On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message fd9f9d07-2a21-4f72-a10a-f7b91b7c1...@noao.edu, Rob Seaman writes:
On Sep 5, 2010, at 8:00 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
Oh! Other than astronomy - the one and only place we've looked
sufficiently well enough to know the answer.
So
Roger Stapleton wrote:
Perhaps there is nobody on this list who designs and builds sundials?
They are usually artsist/craftsman and NOT astronomers.
I had already mentioned the Bernhardt precision sundial on this list. Its
precision is such that one or more adjustments would likely be necessary
Some of us have designed/rebuilt sundials:
http://www.new-brunswick.net/new-brunswick/fredericton/page1.html
http://www.mail-archive.com/sund...@uni-koeln.de/msg09972.html.
There is a very knowledgeable sundial group, which includes a number
of scientists and others familiar with the
Ian Batten said:
The calendar-change legislation took care of that by moving the end
date of the tax year from the traditional quarter-day of March 25th
to April 6th.
March 25 is, of course, Lady Day.
More to the point, it was also New Year's Day in England until 31st
December 1751 (which
David Grellscheid said:
The calendar-change legislation took care of that by moving the end date
of the tax year from the traditional quarter-day of March 25th to April 6th.
Sadly, there was no Hansard yet to record the moment when the Lords
realised they would lose 12 days worth of rent
On Mon 2010-09-06T10:50:55 +0100, Tony Finch hath writ:
There is a lot of software that depends on the simple arithmetic
relationship between time_t and broken-down zulu time.
So another of the questions that has not been asked is a detailed
survey of such applications in the context of having
On Mon 2010-09-06T05:33:27 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ:
[regarding changes in the schedule of daylight/summer time]
2. In civilized parts of the world, we know about these days 5+ years
in advance.
Let's see, Australia prior to the 2000 Olympics, less than 1 year.
The 1918 change in
On Mon, September 6, 2010 15:28, Steve Allen wrote:
On Mon 2010-09-06T05:33:27 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ:
[regarding changes in the schedule of daylight/summer time]
Part of this could be explained as war is hell, and part as
what do you expect from colonies established by
In message 846fe1ddc827bb1b14a27a4a17b8865d.squir...@mail.batten.eu.org, Ian
Batten writes:
On Mon, September 6, 2010 15:28, Steve Allen wrote:
Whichever, I think the chances of it being done with five
years' notice are low: once passed, a government will want to reap the
political benefits
Nero Imhard n...@pipe.nl wrote:
I had already mentioned the Bernhardt precision sundial on this list. Its
precision is such that one or more adjustments would likely be necessary
during the lifetime of the sundial. So, given the sword of Damocles
hanging over UTC's head, I guess the smart
I wonder if there is not some perceived urgency for the ITU-R to act
on UTC because of the changes in technology. ITU-R covers broadcasts,
but most of the discussion in this mail refers to the internet.
That is covered by the ITU-T, not the ITU-R.
In response to the rapid evolution in computing
In message 20100906164911.ga27...@ucolick.org, Steve Allen writes:
Is it already the case that the de facto authority over the time scale
of the world should reside with the ITU-T rather than with the ITU-R?
So, Astronomers should Own Time, because they did it first, but
ITU-T should take time
On Mon, 6 Sep 2010, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
There was a lot of noise in EU context, and that resulted in one of the
technical requirements for EU membership being that countries do not
f**k with their summertime, and presumably timezones, with anything less
than 5 years notice.
Interesting.
On Mon 2010-09-06T17:11:11 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ:
So, Astronomers should Own Time, because they did it first, but
ITU-T should take time over from ITU-R because they are more recent ?
Rather because the ITU-T process is not as dysfunctional as the ITU-R.
Given that ITU-T is
In message 20100906171714.ga27...@ucolick.org, Steve Allen writes:
On Mon 2010-09-06T17:11:11 +, Poul-Henning Kamp hath writ:
As such it is long the case that time decisively belongs to
Dave Mills and the NTP crew.
We in the NTP crew would love to own it, but I can guarantee you
that leap
On 2010-09-06, at 19:28, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
We in the NTP crew would love to own it, but I can guarantee you
that leap seconds would not survive long if it were offered to us :-)
Except that the ntp crew is much more likely to obtain this goal by switching
to TAI instead of upsetting
Paul Sheer p...@2038bug.com wrote:
We can *never* go back once this bound grows.
Never say never: if I came to power as a dictator in some 3rd world
country, I would have absolutely no problem with issuing an edict to the
entire population to adjust their clocks by, say, 30.4851122 seconds at
a
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
So far I don't recall one single example having been proffered outside
astronomy ?
All other examples are *inside* astronomy. Literally.
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