Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-08-01 Thread Mike Noyes
On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 20:21, Dan Harkless wrote: > > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Further conversation on this topic is welcome, > > Personally I think we've talked it to death. Dan, Agreed. > > My recommendation remains: > > Announcements should be posted on our leaf-announ

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-08-01 Thread Dan Harkless
Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dan, > I've stated my position, and you've articulated yours. We agree the > announce list would be useful if it were utilized by our project > members. We disagree in some of the implementation details. However, > we've only had two comments by other peop

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-08-01 Thread Mike Noyes
Dan, I've stated my position, and you've articulated yours. We agree the announce list would be useful if it were utilized by our project members. We disagree in some of the implementation details. However, we've only had two comments by other people in this thread. This is hardly a consensus. Fur

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-08-01 Thread Dan Harkless
Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Dan, > My "semantics" are not weird. > > Google search results. > "Security Announcement" 25,600 > "Security Advisory" 117,000 I wouldn't dispute that "security advisory" is a more common phrase than "security announcement" (in fact I'm surprised it's on

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-08-01 Thread Homer Parker
First off, I'm nobody, so remember that when you get to the end ;) I can relate to his point... I wear many hats during the course of a day (I run a computer shop, own the local wireless ISP and administer another ISP among other things), and am subscribed to way more mailing lists than I

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-08-01 Thread Mike Noyes
On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 22:55, guitarlynn wrote: > In light of not catching the entire thread, I will give my 0.02. > Most users, especially in a commercial environment are > subscribed to the leaf-user and/or leaf-devel mailing lists. > The leaf-announce list is seldom used and has few subscribers.

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-07-31 Thread guitarlynn
I apologize for my absence, I have some personal business that has been taking up most of my time at the present. :-( In light of not catching the entire thread, I will give my 0.02. Most users, especially in a commercial environment are subscribed to the leaf-user and/or leaf-devel mailing lis

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-07-31 Thread Dan Harkless
Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "The person making the announcement needs to decide the target audience" > > _is_ more vague than "security advisories should be posted to > > leaf-announce". > > You keep returning to security advisories. I'm talking about > announcements. In my mind t

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-07-31 Thread Mike Noyes
Dan, We're not communicating well. I'll try to explain this to the best of my ability. On Wed, 2002-07-31 at 20:00, Dan Harkless wrote: > > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > That is not what I had in mind. The person making the announcement needs > > > > to decide the target audienc

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-07-31 Thread Dan Harkless
Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > That is not what I had in mind. The person making the announcement needs > > > to decide the target audience. Our mailing lists reach a different set > > > of users than our web site. > > > > I think you're making the criteria more vague and complicat

Re: [Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-07-31 Thread Mike Noyes
On Tue, 2002-07-30 at 21:46, Dan Harkless wrote: > Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I suspect what you had in mind when you said "and/or" was that important > > > stuff, including, but not limited to, security advisories, should go to > > > leaf-announce, and less important stuff, like

[Leaf-devel] Re: leaf-announce ML

2002-07-30 Thread Dan Harkless
Mike Noyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Right. And security advisories are a subcategory of "announcements", are > > they not? That's "announcements" as in "leaf-announce". > > Dan, > Security advisories are not a subset of announcements. They are in most people's minds. That's why I wan