if there are no objections I'll create the list tomorrow. Thankx. That's fine, I'll admin it. Do you want the list to act the same way this one does? That would be fine...this one seems to have good enough

Re: [Leaf-devel] Submit LEAF site to web directories?

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:15:45AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: I think networking rather than firewall -- even though many people use it for a home firewall, the LEAF developer mindset seems to be aiming for enterprise routing. your right, but home firewalls is the prime target

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Eigerstein link

2001-01-26 Thread thc
of access_log and feeds it to webalizer. Cron does work. leaf.sourceforge.net/thc/ automatically mirrors lrp.c0wz.com every 6 hours. Get SF's apache to recognize index.htm, not just index.html Any reason why not to call it index.html? Charles Steinkuehler http://lrp.steinkuehler.net http

Re: [Leaf-devel] Submit LEAF site to web directories?

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 07:10:04AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Pedro, Ok, I'm sorry I didn't phrase that question better. You're leaning towards multiple listings, correct? That makes two of us. Not only might one user look under 'firewalls' because that's the only keyword he knows, where a

Re: [Leaf-devel] I'm dangerous now...

2001-01-26 Thread thc
FWIW, I'm using 2.4.0test12 with Slackware 7.0... :) On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 07:50:23AM -0800, Jack Coates scribbled: can't find a changelog for it, is there any backporting of QoS features? If so I'm interested -- USB and PCMCIA changes would also get attention, though I don't need them.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Submit LEAF site to web directories?

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:00:28AM -0800, Jack Coates scribbled: Good point -- I personally never try to browse my way to a goal, but rather use the search engine. Don't know if that's common or not, but if it's common then we can stick the listing anywhere... True, but I don't use

Re: [Leaf-devel] SF Eigerstein link

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 05:37:09PM +0100, Eric Wolzak scribbled: I tested it on my page, but i takes every time 1 second after each character i typed to see it appear :( (between US and Europa ^^ I thought it took some 10

Re: [Leaf-devel] Project Description

2001-01-26 Thread thc
Here I go, answering a question asked to somebody else again.. :) On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:17:26AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Current project description: ~ An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in small ~ office, home office, and home automation environments. Although

Re: [Leaf-devel] Submit LEAF site to web directories?

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 08:42:48AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Here is a quick list I came up with. I'm sure I missed some keywords. leaf router internet gateway VPN gateway WAN appliance firewall embedded application network appliance SOHO firewall Each of those should be seperate

Re: [Leaf-devel] Project Description

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 09:08:06AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Proposed project description change: An easy to use embedded Linux network appliance for use in small office, home office, and home automation environments. Most commonly used as a gateway/router/firewall for Internet leaf

Re: [Leaf-devel] Project Description

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 11:40:09AM -0800, Jack Coates scribbled: maybe -- Of course, designs and efforts have been on PCs and dinky doohickeys like PC104, so the bus issues will keep LEAF out of the network core until it's ported to SPARC or DEC or something. Hmm...I have a DECstation 5000

Re: [Leaf-devel] Bandwidth Manager

2001-01-26 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 26, 2001 at 01:46:57PM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled: Mike, Rick: I think it'd be *huge* to add some traffic shaping to LEAF, with the caveat that we provide a setup interface to it as well, in the same manner that we provide one for ipchains. That is, we pick a

[Leaf-devel] PCMCIA mailing list

2001-01-25 Thread thc
Would I be stepping on anybody's toes if I created [EMAIL PROTECTED] ? I'd like to start a LEAF / LRP PCMCIA Developement list, as I or Morgan Reed seem to be about to take charge of said topic. -- rick -- A mind is like a parachute... it only works when it's open. ICQ# 1590117

Re: [Leaf-devel] PCMCIA mailing list

2001-01-25 Thread thc
On Thu, Jan 25, 2001 at 07:25:01PM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Rick, I think you can use the leaf-devel list for that, but if you really think there is going to be enough traffic to justify it, I'll add it. Just remember that we can't delete mailing lists once they are created. Well,

Re: [Leaf-devel] linux-router list down?

2001-01-24 Thread thc
On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 01:42:50PM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Everyone, It looks like the linux-router list is down. If you need to discuss "user" topics the leaf-user list is available. Has Dave C. been notified that something is wrong with the linux-router list? From [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Leaf-devel] LEAF SourceForge site

2001-01-24 Thread thc
On Fri, Jan 19, 2001 at 10:06:50AM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: I just wanted to say - having seen several SourceForge sites, I would say that the LEAF page is one of the few well documented pages, with LOTS of documentation. Let's give everyone a pat on the back, especially the

Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers Images

2001-01-23 Thread thc
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 09:26:43AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Everyone, It looks like there is a need for pcmcia and wireless driver support. Has anyone started on this? Morgan Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] has started on PCMCIA with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just as soon

Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers Images

2001-01-23 Thread thc
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:07:44AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Morgan Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] has started on PCMCIA with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. Rick, Please ask him to join us. I tried a couple of

Re: [Leaf-devel] Drivers Images

2001-01-23 Thread thc
On Tue, Jan 23, 2001 at 10:23:10AM -0800, Scott C. Best scribbled: Rick: Morgan Reed [EMAIL PROTECTED] has started on PCMCIA with some success. I'm planning to work with him on it just as soon as I can get my grubby hands on a working laptop. Anybody have one they want to donate? ;)

Re: [Leaf-devel] rinetd - a TCP port redirector

2001-01-22 Thread thc
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 02:59:08PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: I don't get it, what makes rinetd different from 'ipportfw/ipautofw' or 'ipmasqdm portfw/autofw'??? I could be entirely wrong...but... Rinetd is actually a proxy; portfw/autofw are more similar to routing protocols.

Re: [Leaf-devel] rinetd - a TCP port redirector

2001-01-22 Thread thc
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 03:53:48PM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled: so it means that it can be used to manage some sort of authentication, and decide to proxy or not, based on several other properties than those in tcp/ip? No, I think rinetd is a 'dumb' proxy, that is, it can't do anything

Re: [Leaf-devel] Loading packages from a mounted volume

2001-01-22 Thread thc
On Mon, Jan 22, 2001 at 04:15:11PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: Actually, modules.lrp should prolly be loaded sooner rather than later; then you're looking pretty much at a base LRP system loaded early followed by secondary packages loaded later. I'm not sure what you meant by

Re: [Leaf-devel] Best License for LEAF Projects

2001-01-15 Thread thc
On Mon, Jan 15, 2001 at 03:00:17PM -0600, David Douthitt scribbled: What was the original license of LRP? Presumably, not GNU since there is not a commercial distribution (Coyote) or is it? LRP is GPL. Coyote is a windows configuration program distributed in binary format for money;

Re: [Leaf-devel] Home Page Development

2001-01-14 Thread thc
On Wed, Jan 10, 2001 at 12:01:47PM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Everyone, It looks like something needs to be done. Take a look at the awful looking results here: http://leaf.sourceforge.net I can scale the image to the proper width so it doesn't get squashed (note: the image will

Re: [Leaf-devel] Home Page Development

2001-01-11 Thread thc
On Thu, Jan 11, 2001 at 08:54:16AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: At 10:50 AM 1/11/01 -0600, David Douthitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike, when are you going to change the title? ;-) Old subject: Vote on web logo entries Current subject: Home Page Development I think he meant the title of

Re: [Leaf-devel] The 2.4.0 kernel is officially released

2001-01-05 Thread thc
And to think, I just upgraded to 2.4.0test12 a week ago. [I know, off topic; this is really a test message, if you're reading this, my struggle with my email setup may indeed be over.] On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 06:06:25AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: At 07:37 PM 1/4/01 -0800, Mike Noyes [EMAIL

Re: [Leaf-devel] Fwd: debian slink available via ftp

2001-01-05 Thread thc
BTW, I have slink r4 .iso files if anybody wants them. If somebody wants to make some good bootable .isos of r5, I'll host 'em. On Fri, Jan 05, 2001 at 09:33:30AM -0800, Mike Noyes scribbled: Everyone, Paul Wade at Greenbush Technologies has kindly made Debian Slink 2.1r5 available to us.