On 2014-01-09 10:28 PM, Steve Allen wrote:
On Thu 2014-01-09T01:56:03 -0800, Brooks Harris hath writ:
In 2011 you posted to the list a link to the 2011 ITU-R CACE issued
Circular 539
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/leapsecs/2011-June/003058.html
Whats the current status of that? Still on
That's disconcerting.
Brooks,
Nice that the list has come back to life. Looking back on your original
question about UTC documentation, you never mentioned what your actual
application is. I think it would be helpful if you could state what your
problem or your goal is. There are a lot of
In message 20140110055749.b07c1406...@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net, Hal Mu
rray writes:
(from a day or two ago...)
Brooks Harris bro...@edlmax.com said:
So I ask your opinion(s) - Do you think there's a need for a document like
I've described? What standards body do you think would be
In message 20140110064412.gb20...@ucolick.org, Steve Allen writes:
I have asserted that POSIX does not want to know astronomy, does not
want to track geophysics, [...]
You are right about that.
that POSIX really wants to count atomic days
rather than mean solar days,
And wrong about that.
In message 80159b27-dfc6-431c-819f-99107a143...@noao.edu, Rob Seaman writes:
The metaphor for the day tag had my hopes up that this would be a metaphor
for the concept of day...no such luck. Not sure one should put much faith
in a religious metaphor from a site called antipope.org :-)
Charles
On Jan 10, 2014, at 9:03 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp p...@phk.freebsd.dk wrote:
Charles Stross is one of the most gifted and insightfull Science
Fiction writers of all time, ...
A good introduction to his is this short story about coffee:
In message 2a2480dc-a5d6-4027-8364-e17af4049...@noao.edu, Rob Seaman writes:
Not pertinent, however, to my point about religious metaphors
emanating from antipope.org. One might, for instance, be skeptical
of comments about ev= olution arising from a creationist web site,
however skillful the
On 2014-01-08 09:34 PM, Steve Allen wrote:
On Wed 2014-01-08T12:11:39 -0800, Brooks Harris hath writ:
Who, or what standards body, would have the (international)
authority to be taken seriously? I'm not sure about that, but since
the whole time-keeping mess was started out by astronomers I
Hi Brooks,
Welcome to the list!
On 08/01/14 01:45, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-01-07 03:40 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message 52cc8c26.5090...@edlmax.com, Brooks Harris writes:
I fully understand time zone specifications are fractured. My objective
is to determine what standards are
Hi Magnus,
On 2014-01-09 02:11 PM, Magnus Danielson wrote:
Hi Brooks,
Welcome to the list!
On 08/01/14 01:45, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-01-07 03:40 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message 52cc8c26.5090...@edlmax.com, Brooks Harris writes:
I fully understand time zone specifications are
On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Brooks Harris bro...@edlmax.com wrote:
Well, its clear the end game would take a long time to realize. It will
take serious patience on the part of folks who care.
We’re halfway there, then ;-) This conversation has been going on for a very
long time. Click
Hi Rob,
On 2014-01-09 04:18 PM, Rob Seaman wrote:
On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Brooks Harris bro...@edlmax.com wrote:
Well, its clear the end game would take a long time to realize. It will take
serious patience on the part of folks who care.
We’re halfway there, then ;-) This conversation
On Jan 9, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Hi Rob,
On 2014-01-09 04:18 PM, Rob Seaman wrote:
On Jan 9, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Brooks Harris bro...@edlmax.com wrote:
Well, its clear the end game would take a long time to realize. It will
take serious patience on the part of folks who
(from a day or two ago...)
Brooks Harris bro...@edlmax.com said:
So I ask your opinion(s) - Do you think there's a need for a document like
I've described? What standards body do you think would be receptive to the
idea? Or is it a fool's errand?
If I was going to try to fix that, I think
On Thu 2014-01-09T01:56:03 -0800, Brooks Harris hath writ:
In 2011 you posted to the list a link to the 2011 ITU-R CACE issued
Circular 539
http://six.pairlist.net/pipermail/leapsecs/2011-June/003058.html
Whats the current status of that? Still on hold?
That was one of the rare ITU-R
On 2014-01-07 08:23 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-01-07 06:34 PM, Rob Seaman wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure most on this list have
On Wed 2014-01-08T12:11:39 -0800, Brooks Harris hath writ:
Who, or what standards body, would have the (international)
authority to be taken seriously? I'm not sure about that, but since
the whole time-keeping mess was started out by astronomers I figure
this list is a good place to ask :-)
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Steve Allen s...@ucolick.org wrote:
The past decade of non-consensual non-decision discussion documents
from various bodies who have considered leap seconds and the failed
draft revisions for TF.460 leave me unconvinced that that there is
anyone with enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5wpm-gesOY is required viewing.
Warner
On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:22 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Hi,
First, this is my first posting to your list, forgive me if the subject has
been covered.
Second, I am a colleague Stephen Scott, also a new subscriber who posted
In message 52cc8c26.5090...@edlmax.com, Brooks Harris writes:
I fully understand time zone specifications are fractured. My objective
is to determine what standards are most relevant currently, that is,
what standards may be considered in force. And where none exist, to
state some sort of
On Tue 2014-01-07T15:22:14 -0800, Brooks Harris hath writ:
I fully understand time zone specifications are fractured. My
objective is to determine what standards are most relevant
currently, that is, what standards may be considered in force. And
where none exist, to state some sort of rules
Oh yes, I've see that. Noted from this list. To me its both hysterical
and deeply troubling. On the one hand, it bemuses me to see someone
else's programming pain so well presented, mirroring my own, and, on the
other, oh isn't there please something we could do about it?
On 2014-01-07 03:40
On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Oh yes, I've see that. Noted from this list. To me its both hysterical and
deeply troubling. On the one hand, it bemuses me to see someone else's
programming pain so well presented, mirroring my own, and, on the other, oh
isn't there please
On Tue 2014-01-07T15:56:46 -0800, Brooks Harris hath writ:
own, and, on the other, oh isn't there please something we could do
about it?
Nations, provinces, cities, and sub-populations within cities are
sovereign and subject to their politicians and bureaucrats.
This is not a technical problem.
On 2014-01-07 03:40 PM, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote:
In message 52cc8c26.5090...@edlmax.com, Brooks Harris writes:
I fully understand time zone specifications are fractured. My objective
is to determine what standards are most relevant currently, that is,
what standards may be considered in
On 2014-01-07 03:58 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Oh yes, I've see that. Noted from this list. To me its both hysterical and
deeply troubling. On the one hand, it bemuses me to see someone else's
programming pain so well presented, mirroring my own,
On Jan 7, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-01-07 03:58 PM, Warner Losh wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 4:56 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Oh yes, I've see that. Noted from this list. To me its both hysterical and
deeply troubling. On the one hand, it bemuses me to see someone else's
On 2014-01-07 06:34 PM, Rob Seaman wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure most on this list have similar experience. Hey, we could start a
reality tv show!
Leap second war story death match!
On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:16 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
On 2014-01-07 06:34 PM, Rob Seaman wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 7:31 PM, Warner Losh i...@bsdimp.com wrote:
On Jan 7, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Brooks Harris wrote:
Yeah, I'm sure most on this list have similar experience. Hey, we could
start a
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