At 22:36 29-11-2000 +0100, you wrote:
>Hello Pedro, Mike
> > I like the idea about separation data and style, but why XML? why use xml
> > when the final client (browser) will see html, and besides, editing a
> how-to
> > in xml?!?! we'd had to have either a standart for ourselves and an editor,
Hello Pedro, Mike
> I like the idea about separation data and style, but why XML? why use xml
> when the final client (browser) will see html, and besides, editing a how-to
> in xml?!?! we'd had to have either a standart for ourselves and an editor,
> or edit the text trought the xml tags.
>
>
At 08:53 PM 11/29/00 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eric Wolzak) wrote:
>Hello, i agree with the group that said, the pages should be as
>simple to load as possible. With a lot of advanced features, you
>have completely different views with a IE or Netscape or Opera
>I for example do use lynx only occa
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2000 7:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Leaf-devel] Home Page entry
>
>
> Hello, i agree with the group that said, the pages should be as
>
Hello, i agree with the group that said, the pages should be as
simple to load as possible. With a lot of advanced features, you
have completely different views with a IE or Netscape or Opera
I for example do use lynx only occasional but stylesheet, javascript
and so on are always switched off.
On 29 Nov 2000, at 3:05, Pedro Barreto wrote:
> but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a while??
Used it last week
> I don't know about you but I [haven't used] lynx for more than 2 years,
> there is always a better browser next pc ;)
As I said, I used Lynx just last week.
At 03:32 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>snip
> > Ok, I thought this is why we were submitting multiple home
> > pages. Different people have different ideas on page design. I
> > thought we were going to leave it up to the leaf community to decide
> > which one was be
At 03:27 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>css is some sort of extention to html. html tags are somehow limited, so
>what you do is define a css style and aplly it to the html tag, since css
>has plenty properties to modify html tags that arent present on the html
>ta
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was going to help you with your site, but rick started doing one! now I
> can't help both! :)
I'm about satisfied with mine as a style demonstration. I might
try a couple other ideas I had, but I won't need much help (unless
you want to do that background... :-)
> >
> At 06:47 AM 11/29/00 -0800, Mike Noyes
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >At 02:16 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>for reference check my site, http://pxb.ods.org, it's in
> Portuguese, but
> >>comment the style(aside for frames!), if it is down, it's
> the stupi
snip
> Ok, I thought this is why we were submitting multiple home
> pages. Different
> people have different ideas on page design. I thought we were
> going to
> leave it up to the leaf community to decide which one was best.
I was going to help you with your site, but rick started doing one!
At 06:47 AM 11/29/00 -0800, Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At 02:16 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>for reference check my site, http://pxb.ods.org, it's in Portuguese, but
>>comment the style(aside for frames!), if it is down, it's the stupid IIS
>>that can
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > no, please! don't say that! my only consern was not 'visual
> design', but
> > funcional design, I'll try to explain: sometimes, when you
> design a page,
> > tables don't align with each other, paragraphs are not
> indented, etc.. and
> > thats when css has to be
At 02:16 PM 11/29/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>for reference check my site, http://pxb.ods.org, it's in Portuguese, but
>comment the style(aside for frames!), if it is down, it's the stupid IIS
>that can't serve for more than 1 day! I burned my redhat server's power
>supp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> no, please! don't say that! my only consern was not 'visual design', but
> funcional design, I'll try to explain: sometimes, when you design a page,
> tables don't align with each other, paragraphs are not indented, etc.. and
> thats when css has to be used. thats the ki
At 08:39 AM 11/29/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Pedro Barreto wrote:
> > great! the simpler the better, that's what I was talking about.
> >
> > but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a while?? I
> > don't know about you but I don't use lynx for more than 2 year
> From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Pedro Barreto wrote:
> > great! the simpler the better, that's what I was talking about.
> >
> > but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a
> while?? I don't
> > know about you but I don't use lynx for more than 2 years,
> there is
Pedro Barreto wrote:
> great! the simpler the better, that's what I was talking about.
>
> but... come on... do you really use lynx that once in a while?? I don't
> know about you but I don't use lynx for more than 2 years, there is always
> a better browser next pc ;)
I had used lynx about 35 m
At 10:35 28-11-2000 -0600, you wrote:
>On 24 Nov 2000, at 21:56, Pedro Barreto wrote:
>
> > no really, I was talking about tables, div's, span's, css, a
> > single css file, etc..
>
>Can we keep the web page Lynx-friendly? There are many who depend on
>programs like Lynx (especially the blind).
At 11:34 AM 11/28/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>David Douthitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > no really, I was talking about tables, div's, span's, css, a
> > > single css file, etc..
> >
> > Can we keep the web page Lynx-friendly? There are many who depend on
> > programs
David Douthitt wrote:
> > no really, I was talking about tables, div's, span's, css, a
> > single css file, etc..
>
> Can we keep the web page Lynx-friendly? There are many who depend on
> programs like Lynx (especially the blind). Lynx is also present in
> almost every Linux installation - and
On 24 Nov 2000, at 21:56, Pedro Barreto wrote:
> no really, I was talking about tables, div's, span's, css, a
> single css file, etc..
Can we keep the web page Lynx-friendly? There are many who depend on
programs like Lynx (especially the blind). Lynx is also present in
almost every Linux i
At 06:12 PM 11/27/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > I was talking about white space in the html code. Not the
> > page itself. I
> > > still like my entry, but the code needs to be cleaned up (e.g. add
> > > comm
Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Mike Noyes wrote:
> > I was talking about white space in the html code. Not the
> page itself. I
> > still like my entry, but the code needs to be cleaned up (e.g. add
> > comments, fix indents etc.).
>
> Doh!
>
> Hell, I can't say as I've ever seen whi
Mike Noyes wrote:
> I was talking about white space in the html code. Not the page itself. I
> still like my entry, but the code needs to be cleaned up (e.g. add
> comments, fix indents etc.).
Doh!
Hell, I can't say as I've ever seen whitespace so excessive that it
bothered me, in HTML code...
At 09:12 AM 11/27/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Noyes wrote:
> > White space is good. I'll use your suggestions to clean my entry up.
>
>White space is good, like everything else, in moderation and
>used correctly. In the example Pedro showed us, I believe that
>whitespac
Mike Noyes wrote:
> White space is good. I'll use your suggestions to clean my entry up. I
White space is good, like everything else, in moderation and
used correctly. In the example Pedro showed us, I believe that
whitespace was used incorrectly, probably because the were too
lazy to make it wor
Pedro Barreto wrote:
> do you like this site style?
> http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/p/doc.asp?id=29&iface=2
Only thing I don't like is how the text is pushed over to the side.
I know it's a result of having the links down the left; but I can
only imagine that this page must be difficult to read in
At 09:56 PM 11/24/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>At 12:08 24-11-2000 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
>>At 01:11 AM 11/24/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>do you like this site style?
>>>http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/p/doc.asp?id=29&iface=2
>>>
>>>that's the kind o
At 12:08 24-11-2000 -0800, Mike Noyes wrote:
>At 01:11 AM 11/24/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>do you like this site style?
>>http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/p/doc.asp?id=29&iface=2
>>
>>that's the kind of style I like in information related sites, simples,
>>easy to read and q
At 01:11 AM 11/24/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>do you like this site style?
>http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/p/doc.asp?id=29&iface=2
>
>that's the kind of style I like in information related sites, simples,
>easy to read and quick.
>
>also very easy to build and maintain :)
>I
do you like this site style?
http://www.wiretrip.net/rfp/p/doc.asp?id=29&iface=2
that's the kind of style I like in information related sites, simples, easy
to read and quick.
also very easy to build and maintain :)
I belive that we should adopt some kind of basic style, what ever it looks
li
At 10:13 AM 11/22/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Noyes wrote:
> > >but I have no idea what to put for content - the content
> > >you've got at your example site looks about perfect, and
> > >is formatted about perfectly too...so how do I compete?
> > >Change the background
Mike Noyes wrote:
> >but I have no idea what to put for content - the content
> >you've got at your example site looks about perfect, and
> >is formatted about perfectly too...so how do I compete?
> >Change the background color and logo that's used? ;)
>
> I thought we were looking at design conc
At 09:41 AM 11/22/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Noyes wrote:
> > At 08:45 AM 11/21/00 -0800, Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > We now have a very simple home page available. Should I separate
> > the logo submissions by author?
>
>You already did. Looks good.
Mike Noyes wrote:
> At 08:45 AM 11/21/00 -0800, Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We now have a very simple home page available. Should I separate the logo
> submissions by author?
You already did. Looks good.
I'm going to attempt to create at
http://www.c0wz.com/leaf/
but I have no idea
At 08:45 AM 11/21/00 -0800, Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>If there are no objections, I'll publish an "under construction" page with
>links to the logo and web page entries today.
We now have a very simple home page available. Should I separate the logo
submissions by author?
http://
> At 11:14 AM 11/21/00 -0500, Rick Onanian
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > submission ready for viewing? I really want to put
> something on our
> > > site, other than:
> > >
> > > We're Sorry but this Project hasn't yet uploaded their personal
> > > webpage yet. Please c
> At 11:14 AM 11/21/00 -0500, Rick Onanian
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > submission ready for viewing? I really want to put
> something on our
> > > site, other than:
> > >
> > > We're Sorry but this Project hasn't yet uploaded their personal
> > > webpage yet. Please c
At 11:14 AM 11/21/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Noyes wrote:
> > submission ready for viewing? I really want to put something on our
> > site, other than:
> >
> > We're Sorry but this Project hasn't yet uploaded their personal
> > webpage yet. Please check back soon for u
At 04:24 PM 11/21/00 +, you wrote:
> > From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:03 PM
> >
> > At 10:32 AM 11/21/00 -0500, Rick Onanian
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > > BTW, do you think it's time to call for a vote on the s
Mike Noyes wrote:
> Ok, that brings up the next question. Does anyone else have a home page
Mike, I think you're the only one doing anything on it, here. :-/
I can't even imagine a concept that I like better than what you've
done, which is why I've not bothered. I'm sure everybody else has
their
> From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:03 PM
>
> At 10:32 AM 11/21/00 -0500, Rick Onanian
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Mike Noyes wrote:
> > > BTW, do you think it's time to call for a vote on the submitted
> > > logos, or should we wait until after
At 10:32 AM 11/21/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Mike Noyes wrote:
> > BTW, do you think it's time to call for a vote on the submitted
> > logos, or should we wait until after the holiday?
>
>I think it should be part of the vote for the winning page; when
>we decide that, we c
> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Onanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Leaf-devel] Home Page entry
>
>
> Mike Noyes wrote:
> > BTW, do you think it's time to call for a
Mike Noyes wrote:
> BTW, do you think it's time to call for a vote on the submitted logos, or
> should we wait until after the holiday?
I think it should be part of the vote for the winning page; when
we decide that, we can either decide to keep whatever logo is in
use on the sample page, or vote
> -Original Message-
> From: Mike Noyes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 3:24 PM
>
>
> At 03:11 PM 11/21/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[snip]
> > > BTW, do you think it's time to call for a vote on the
> > > submitted logos, or
> > >
At 03:11 PM 11/21/00 +, Pedro Barreto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>[snip]
> > BTW, do you think it's time to call for a vote on the
> > submitted logos, or
> > should we wait until after the holiday?
>
>I haven't got the time to work on my other logos.
Pedro,
That's alright, I haven't had time
[snip]
> BTW, do you think it's time to call for a vote on the
> submitted logos, or
> should we wait until after the holiday?
I haven't got the time to work on my other logos.
what holiday are you speaking about?
pedro
>
> --
> Mike Noyes
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://sourceforge.net/projec
At 08:44 AM 11/21/00 -0500, Rick Onanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Boy, was I out of it yesterday...I hadn't the attention span to
>deal with a single message all day.
I hope you're feeling better today.
>Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Everyone,
> > I just updated my home page entr
Boy, was I out of it yesterday...I hadn't the attention span to
deal with a single message all day.
Mike Noyes wrote:
> Everyone,
> I just updated my home page entry to include individual developer pages.
> Is this idea any good?
I think so; but it would take a while to get used to before anyb
Everyone,
I just updated my home page entry to include individual developer pages. The
developers would create sub directories with their SF unix user name, and place their
personal pages there. They could also create personal directories in the anonymous ftp
area for releasing contributions th
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