Hi there,
I've been using ledger for a few years now and share a similar
enthusiasm to Martin Blais (I've been reading archives to update my
current best practices and can sense his passion in the emails he
writes :)). I've stumbled on this thread from a few months ago and
thought I'd contribute
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:37:01PM -0400, Martin Blais wrote:In
particular,
Do you realize that there is a function to already do this in ledger
mode? clean up buffer
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 8:38 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca
On Mon, Jun 9, 2014 at 11:36 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
Do you realize that there is a function to already do this in ledger
mode? clean up buffer
Yes, but thanks for pointing it out Craig.
Beancount's syntax has changed radically when I started version 2, and I
stopped using
/Documents/Finans/ledger/project.dat, line 16:
(Assets:Project:Budget) (1000,00 NOK * amount)
Error: 'equity' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the
same
account
For some reason these commands gives the right output:
ledger bal budget
ledger reg budget
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc
wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:37:01PM -0400, Martin Blais wrote:In
particular, I'm personally annoyed that when I batchly update ledger
files to
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes:
Virtual accounts are a crutch. I say: don't use them. If you hadn't had them
in the first place, you would have come up with a similar method yourself.
If people don't want to use them, that's fine. But Ledger is not an
accounting tool; it's a tool that
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes:
[...]
I think you're just not being creative enough with it. Here's an
alternative system that solves your accounting problem without
resorting to virtual accounts: just count the receipts themselves.
option operating_currency RMB
2014-01-01 open
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
Expenses:Taxes:US:TY2014:Google:Federal
Expenses:Taxes:US:TY2014:Google:StateNY
Expenses:Taxes:US:TY2014:Google:CityNYC
I got the ordering
On 5/17/14 10:10 AM, Lifepillar wrote:
@Jostein: I have concluded some time ago that keeping virtual and
non-virtual accounts distinct is a best practice (good tip for
LedgerTips?).
Noted, thanks!
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On 5/17/14 11:50 PM, Martin Blais wrote:
I wonder if a more general rule-of-thumb can be inferred here: if you
can make do with subaccounts, you should always favor that over tags or
other mechanisms. Not sure if always true? But surely something to
think about.
That has always been my default
On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 2:46 PM, John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com wrote:
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes:
If the community accounts straddle the real accounts, you just filter by
the
CommunityX bit. Imagine for a moment the worse case, that all real
accounts
have all community
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes:
It's true that this is not a nice solution, but neither is using virtual
accounts, because you give up the balancing check, which in my view is
simply not an acceptable option... It might look nice, but it makes it
really easy for you to make a mistake
Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com writes:
* Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net [2014-05-19 09:59]:
~ Monthly
; Payee: Tax Dodgers, Inc
Assets:Merchants:5231 7000 RMB ; regular salary
part
Assets:Receivable 3000 RMB ; receipts
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 07:51:51PM -0400, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
I essentially convert Assets:Reimbursable to Assets:Receivable. When
I submit my expense report, I'm just awaiting payment from my
employer.
So, do you have a way to automatically check that, for each expense
report, your
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:37:01PM -0400, Martin Blais wrote:
Now the truly, wonderfully great thing is how much *power* we have
using our little text files. It's exhilarating. I can write a little
script that renames my accounts automatically - I use xx-rename - look
at it in visual diff, run
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 6:06 AM, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 11:37:01PM -0400, Martin Blais wrote:
Now the truly, wonderfully great thing is how much *power* we have
using our little text files. It's exhilarating. I can write a little
script that
* Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca [2014-05-20 00:45]:
Another thing I forgot to mention is that tags have proved to be awfully
easy to forget to insert.
That's true, although:
1) Most of my CVS-ledger process is semi-automated and adds the right
tags for me.
2) You could add account checks that
* Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc [2014-05-20 11:59]:
So, do you have a way to automatically check that, for each expense
report, your employee has actually reimbursed you the exact amount
you've asked for? (It doesn't always happen with my employer, and when
it doesn't I want to
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes:
It would be useful to build a list of real-world use cases of virtual
postings and see if they can all be solved without or not - make a
compelling argument about the need for virtual postings.
I'd be interested to know your solution to the
* Eric Abrahamsen e...@ericabrahamsen.net [2014-05-19 09:59]:
~ Monthly
; Payee: Tax Dodgers, Inc
Assets:Merchants:5231 7000 RMB ; regular salary part
Assets:Receivable 3000 RMB ; receipts
Income:Salary
Is this just an example
* Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca [2014-05-19 15:42]:
If not, this is easily solved using subaccounts.
I must say I'm with John on this: virtual accounts are a much more
elegant solution in this case than what you propose.
I'm not sure if there's a way to achieve what John wants with tags. I
On May 19, 2014, at 5:04 PM, Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com wrote:
2014-05-19 * Booking tithe
Assets:US:BofA:Checking -300 USD
Assets:US:BofA:Checking:Tithe300 USD
Now you're creating an account that doesn't exist, which I don't find
ideal.
The real problem is that you've
On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 8:04 PM, Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com wrote:
* Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca [2014-05-19 15:42]:
If not, this is easily solved using subaccounts.
I must say I'm with John on this: virtual accounts are a much more
elegant solution in this case than what you
On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:15 AM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
Expenses:Taxes:US:TY2014:Google:Federal
Expenses:Taxes:US:TY2014:Google:StateNY
Expenses:Taxes:US:TY2014:Google:CityNYC
... I don't see the advantage of putting your employer's name there.
If you really want
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:04 PM,
I'm starting to think that I should start creating a distinct expense
account for each tax year, because that's how both the Canadian and US
governments handle it: amounts that you post get booked to a particular
year
I'd use tags.
That would work
In article
CAK21+hObT7wAsaUVtaWJ00EZbCNCZp3oSd3RUg=pq5caah+...@mail.gmail.com,
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
Now the truly, wonderfully great thing is how much *power* we have
using our little text files.
Totally agree. The only thing that could compete (and possibly be
superior)
In article 20140517224631.ga27...@jirafa.cyrius.com,
Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com wrote:
Oh, you probably meant gross income of $5200 consisting of $5100
taxable income and a $100 tax-exempt allowance.
Sure, sorry for not being more explicit.
Thank you all, I've learned a lot! As I said,
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes:
It would be useful to build a list of real-world use cases of virtual
postings and see if they can all be solved without or not - make a
compelling argument about the need for virtual postings.
I'd be interested to know your solution to the following
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca writes:
[...]
It would be useful to build a list of real-world use cases of virtual
postings and see if they can all be solved without or not - make a
compelling argument about the need for virtual postings.
I have a fairly simple use-case, the system for which
In article
cak21+hp9zp05erd8fhkkqtx-xglzyh93cxxv_r+05605e43...@mail.gmail.com,
Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
Really? This surprises me. I read this as a reasonable assumption and
looked up the Ledger doc for it but could not find it.
It makes sense to me that one may want to restrict
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 1:37 PM, Harshad RJ harshad...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Lifepillar lifepil...@lifepillar.comwrote:
2013/05/17 * Myself
Assets:Checking:Myself $3500.00
Income:Salary:Family Allowance $-100.00
Income:Salary:Taxable:Net
' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the same
account
For some reason these commands gives the right output:
ledger bal budget
ledger reg budget
But these give the error above:
ledger reg -s budget
ledger reg -M budget
My intention is to add hours like in the entry below
* Lifepillar lifepil...@lifepillar.com [2014-05-17 19:10]:
consider the following example: an employee in the public sector
gets a salary that is taxed in advance. He may get a monthly
statement with the following information:
Gross income: $5200
Family allowance (tax-exempt): $100
Taxes:
* Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com [2014-05-17 18:41]:
Gross income: $5200
Family allowance (tax-exempt): $100
Taxes: $1700
Net income: $3500
BTW, there's a calculation error here. Either net income should be
$3600 or taxes $1800. But that's a just a minor detail. I found your
* Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca [2014-05-17 13:52]:
I think in this case you're simply doing this wrong and you don't need
virtual postings at all.
Here's how I would do this:
- Income counts the gross income amount ($5,200).
- Tax withholding (not just for govt accounts, BTW) is usually
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com wrote:
* Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca [2014-05-17 13:52]:
- Your non-taxable allowance can be tracked in a separate contra income
account (that is, one with a positive amount). That's what I do for some
of
my deductions.
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 9:04 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 7:06 PM, Martin Michlmayr t...@cyrius.com wrote:
Income:US:Google:Deductions:Medical .XX USD
Income:US:Google:Deductions:TransitPreTax.XX USD
) (1000,00 NOK * amount)
Example command and output:
ledger reg -s budget
While handling posting from
/home/jostein/Documents/Finans/ledger/project.dat, line 16:
(Assets:Project:Budget) (1000,00 NOK * amount)
Error: 'equity' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the same
/jostein/Documents/Finans/ledger/project.dat, line 16:
(Assets:Project:Budget) (1000,00 NOK * amount)
Error: 'equity' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the
same
account
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/home/jostein/Documents/Finans/ledger/project.dat, line 16:
(Assets:Project:Budget) (1000,00 NOK * amount)
Error: 'equity' cannot accept virtual and non-virtual postings to the same
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