Re: Keeping track of cash advances

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Would you happen to have a concrete example? I didn’t follow the "before I know 
how much its..”, how do you add an entry without knowing the value?

Best.
AR

> On 27 Jul 2023, at 12:53, o1bigtenor  wrote:
> 
> Dunno about "doing this correctly" - - - - but I use credit accounts.
> 
> I buy some fuel for agency Y.
> They issue a statement the following month payable that month.
> I use a credit account to "pay' for the purchase before I know how much its
> going to be.
> When I make my payment the payee is the agency and the credit account
> is reduced by that amount.
> 
> Its all in the matter of having enough listed 'accounts'.
> 
> I have been using this idea long before I even had a computer to use - - -
> think early 80s.
> 
> HTH
> 

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Re: A feature idea: An alternative org-mode input format

[Alexandre Rademaker]

The table would be just a normal content, right? Is the format below more 
regular for org-mode?

* [2023-01-10 Tue] Adobe Acrobat Pro
   :PROPERTIES:
   :ID:   076497DC-45F7-43EC-BFDA-00177EFC3C0D
   :CREATED:  [2023-01-25 Wed 21:40]
   :END:

 | Expenses:Administrative | $33.59 |
 | Equity:Admin:Somebody   ||


I am curious about the use cases for the benefits you described. 

Best,
Alexandre


> On 9 Feb 2023, at 16:40, John Wiegley  wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I was thinking of creating a separate tool for translating specially formatted
> Org-mode files into Ledger files. For example, this entry:
> 
>2023-01-10 Adobe Acrobat Pro
>; ID: 076497DC-45F7-43EC-BFDA-00177EFC3C0D
>; CREATED:  [2023-01-25 Wed 21:40]
>Expenses:Administrative   $33.59
>Equity:Admin:Somebody
> 
> Would be processed from this Org-mode entry:
> 
>* [2023-01-10 Tue] Adobe Acrobat Pro
>   | Expenses:Administrative | $33.59 |
>   | Equity:Admin:Somebody   ||
>:PROPERTIES:
>:ID:   076497DC-45F7-43EC-BFDA-00177EFC3C0D
>:CREATED:  [2023-01-25 Wed 21:40]
>:END:
> 
> Now, why might you want to record Ledger entry in Org-mode? Because you get
> these added benefits:
> 
>  - Org-mode's hierarchical organization, narrowing, searching, filtering
>  - Org-mode tags become Ledger tags for the whole transaction
>  - Org-mode properties become Ledger metadata for the whole transaction
>  - You can use Org-attach to attach files to entries
>  - You can use cross-linking to jump between entries
>  - You can use the agenda and calendar to review entries on given dates
> 
> There's already a Haskell library for parsing Org-mode files, so I was
> thinking that building this as a UNIX tool shouldn't be but a few days work.
> It would be run as follows:
> 
>org2ledger ledger.org | ledger -f - reg
> 
> John
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Re: How to split expenses

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Sorry for insist, but someone has any thoughts about the question in the end of 
the message below? Repeating here:

But how to record when both of us paid some different amount of the same 
expense? Maybe this turns out to suggest to rethink the option for the case 
above? Below the total expense is EU 12,00 we should both pay EU 6,00, but I 
paid EU 10,00 and he paid only EU 2,00. Does it make sense? I am trying to 
record that I would add 6 to the amount he owe me, but at the same transaction, 
I am also removing EU 2,00 from that because he is giving EU 2,00. But I am not 
touching in the Liabilities:DF

2023/01/17 Place3
Expenses:Food   EU 6,00
Assets:Receivable:DFEU 6,00
Assets:Receivable:DF   EU -2,00
Assets:Cash   EU -10,00


> On 3 Feb 2023, at 14:52, Alexandre Rademaker  wrote:
> 
> 
> Continuing the trip with a friend…. I renamed the accounts suggested by John 
> from Assets:Payable:DF to Assets:Receivable:DF. Regarding the Liabilities:DF 
> and Liabilities:Payable:DF. Actually Liabilities:Payable is kind of 
> redundant.. maybe Liabilities:DF is enough. 
> 
> when I paid something for us, I record the total cost and add in 
> Assets:Receivable:DF the fact that he owe me half of the expense:
> 
> 2023/01/07 Place1
> Expenses:Food   EU 6,00
> Assets:Receivable:DFEU 6,00
> Assets:Wise 
> 
> When he paid something, I recorded that I owe him half of the total. This 
> turned out to be the simpler alternative as Yuri's suggestion. But the 
> alternative in the message below is interesting too, adding a little bit of 
> extra complexity to move between Assets:Receivable:DF and Liabilities:DF, but 
> I can do that once in the end of the trip.
> 
> 2023/01/02 Sample
> Expenses:Food   EU 6,00 ; total EU 12,00
> Liabilities:DF 
> 
> 
> But how to record when both of us paid some different amount of the same 
> expense? Maybe this turns out to suggest to rethink the option for the case 
> above? 
> 
> Below the total expense is EU 12,00 we should both pay EU 6,00, but I paid EU 
> 10,00 and he paid only EU 2,00. Does it make sense? I am trying to record 
> that I would add 6 to the amount he owe me, but at the same transaction, I am 
> also removing EU 2,00 from that because he is giving EU 2,00. But I am not 
> touching in the Liabilities:DF
> 
> 2023/01/17 Place3
> Expenses:Food   EU 6,00
> Assets:Receivable:DFEU 6,00
> Assets:Receivable:DF   EU -2,00
> Assets:Cash   EU -10,00
> 
> Best,
> Alexandre
> 
> 
>> On 12 Jan 2023, at 14:23, Yuri Khan  wrote:
>> 
>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 at 19:10, Alexandre Rademaker  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I see your point and you are right that using the second entry below would 
>>> be simpler and record the fact that I owe ‘DF’ 3 euros.  But using the 
>>> first entry below allow me to also record the total amount of the expense 
>>> if later on we all want to remember how much was the parking. Using only 
>>> the comment would be an alternative too. The only real problem with the 
>>> first entry is the fact that usually liabilities are negative, right? Maybe 
>>> I could find a better name? The ‘Payable:DF’ is to record the moneys that 
>>> ‘DF’ owes to me.
>>> 
>>> 2023/01/07 Hotel Braga Parking
>>>Expenses:ParkingEU 3,00
>>>Liabilities:DF  EU 3,00
>>>Assets:DF  EU -6,00
>> 
>> If you want to track everything in full detail, you can do that too.
>> Just pretend that you manage all the finances.
>> 
>> * Count goods and services you consume into Expenses.
>> * Count goods and services your friends consume into
>> Assets:Receivable, as if they owe you.
>> * Track money you pay from the actual accounts you pay from (Assets if
>> cash or debit cards; Liabilities if credit cards).
>> * Track money your friends pay from Liabilities:Payable, as if you owe them.
>> 
>> 2023-01-07 Hotel Braga Parking
>>Expenses:Parking   EUR 3,00
>>Assets:Receivable:DF   EUR 3,00
>>Liabilities:Payable:DFEUR -6,00
>> 
>> At the end of trip, or at any time, you can cancel out debts:
>> 
>> 2023-01-07 Debt cancellation
>>Liabilities:Payable:DF EUR 3,00
>>Assets:Receivable:DF  EUR -3,00
>&

Re: How to split expenses

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Continuing the trip with a friend…. I renamed the accounts suggested by John 
from Assets:Payable:DF to Assets:Receivable:DF. Regarding the Liabilities:DF 
and Liabilities:Payable:DF. Actually Liabilities:Payable is kind of redundant.. 
maybe Liabilities:DF is enough. 

when I paid something for us, I record the total cost and add in 
Assets:Receivable:DF the fact that he owe me half of the expense:

2023/01/07 Place1
Expenses:Food   EU 6,00
Assets:Receivable:DFEU 6,00
Assets:Wise 

When he paid something, I recorded that I owe him half of the total. This 
turned out to be the simpler alternative as Yuri's suggestion. But the 
alternative in the message below is interesting too, adding a little bit of 
extra complexity to move between Assets:Receivable:DF and Liabilities:DF, but I 
can do that once in the end of the trip.

2023/01/02 Sample
Expenses:Food   EU 6,00 ; total EU 12,00
Liabilities:DF 


But how to record when both of us paid some different amount of the same 
expense? Maybe this turns out to suggest to rethink the option for the case 
above? 

Below the total expense is EU 12,00 we should both pay EU 6,00, but I paid EU 
10,00 and he paid only EU 2,00. Does it make sense? I am trying to record that 
I would add 6 to the amount he owe me, but at the same transaction, I am also 
removing EU 2,00 from that because he is giving EU 2,00. But I am not touching 
in the Liabilities:DF

2023/01/17 Place3
Expenses:Food   EU 6,00
Assets:Receivable:DFEU 6,00
Assets:Receivable:DF   EU -2,00
Assets:Cash   EU -10,00

Best,
Alexandre


> On 12 Jan 2023, at 14:23, Yuri Khan  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 12 Jan 2023 at 19:10, Alexandre Rademaker  
> wrote:
> 
>> I see your point and you are right that using the second entry below would 
>> be simpler and record the fact that I owe ‘DF’ 3 euros.  But using the first 
>> entry below allow me to also record the total amount of the expense if later 
>> on we all want to remember how much was the parking. Using only the comment 
>> would be an alternative too. The only real problem with the first entry is 
>> the fact that usually liabilities are negative, right? Maybe I could find a 
>> better name? The ‘Payable:DF’ is to record the moneys that ‘DF’ owes to me.
>> 
>> 2023/01/07 Hotel Braga Parking
>>Expenses:ParkingEU 3,00
>>Liabilities:DF  EU 3,00
>>Assets:DF  EU -6,00
> 
> If you want to track everything in full detail, you can do that too.
> Just pretend that you manage all the finances.
> 
> * Count goods and services you consume into Expenses.
> * Count goods and services your friends consume into
> Assets:Receivable, as if they owe you.
> * Track money you pay from the actual accounts you pay from (Assets if
> cash or debit cards; Liabilities if credit cards).
> * Track money your friends pay from Liabilities:Payable, as if you owe them.
> 
> 2023-01-07 Hotel Braga Parking
>Expenses:Parking   EUR 3,00
>Assets:Receivable:DF   EUR 3,00
>Liabilities:Payable:DFEUR -6,00
> 
> At the end of trip, or at any time, you can cancel out debts:
> 
> 2023-01-07 Debt cancellation
>Liabilities:Payable:DF EUR 3,00
>Assets:Receivable:DF  EUR -3,00
> 
> After the above, Assets:DF is at 0 and Liabilities:DF is at EUR -3,00,
> indicating you owe DF 3 Euro.
> 
> (Unrelated: Consider using standard ISO 4217 currency codes. While we
> are at it, consider also using the standard ISO 8601 date separator.)
> 

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Re: How to split expenses

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Hi Yuri,

I see your point and you are right that using the second entry below would be 
simpler and record the fact that I owe ‘DF’ 3 euros.  But using the first entry 
below allow me to also record the total amount of the expense if later on we 
all want to remember how much was the parking. Using only the comment would be 
an alternative too. The only real problem with the first entry is the fact that 
usually liabilities are negative, right? Maybe I could find a better name? The 
‘Payable:DF’ is to record the moneys that ‘DF’ owes to me.


2023/01/07 Hotel Braga Parking
Expenses:ParkingEU 3,00
Liabilities:DF  EU 3,00
Assets:DF  EU -6,00

versus

2023/01/07 Hotel Braga Parking
Expenses:ParkingEU 3,00 ; total was 6,00
Liabilities:DF 



> On 11 Jan 2023, at 12:42, Yuri Khan  wrote:
> 
> No. If you, Bob, Nancy, and Joe each ate a $10 lunch and Joe paid $40
> for it, you owe Joe 10 bucks and that’s it.
> 
>2023/01/02 Sample
>Expenses:Food   $10
>Liabilities:Joe $10
> 
> Everything else is Joe’s own concern.
> 
> Alternatively, if you volunteered to keep track of everyone’s debts,
> you can pretend that Bob and Nancy owe you $10 each, and you owe that
> + your share to Joe:
> 
>2023/01/02 Sample
>Expenses:Food   $10
>Assets:Bob  $10
>Assets:Nancy$10
>Liabilities:Joe
> 
> Just be sure to notice if/when Bob repays his debt to Joe so you can record 
> it:
> 
>2023/01/03 Sample
>Liabilities:Joe $10
>Assets:Bob
> 

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Re: How to split expenses

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Thank you John, I am using your approach (first) with an extra alternative when 
I didn’t pay but any other person pay and I need to record the liabilitie 
(second). Does it make sense?


2023/01/01 Sample
 Expenses:Food   $10
 Assets:Payable:Joe  $10 
 Assets:Payable:Bob  $10
 Assets:Payable:Nancy$10
 Liabilities:Credit

2023/01/02 Sample
 Expenses:Food   $30
 Liabilities:Joe $10 ; I need to pay Joe later
 Assets:Joe  ; it doesn’t matter for me how Joe payed, just a 
general account


Thank you Tobias for the link, I will read the thread! 

Best,
Alexandre


> On 10 Jan 2023, at 00:45, John Wiegley  wrote:
> 
> I usually do something like this:
> 
>2023/01/01 Sample
>  Expenses:Food   $10
>  Assets:Payable:Joe  $10
>  Assets:Payable:Bob  $10
>  Assets:Payable:Nancy$10
>  Liabilities:Credit
> 
> John

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How to split expenses

[Alexandre Rademaker]

I am traveling friends. We are splitting some expenses like the car rental, 
full, some restaurants etc. but I also want to record how I paid each expense 
(credit card, cash etc). Idea? What is the best practice? 

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Python 2 dependency?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

In the MacOS:

$ brew info ledger
ledger: stable 3.1.3 (bottled), HEAD
Command-line, double-entry accounting tool
https://ledger-cli.org/
/usr/local/Cellar/ledger/3.1.3_2 (131 files, 14.5MB) *
  Poured from bottle on 2019-09-22 at 12:56:13
From: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core/blob/master/Formula/ledger.rb
==> Dependencies
Build: cmake ✔
Required: boost ✔, boost-python ✔, gmp ✔, mpfr ✔, python@2 ✔
==> Options
--HEAD
Install HEAD version
==> Caveats
Bash completion has been installed to:
  /usr/local/etc/bash_completion.d
==> Analytics
install: 671 (30 days), 1,330 (90 days), 6,568 (365 days)
install_on_request: 600 (30 days), 1,204 (90 days), 5,713 (365 days)
build_error: 0 (30 days)


Can we avoid the dependency of Python 2?

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Re: Auto-completion on Tab in Emacs?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

>From https://github.com/ledger/ledger-mode/pull/174, it looks like the 
>functionality was not removed but replaced by something that I didn’t 
>understand yet. It worked for me the code:

 (add-hook 'ledger-mode-hook
   (lambda ()
 (setq-local tab-always-indent 'complete)
 (setq-local completion-cycle-threshold t)))

But I am curious to understand the discussion above. Does anyone here knows 
what was the idea? What is the best solution for completion (mainly of account 
names in my case) in ledger mode?

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> On 23 Sep 2019, at 16:16, Richard Lawrence  wrote:
> 
> Hi Oscar,
> 
> Oscar  writes:
> 
>> I can't seem to have auto-completion to work when I press tab in 
>> ledger-mode in Emacs . 
>> 
>> Previous versions I never had this problem. Is this a bug? It does indent 
>> but pressing tab doesn't do the autocomplete.
> 
> This was changed recently; I noticed it too when I recently upgraded
> ledger-mode.  Discussion here: https://github.com/ledger/ledger-mode/pull/174
> 
> To get (something like) the old behavior back, you can do:
> 
>  (add-hook 'ledger-mode-hook
>(lambda ()
>  (setq-local tab-always-indent 'complete)
>  (setq-local completion-cycle-threshold t)
>  (setq-local ledger-complete-in-steps t)))
> 
> I found that this solution was not quite satisfying; whatever the old
> version did to guess the ordering of completions was better. But I also
> recently decided to try out Ivy for completion; with ivy-mode on, I find
> this is enough:
> 
>  (add-hook 'ledger-mode-hook
>(lambda ()
>  (setq-local tab-always-indent 'complete)
>  (setq-local completion-cycle-threshold t)))
> 
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Auto-complete of accounts in emacs ledger-mode

[Alexandre Rademaker]

The auto-complete with tab of accounts stop works on my emacs ! Any idea?

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Re: Prudent: macOS editor and reporting wrapper around Ledger

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Hi Vito,

I liked the tool but I don't want to be forced to save the files before
quit. Moreover, I would like to keep using Emacs for editing and using
Prudent as a dashboard for navigating in the reports. Is it possible?

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On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 3:42 PM, vitoc  wrote:

> Hey everyone,
>
> I'd been working on a macOS editor and reporting wrapper around Ledger for
> about a year (spare time side-project). I'd just completed it and will
> appreciate some help from any macOS users out there that can try it and see
> if it's useful.
>
> I made a website for the tool (called Prudent) here:
>
> https://prudent.me
>
> The app itself comes with an integrated editor and a calendar-like
> reporting tool. It's really an effort to make Ledger work for me (taking
> into account how my aging brain needs more visual stimulus to issue
> commands to the computer), but I think it might be useful to others with
> similar thinking structure and needs.
>
> I have a lot more ideas for features for it and will continue working on
> it but really want to get it out there to see how far such a tool can go :)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vito
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Re: Multiple journal files?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Perfect , UUID is the one I was trying to remember. Can you share the script 
and examples ?

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> On 6 Mar 2018, at 06:21, Dániel Fancsali <fancs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> My solution is to have one file per bank account, and the transfers are 
> marked with an UUID tag, so they will only be considered by ledger, when seen 
> for the first time.
> 
> Also, when including multiple files, you have to be very careful with the 
> balance assertions, as balance is calculated in parsing order, and not by 
> ordering all the transactions in memory. My solution for this is a little 
> script that'll merge/sort all the files to one single journal, and then I'll 
> run ledger on that.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Dan
> 
>> On Tue, 6 Mar 2018 at 09:14 Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> What about one bank account per file? In that case I need a way to avoid 
>> duplicate a transaction that envolve two accounts of  different files. I 
>> remember that in the pass we had a discussion about unique transaction ids 
>> in the metadata. Do ledger and hledeger support it?
>> 
>> Alexandre
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On 6 Mar 2018, at 05:10, Roderick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Oh! I just tried specifying multiple --file options, and that worked.
>> >
>> >
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Re: Multiple journal files?

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What about one bank account per file? In that case I need a way to avoid 
duplicate a transaction that envolve two accounts of  different files. I 
remember that in the pass we had a discussion about unique transaction ids in 
the metadata. Do ledger and hledeger support it?

Alexandre 
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> Oh! I just tried specifying multiple --file options, and that worked.
> 
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Re: ledger in Mac Ports

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I don’t understand what is going on. I just removed all Mac ports but I al 
still facing errors with date and number format using ledger installed with 
brew as you said 

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> On 3 Nov 2017, at 16:03, p51d78th  wrote:
> 
> I use brew with the - - head option.
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ledger in Mac Ports

[Alexandre Rademaker]

https://trac.macports.org/ticket/55227

It is failing to install... No alternative. The version on brew is not 
working. The version on MacPorts do not install! 

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Re: ledger xact - "Error: Invalid date:"

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Only to make it precise, the message was


While parsing file "/Users/arademaker/Documents/Financeiro/data/2017.dat",
line 7275:
While parsing posting:
  Expenses:Educacao:Curso:Sofia R$ 432.63
^
Error: Incorrect use of thousand-mark period

Alexandre

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Re: ledger xact - "Error: Invalid date:"

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Does any one have a solution for this problem?? 

BTW, today I got a new error

Error: Incorrect use of thousand-mark period
While parsing file "/Users/arademaker/Documents/Financeiro/data/2017.dat", 
line 7275:
While parsing posting:
  Expenses:Educacao:Curso:Sofia R$ 432.63
^


Any idea?


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Re: ledger xact - "Error: Invalid date:"

[Alexandre Rademaker]

I am trying to install via MacPorts, but I am scared with the number of
dependencies

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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 9:15 PM, Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Craig,
>
> I think so
>
> $ ledger -f 2017.dat xact 2017/10/24 Chacaltaya R\$10
> Error: Invalid date:
>
> The same error inside Emacs with `C-c C-a`. No idea here... any help will
> be welcome! ;-)
>
> Best,
>
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>
>
> On 24 Oct 2017, at 21:08, Craig Earls <ender...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Are you escaping the dollar sign properly for your shell?
>
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 16:07 Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hum... This is strange!
>>
>> After
>>
>> $ brew uninstall ledger
>> $ brew install -s ledger
>>
>> same error:
>>
>> $ ledger -f 2017.dat xact 2017/10/24 Chacaltaya R$10
>> Error: Invalid date:
>>
>>
>> $ ledger
>> Ledger 3.1.1-20160111, the command-line accounting tool
>>
>> Copyright (c) 2003-2016, John Wiegley.  All rights reserved.
>>
>> This program is made available under the terms of the BSD Public License.
>> See LICENSE file included with the distribution for details and
>> disclaimer.
>> Error: No journal file was specified (please use -f)
>>
>> $ uname -a
>> Darwin urca.local 17.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 17.0.0: Thu Aug 24
>> 21:48:19 PDT 2017; root:xnu-4570.1.46~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
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>> http://researcher.ibm.com/person/br-alexrad
>>
>>
>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 20:40, Craig Earls <ender...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have the same installation description with no problem.  Try brew
>> install -s ledger to build it from source. Possibly there is binary
>> compatibility issue with the brewed installation
>>
>>
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Re: ledger xact - "Error: Invalid date:"

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Hi Craig,

I think so

$ ledger -f 2017.dat xact 2017/10/24 Chacaltaya R\$10
Error: Invalid date:

The same error inside Emacs with `C-c C-a`. No idea here... any help will be 
welcome! ;-)

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> On 24 Oct 2017, at 21:08, Craig Earls <ender...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Are you escaping the dollar sign properly for your shell?
> 
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 16:07 Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:aradema...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hum... This is strange! 
> 
> After
> 
> $ brew uninstall ledger
> $ brew install -s ledger
> 
> same error:
> 
> $ ledger -f 2017.dat xact 2017/10/24 Chacaltaya R$10
> Error: Invalid date:
> 
> 
> $ ledger
> Ledger 3.1.1-20160111, the command-line accounting tool
> 
> Copyright (c) 2003-2016, John Wiegley.  All rights reserved.
> 
> This program is made available under the terms of the BSD Public License.
> See LICENSE file included with the distribution for details and disclaimer.
> Error: No journal file was specified (please use -f)
> 
> $ uname -a
> Darwin urca.local 17.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 17.0.0: Thu Aug 24 21:48:19 
> PDT 2017; root:xnu-4570.1.46~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 20:40, Craig Earls <ender...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:ender...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
> 
>> I have the same installation description with no problem.  Try brew install 
>> -s ledger to build it from source. Possibly there is binary compatibility 
>> issue with the brewed installation 
>> 

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Re: ledger xact - "Error: Invalid date:"

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Hum... This is strange! 

After

$ brew uninstall ledger
$ brew install -s ledger

same error:

$ ledger -f 2017.dat xact 2017/10/24 Chacaltaya R$10
Error: Invalid date:


$ ledger
Ledger 3.1.1-20160111, the command-line accounting tool

Copyright (c) 2003-2016, John Wiegley.  All rights reserved.

This program is made available under the terms of the BSD Public License.
See LICENSE file included with the distribution for details and disclaimer.
Error: No journal file was specified (please use -f)

$ uname -a
Darwin urca.local 17.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 17.0.0: Thu Aug 24 21:48:19 PDT 
2017; root:xnu-4570.1.46~2/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

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> On 24 Oct 2017, at 20:40, Craig Earls <ender...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I have the same installation description with no problem.  Try brew install 
> -s ledger to build it from source. Possibly there is binary compatibility 
> issue with the brewed installation 
> 
> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 15:33 Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com 
> <mailto:aradema...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Same error here! Any Idea? I am running High Sierra with Ledger installed via 
> `brew install ledger`.
> 
> Best,
> 
> On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 6:32:34 PM UTC-3, John Wiegley wrote:
> >>>>> "LB" == Leo Bossmann <leo.bo...@gmail.com <>> writes: 
> 
> LB> ledger -f test.ledger xact 2017/09/03 Google 
> LB> I get* "Error: Invalid date:"* 
> 
> Hmmm... I wonder if something changed in the C++ library, since we're using 
> that for doing date parsing. 
> 
> John 
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Re: ledger xact - "Error: Invalid date:"

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Same error here! Any Idea? I am running High Sierra with Ledger installed 
via `brew install ledger`.

Best,

On Friday, October 13, 2017 at 6:32:34 PM UTC-3, John Wiegley wrote:
>
> > "LB" == Leo Bossmann  writes: 
>
> LB> ledger -f test.ledger xact 2017/09/03 Google 
> LB> I get* "Error: Invalid date:"* 
>
> Hmmm... I wonder if something changed in the C++ library, since we're 
> using 
> that for doing date parsing. 
>
> John 
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Re: How to use ledger in my (unusual) workflow?

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Thanks for the suggestions ! 

I didn't get the #tag idea , do you have examples ?! I was thinking in having 
accounts for the amount approved , for each reimbursement report and for the 
card statements. 

Yes, I am already using the online bank statements, but sometimes the 
difference in the exchange rate can be huge from the online statement for the 
final one. 

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> On 6 de ago de 2016, at 01:46, Martin Blais <bl...@furius.ca> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 4:39 PM, Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe tomorrow you can be especially motivated to write, leaving ideas, who 
>> knows! I would appreciate some thoughts! ;-)
>> 
>> One of my nightmares is reimbursements. Every travel that I make for a 
>> conference start with the trip approval. Once the trip is approved, I can 
>> use the business credit card for buying all pre-trip expenses: the air 
>> tickets, conference registration, etc. During travelling, I can also use the 
>> business card for all expenses. For some expenses, I have to provide the 
>> receipts (air tickets, hotel, taxi, etc.), others are considered part of my 
>> per diem. 
> 
> Use the business CC as much as you can -- everything in there you claim.
> 
> 
>> Depending on the dates of the payments, not all expenses will be in the same 
>> credit card statement. I am responsible for paying the credit card and ask 
>> for reimbursement. I can ask my company to pay the refund to my personal 
>> account or direct to the credit card too.
> 
> For personal expenses, use a #tag and generate an income statement filtering 
> on that tag.
>  
> 
>> Another difficult is the currency exchange rate. Since I must complete a 
>> reimbursement report, not after ten days of any payment, I generally need to 
>> complete the reimbursement report before having the credit card statement. 
>> Given that, I have to use the current day currency exchange rate when I am 
>> preparing the report. Once I have the statement, I must check the actual 
>> currency exchange rate utilised in the statement to calculate the difference 
>> and fill a complementary reimbursement report.
> 
> You're driving yourself crazy. 
> 
> First, transactions usually post within 2-3 days. Surely your bank has a 
> website you can download the transactions from (... don't wait for the paper 
> statement, in case you're making that mistake). I can't imagine your employer 
> can't wait a week before you send them the expense report.
> 
> Second, using whatever exchange rate at the time of making the report won't 
> make much of a difference over typical trip expense amounts. Your time is 
> well worth the <$20 difference. Plus you can fix it later and request the 
> different on your next expense report (or just forget about it).
> 
> 
>> Does anyone share similar difficulties and would like to discuss how Ledger 
>> can help us with all this trouble?
> 
> I used to do the same - tag transactions in my personal account, and then 
> transfer out paid expenses from my company's account. Tags are sufficient for 
> this problem.
> 
> 
> 
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Marcin Borkowski <mb...@mbork.pl> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 2016-08-05, at 16:37, Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Marcin,
>>>> 
>>>> http://mbork.pl/Comments_on_2016-07-18_Ledger_–_virtual_postings_aka_envelopes
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the post ! See my comment.
>>> 
>>> You're welcome, and good catch.  I'll try to write something tomorrow.
>>> 
>>>> Alexandre 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
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Re: How to use ledger in my (unusual) workflow?

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Maybe tomorrow you can be especially motivated to write, leaving ideas, who 
knows! I would appreciate some thoughts! ;-)

One of my nightmares is reimbursements. Every travel that I make for a 
conference start with the trip approval. Once the trip is approved, I can use 
the business credit card for buying all pre-trip expenses: the air tickets, 
conference registration, etc. During travelling, I can also use the business 
card for all expenses. For some expenses, I have to provide the receipts (air 
tickets, hotel, taxi, etc.), others are considered part of my per diem. 

Depending on the dates of the payments, not all expenses will be in the same 
credit card statement. I am responsible for paying the credit card and ask for 
reimbursement. I can ask my company to pay the refund to my personal account or 
direct to the credit card too.

Another difficult is the currency exchange rate. Since I must complete a 
reimbursement report, not after ten days of any payment, I generally need to 
complete the reimbursement report before having the credit card statement. 
Given that, I have to use the current day currency exchange rate when I am 
preparing the report. Once I have the statement, I must check the actual 
currency exchange rate utilised in the statement to calculate the difference 
and fill a complementary reimbursement report.

Does anyone share similar difficulties and would like to discuss how Ledger can 
help us with all this trouble?


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> On Aug 5, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Marcin Borkowski <mb...@mbork.pl> wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2016-08-05, at 16:37, Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Marcin,
>> 
>> http://mbork.pl/Comments_on_2016-07-18_Ledger_–_virtual_postings_aka_envelopes
>> 
>> Thanks for the post ! See my comment.
> 
> You're welcome, and good catch.  I'll try to write something tomorrow.
> 
>> Alexandre 
>> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Best,
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Re: How to use ledger in my (unusual) workflow?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Marcin,

http://mbork.pl/Comments_on_2016-07-18_Ledger_–_virtual_postings_aka_envelopes

Thanks for the post ! See my comment.

Alexandre 
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> On 5 de ago de 2016, at 00:55, Marcin Borkowski  wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 2016-08-05, at 02:53, Simon Michael  wrote:
>> 
>> Would envelope budgeting work ? See
>> http://plaintextaccounting.org/#budgeting ->
>> envelope budgeting with plain transactions
>> for an example of what I mean.
> 
> Shameless plug: a simple example on my blog:
> http://mbork.pl/2016-07-18_Ledger_%e2%80%93_virtual_postings_aka_envelopes
> 
> Hth,
> 
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Re: Wrote some code to automatically sync pricedb

[Alexandre Rademaker]

I finally managed to integrate the configuration of Preet code with my .emacs 
file:

(eval-after-load 'flycheck
  '(require 'flycheck-ledger))

(use-package ledger-mode
  :mode "\\.dat"
  :init
  (setq ledger-reports
'(("mes" "ledger -f %(ledger-file) -M reg ^expenses")
  ("bal" "ledger -f %(ledger-file) bal")
  ("reg" "ledger -f %(ledger-file) reg")
  ("payee"   "ledger -f %(ledger-file) reg @%(payee)")
  ("account" "ledger -f %(ledger-file) reg %(account)")))
  :config
  (load-file "~/.emacs.d/ledger-pricedb/ledger-pricedb.el")
  (setq ledger-binary-path "~/ledger/ledger")
  (set 'ledger-pricedb--stocks '("IBM" "NFLX"))
  (set 'ledger-pricedb--pricedb "~/ledger/.pricedb")
  (setq ledger-post-amount-alignment-at :decimal)
  :bind ("C-c u" . ledger-pricedb-save-pricedb))


Does anyone knows how to make sure that flycheck-ledger is loaded and if it is 
running? I tried to write some invalid entries and nothing came up. 

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> On Aug 4, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Alexandre Rademaker <aradema...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Manuel, these are two very different projects! Preet presented un iterative 
> approach for fill the buffer automatically, completely integrated with Emacs, 
> you suggest some python scripts as wrappers to the ledger cli, right? I would 
> advise you to add examples of how to use your code. 
> 
> Anyway, I  prefer the Preet approach! ;-)
> 
> []s
> Alexandre
> 
>> On Aug 3, 2016, at 11:55 PM, Manuel Amador (Rudd-O) <rud...@rudd-o.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 08/01/2016 01:20 AM, Preet Bhinder wrote:
>>> I started using ledger for tracking investments and net worth. It was
>>> becoming a bit painful keeping the .pricedb file upto date so I wrote
>>> some code to do it automatically through Yahoo! Finance.
>>> 
>>> Posting in the hopes of it being useful for somebody
>>> else: https://github.com/mbhinder/ledger-pricedb
>>> 
>>> I taught myself a little elisp while writing this today so I'm sure
>>> the code is atrocious - please be gentle. Any cleanup/feature addition
>>> work is welcome, please submit PRs to github.
>> 
>> Nice project.  Can I ask you to contribute to updateprices in
>> https://github.com/Rudd-O/ledgerhelpers?  It would mean the world to me.
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: Moving ledger-mode out of the main ledger repository

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1+ agree ! It makes sense!

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> On 2 de ago de 2016, at 19:03, Jacob MacDonald  wrote:
> 
> Big fan of the change! I'll be on the lookout for it as I pull it myself 
> instead of using MELPA.
> 
>> On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:21 PM John Wiegley  wrote:
>> Hi guys,
>> 
>> Just wanted to let you know that I'll be splitting ledger-mode and the Emacs
>> code into its own repository within the ledger organization on GitHub soon.
>> 
>> If anyone has any concerns or issues, please let me know. The initial goal is
>> to reduce Travis activity due to frequent changes in ledger-mode, which can't
>> affect the Travis results.
>> 
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Re: Feature idea: custom named reports!

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Can you guys share examples of org-Babel and Python scripts ?!

Alexandre 
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>> "CE" == Craig Earls  writes:
> 
> CE> My most used reports run ledger a few times and format the output. I use
> CE> python scripts for those. Simple reports are save in emacs modewhere they
> CE> can be linked back to the input file.
> 
> Same here; I use org-babel to save the report, rerun them, and capture the
> output.
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Re: Format balance report as org table

[Alexandre Rademaker]

What are the columns X and code in the "org" reporting command??

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> >>>>> Vikas Rawal <vikasra...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > This gives me the table:
>
> > --format "|%(account) |%(quantity(total_expr(amount)))|\n”
>
> Try the "org" reporting command:
>
>   ledger org expenses
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Re: Terminal date in period expressions

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https://github.com/ledger/ledger/pull/458

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> On Jun 28, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Simon Michael <si...@joyful.com> wrote:
> 
> On 6/28/16 4:47 AM, Vikas Rawal wrote:
>> The following period expression excludes transactions on March 31, 2016.
>> 
>> --period 'from 2015/04/01 to 2016/03/31’
>> 
>> Is this a feature or a bug? If it is a feature,  it would be good to express 
>> this clearly in the manual in discussion of period_expressions.
> 
> It's by design; Ledger's end dates are always exclusive.
> 
> This is probably mentioned somewhere in the manual, but a pull request making 
> it clearer would probably be accepted easily.

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Re: Working with per-bank-account files

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Can you give an example? Not clear... 

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> On Mar 21, 2016, at 9:52 AM, Tobias Pfeiffer <tgpfeif...@web.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, 17 Mar 2016 16:48:57 -0700 Martin Michlmayr wrote:
>> The other solution would be use to an UUID tag; if two transactions
>> have the same UUID, ledger will ignore one.
> 
> Uh, for me this only works if the UUID tag is set *above* the
> postings... if the UUID tag is set below the postings, the second one
> is not ignored.
> 
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Re: Getting Started With Ledger - a free (upcoming) introductory book on Ledger

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1+! Maybe a collaborative effort like the HoTT (
http://homotopytypetheory.org/2013/06/20/the-hott-book/)?!  ;-)

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> >>>>> Rolf Schröder <rolf.s...@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Contact me via rolf dot schr at gmail dot com and I'll send you a copy.
> The
> > code presented in the book is already available here
> > https://github.com/rolfschr/GSWL-ecosystem.
>
> I would love a copy, and to help you review it!
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Re: idea for documentation -receipts

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Not really, we were luck today! Since I am from Brazil, it was really nice to 
try so different+good food! 

Following your suggestion, I lost the track of tip, but you are right, looks 
much simpler! 

Best,
Alexandre

 On Aug 21, 2015, at 7:37 PM, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
 
 Happens to me all the time.
 Here's what I do it's simpler:
 
 2015-08-21 * Ippudo NY
   Liabilities::VISA  -97.00 USD
   Assets:Cash   80.00 USD
   Expenses:Food
 
 I hope you didn't wait in line too much... crazy long lines at that place.
 

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idea for documentation -receipts

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Hi,

I don't know if my suggestion is new. Maybe the docs already contains some 
receipts, but I was trying to register an unusual (at least for me) situation 
and I had to think twice how to register it. The problem was, I went to a 
restaurant and payed the entire bill using my credit card and I got back in 
cash the amount from the rest of the group that was there with me. How to 
register it?

I used:

2015/08/21 Ippudo NY
Expenses:Food   US 80.57
Expenses:Tip
Liabilities::VISA  US -97.00
Expenses:Food  US -80.00 
Assets:CashUS  80.00

This kind of receipts for common situation would be nice, don't you agree? I 
also used comments to remember what happened. Any other idea?

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Re: A Query Language for Beancount

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I am still thinking a lot about this idea of a general query language for 
transactions. Not clear to me if the best abstraction is relational one 
(tables, SQL like) or a graph based, more like SPARQL or 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFaH6IvbPiw approach.

I remember that I read something in the past about a general mapping from 
transactions to graph.

[]s
Alexandre


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Hi,

I've been doing some thinking about creating a query language for Beancount for 
a while, but until a few days ago I was left profoundly unsatisfied with the 
design I had in mind, but I think I've finally nailed down an idea that would 
allow me to remove all report types (i.e., no more balances (Ledger: bal), no 
more journal (Ledger: register)): by combining filtering of transactions with 
filtering of postings, as two separate clauses, in a SQL-like syntax where you 
get to specify the desired output columns and inventory aggregations. The 
target of the FROM clause is not a table name, but a set of filters applied to 
full transactions, and the WHERE clause applies to postings.

The ideas are a little bit fresh, so this proposal might feel a bit stream of 
consciousness and needs a bit more polishing.  See the Two-Phase Filtering 
section of this doc:

  
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d88MkHqxiVdF8XSQBT1QQpOKEOt6OC1P9ZoF3u86DwI/edit?usp=sharing

I'd love some feedback and your thoughts (as always you can comment on the doc 
directly).

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Re: Real Comments

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+1 vote for solving this ambiguity meaning of the term payee. Although we can 
also argue that the Payee metadata is one thing and the payee field/element of 
the transaction is another.

Alexandre 
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 On 12/07/2014, at 18:55, Stefano Zacchiroli z...@upsilon.cc  wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 06:58:56PM -0700, Craig Earls wrote:
 On Friday, July 11, 2014, Martin Blais bl...@furius.ca wrote:
 The narration is the descriptive string that comes after the date
 and the flag:
 
  2014/05/06 * Hi I am the narration
...
...
 
 I call that the 'payee'
 
 Ledger naming on this front is overloaded and, IMHO, troublesome.
 
 Ledger's documentation uses payee for both (1) the narration---according
 to Martin's terminology, which I find quite intuitive---and (2) the
 homonymous special metadata field [*].
 
 It gets worse at the CLI level, because ledger payees uses payee's
 meaning (1), whereas ledger --by-payee ... uses meaning (2).
 
 It would be great if this ambiguity could be solved in the future,
 because it could be really puzzling for newbies (speaking out of
 personal experience here).  I'm unsure about the actual term used by
 accountants though, is it really narration?
 
 Cheers.
 
 [*]: http://www.ledger-cli.org/3.0/doc/ledger3.html#Payee-metadata-tag
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Re: ledger-mode and payee's names

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Thank you. The answer is so obvious that I am embarrassed! :-)

Best,
Alexandre

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 On 7/9/14 4:15 PM, Alexandre Rademaker wrote:
  A probably foolish question that I am saving for a long time! I
  normally use C-c C-a to add transaction in the ledger-mode. I know
  that this basically call the command ledger add. One pitfall is the
  payee names with spaces. The regex used to match the similar
  transactions fail to parse the input. Any idea?

 Hey, a question I can answer!
 Just use a backslash to quote the space.
 It took me a long time to figure this out.
 ^C^A09 My\ Space\ Filled\ Name

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Re: ledger-mode and payee's names

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:-) sure!!

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 I am not going to put that in the manual :)


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 Thank you. The answer is so obvious that I am embarrassed! :-)

 Best,
 Alexandre

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 On 7/9/14 4:15 PM, Alexandre Rademaker wrote:
  A probably foolish question that I am saving for a long time! I
  normally use C-c C-a to add transaction in the ledger-mode. I know
  that this basically call the command ledger add. One pitfall is the
  payee names with spaces. The regex used to match the similar
  transactions fail to parse the input. Any idea?

 Hey, a question I can answer!
 Just use a backslash to quote the space.
 It took me a long time to figure this out.
 ^C^A09 My\ Space\ Filled\ Name

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Taxes

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Sorry for this probably silly question but I didn't find any info in the docs.

I need to add an automatic post about the tax that I pay each time that I use 
my credit card for international purchases. If I buy in Brazilian Reais, no 
tax, but if I buy something in dollars or euros, I have to pay 6.38% of tax. I 
could register one transaction per statement (summing up the total amount of 
tax that I payed for all international purchases in that statement)  or I could 
register the tax amount per entry (purchase). I prefer the second one. Any idea?

Automatic transaction is the only way to go? Can I have on post relative to the 
amount of the transaction? Can automatic transaction be fired only when 
specific currency was used in a specific account?

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add transaction in the new ledger-mode

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Hello All,

In the new ledger mode, the C-c C-a (add-transaction) is adding the 
transaction always in the end of the file. Does anyone know how to make it 
add the transactions in the right place of the file? 

Best,
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Re: add transaction in the new ledger-mode

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In my case, none! I am using in all transactions what I think is the
default, /MM/DD, right?

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 Please tell me what date-format you have set in your .ledgerrc.

 Please pull the latest from Master.  There veeseveral aes since April 20.

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM, John Rakestraw jo...@johnrakestraw.com 
 wrote:

 In the new ledger mode, the C-c C-a (add-transaction) is adding the
 transaction always in the end of the file. Does anyone know how to make it
 add the transactions in the right place of the file?


 My experience is slightly different -- new entries with today's date or
 later are consistently added after the first entry for the 21st of the
 current month. Other weirdness:

 - An entry dated 2013/04/30 just now landed after entries dated 2013/05/08.
 - An entry dated 2013/04/08 just now landed after entries dated 2013/04/20.

 GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 2013-04-21
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Re: add transaction in the new ledger-mode

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No. The only directive that I am using is the

D R$ 1,000.00

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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you using Y year directives at all?

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 That should be the default.  I will look into what is happening.  I
 don't have this problem at all.

 Craig

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
 aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
 In my case, none! I am using in all transactions what I think is the
 default, /MM/DD, right?

 Best,

 Alexandre Rademaker
 http://arademaker.github.com/


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 Please tell me what date-format you have set in your .ledgerrc.

 Please pull the latest from Master.  There veeseveral aes since April 20.

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM, John Rakestraw jo...@johnrakestraw.com 
 wrote:

 In the new ledger mode, the C-c C-a (add-transaction) is adding the
 transaction always in the end of the file. Does anyone know how to make 
 it
 add the transactions in the right place of the file?


 My experience is slightly different -- new entries with today's date or
 later are consistently added after the first entry for the 21st of the
 current month. Other weirdness:

 - An entry dated 2013/04/30 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/05/08.
 - An entry dated 2013/04/08 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/04/20.

 GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 
 2013-04-21
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 I last updated ldg*.el April 20.

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Re: add transaction in the new ledger-mode

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Craig,

Sure, I will do it in the end of the day, right?  thank you very much
for all your contribution! the ledger-mode is a fantastic piece of
code!

Best.

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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks John,  I thought maybe a broken REGEX that I fixed last week
 would have fixed it.  I will keep trying to reproduce the three
 problems reported here.  Alexandre, could you log this in Bugzilla?

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:23 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you using Y year directives at all?

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 That should be the default.  I will look into what is happening.  I
 don't have this problem at all.

 Craig

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
 aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
 In my case, none! I am using in all transactions what I think is the
 default, /MM/DD, right?

 Best,

 Alexandre Rademaker
 http://arademaker.github.com/


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please tell me what date-format you have set in your .ledgerrc.

 Please pull the latest from Master.  There veeseveral aes since April 20.

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM, John Rakestraw jo...@johnrakestraw.com 
 wrote:

 In the new ledger mode, the C-c C-a (add-transaction) is adding the
 transaction always in the end of the file. Does anyone know how to make 
 it
 add the transactions in the right place of the file?


 My experience is slightly different -- new entries with today's date or
 later are consistently added after the first entry for the 21st of the
 current month. Other weirdness:

 - An entry dated 2013/04/30 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/05/08.
 - An entry dated 2013/04/08 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/04/20.

 GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 
 2013-04-21
 on wani09, modified by Debian

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Re: add transaction in the new ledger-mode

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In my case, doesn't matter where the pointer is. The steps are:

1. I type C-c C-a
2. Minibuffer shows Transaction: 2013/05/
3. I complete with the day, name and value 02 Test R$1 and hit RETURN.
4. Yes. As you said, the transaction is added in the end of the buffer, always.

I am running on Mac OS 10.8.3 Emacs 24.2 with the last version of
ledger-mode. I have just made a git pull.

Best,

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 OK,  this has me stumped.  Please tell me exactly what key strokes you
 are using to cause this.  Shoulbe something like
 C-c C-a

 Minibuffer shows Transaction: 2013/05/

 You type 01 Test 45

 And the xact goes in the wrong place.

 Thanks for the kind words.

 Craig

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
 aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
 No. The only directive that I am using is the

 D R$ 1,000.00

 Best,

 Alexandre Rademaker
 http://arademaker.github.com/


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you using Y year directives at all?

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 That should be the default.  I will look into what is happening.  I
 don't have this problem at all.

 Craig

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
 aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
 In my case, none! I am using in all transactions what I think is the
 default, /MM/DD, right?

 Best,

 Alexandre Rademaker
 http://arademaker.github.com/


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 Please tell me what date-format you have set in your .ledgerrc.

 Please pull the latest from Master.  There veeseveral aes since April 20.

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM, John Rakestraw 
 jo...@johnrakestraw.com wrote:

 In the new ledger mode, the C-c C-a (add-transaction) is adding the
 transaction always in the end of the file. Does anyone know how to 
 make it
 add the transactions in the right place of the file?


 My experience is slightly different -- new entries with today's date or
 later are consistently added after the first entry for the 21st of the
 current month. Other weirdness:

 - An entry dated 2013/04/30 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/05/08.
 - An entry dated 2013/04/08 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/04/20.

 GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 
 2013-04-21
 on wani09, modified by Debian

 I last updated ldg*.el April 20.

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Re: add transaction in the new ledger-mode

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Craig,

My local git points to git://github.com/ledger/ledger.git! I have just
made a pull and nothing changed!

urca:ledger arademaker$ cat .git/config
[core]
repositoryformatversion = 0
filemode = true
bare = false
logallrefupdates = true
ignorecase = true
[remote origin]
fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
url = git://github.com/ledger/ledger.git
[branch next]
remote = origin
merge = refs/heads/next
[submodule lib/utfcpp]
url = http://github.com/ledger/utfcpp.git

Best,

Alexandre Rademaker
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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 I think I have found it.  It was depending on transactions having
 codes, like check numbers or (POS) or (ONL), which I personally use
 extensively.  I have fixed that and pushed a change to Master.  Pull
 it and let me know how it works.

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 OK,  this has me stumped.  Please tell me exactly what key strokes you
 are using to cause this.  Shoulbe something like
 C-c C-a

 Minibuffer shows Transaction: 2013/05/

 You type 01 Test 45

 And the xact goes in the wrong place.

 Thanks for the kind words.

 Craig

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
 aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
 No. The only directive that I am using is the

 D R$ 1,000.00

 Best,

 Alexandre Rademaker
 http://arademaker.github.com/


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Are you using Y year directives at all?

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 That should be the default.  I will look into what is happening.  I
 don't have this problem at all.

 Craig

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
 aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
 In my case, none! I am using in all transactions what I think is the
 default, /MM/DD, right?

 Best,

 Alexandre Rademaker
 http://arademaker.github.com/


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Please tell me what date-format you have set in your .ledgerrc.

 Please pull the latest from Master.  There veeseveral aes since April 
 20.

 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM, John Rakestraw 
 jo...@johnrakestraw.com wrote:

 In the new ledger mode, the C-c C-a (add-transaction) is adding the
 transaction always in the end of the file. Does anyone know how to 
 make it
 add the transactions in the right place of the file?


 My experience is slightly different -- new entries with today's date or
 later are consistently added after the first entry for the 21st of the
 current month. Other weirdness:

 - An entry dated 2013/04/30 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/05/08.
 - An entry dated 2013/04/08 just now landed after entries dated 
 2013/04/20.

 GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of 
 2013-04-21
 on wani09, modified by Debian

 I last updated ldg*.el April 20.

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Re: add transaction in the new ledger-mode

[Alexandre Rademaker]

What a shame! You were (as always) right! I was pointing to next!! Now
it is working!! Transaction added in the right place!! Thank you my
ELisp/Emacs hero! :-)

Best,

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On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 Looks like you are grabbing next please point to master
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 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:27 AM, Alexandre Rademaker aradema...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Craig,

 My local git points to git://github.com/ledger/ledger.git! I have just
 made a pull and nothing changed!

 urca:ledger arademaker$ cat .git/config
 [core]
 repositoryformatversion = 0
 filemode = true
 bare = false
 logallrefupdates = true
 ignorecase = true
 [remote origin]
 fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*
 url = git://github.com/ledger/ledger.git
 [branch next]
 remote = origin
 merge = refs/heads/next
 [submodule lib/utfcpp]
 url = http://github.com/ledger/utfcpp.git

 Best,

 Alexandre Rademaker
 http://arademaker.github.com/


 On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
  I think I have found it. It was depending on transactions having
  codes, like check numbers or (POS) or (ONL), which I personally use
  extensively. I have fixed that and pushed a change to Master. Pull
  it and let me know how it works.
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:29 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
  OK, this has me stumped. Please tell me exactly what key strokes you
  are using to cause this. Shoulbe something like
  C-c C-a
 
  Minibuffer shows Transaction: 2013/05/
 
  You type 01 Test 45
 
  And the xact goes in the wrong place.
 
  Thanks for the kind words.
 
  Craig
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
  aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
  No. The only directive that I am using is the
 
  D R$ 1,000.00
 
  Best,
 
  Alexandre Rademaker
  http://arademaker.github.com/
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Are you using Y year directives at all?
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:17 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  That should be the default. I will look into what is happening. I
  don't have this problem at all.
 
  Craig
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:55 AM, Alexandre Rademaker
  aradema...@gmail.com wrote:
  In my case, none! I am using in all transactions what I think is
  the
  default, /MM/DD, right?
 
  Best,
 
  Alexandre Rademaker
  http://arademaker.github.com/
 
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com
  wrote:
  Please tell me what date-format you have set in your .ledgerrc.
 
  Please pull the latest from Master. There veeseveral aes since
  April 20.
 
  On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 7:15 AM, John Rakestraw
  jo...@johnrakestraw.com wrote:
 
  In the new ledger mode, the C-c C-a (add-transaction) is adding
  the
  transaction always in the end of the file. Does anyone know how
  to make it
  add the transactions in the right place of the file?
 
 
  My experience is slightly different -- new entries with today's
  date or
  later are consistently added after the first entry for the 21st
  of the
  current month. Other weirdness:
 
  - An entry dated 2013/04/30 just now landed after entries dated
  2013/05/08.
  - An entry dated 2013/04/08 just now landed after entries dated
  2013/04/20.
 
  GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2) of
  2013-04-21
  on wani09, modified by Debian
 
  I last updated ldg*.el April 20.
 
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Re: New EMACS Mode ready for prime time time?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Sorry Craig! But reading again the group's emails I couldn't find any 
information about the need of esh-util and esh-arg! The documentation doesn't 
mention it either. Nevertheless, I my case, without theses packages ledger mode 
does not work.

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On 16/02/2013, at 19:33, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:

 You've missed a lot since Oct 19 last year!
 

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Re: Separate group for Ledger Mode?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

1+ vote to maintain one group only! 

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Re: New EMACS Mode ready for prime time time?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

It looks like we do need to add 

(require 'esh-util)
(require 'esh-arg)

In the .emacs to avoid the Symbol's function definition is void: 
eshell-parse-arguments error, right? BTW, the package is esh-arg, not 
esh-args!! 

Best,
Alexandre

On Friday, October 19, 2012 5:21:40 PM UTC-3, Craig Earls wrote:

 Yes thats the error, if I require esh-util and esh-args in my .emacs 
 equivalent it pushes the error further into the ledger lisp code.  



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Re: default values format

[Alexandre Rademaker]

https://github.com/jwiegley/ledger/issues/71

Issue opened!

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On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 7:58 PM, John Wiegley jo...@newartisans.com wrote:
 Alexandre Rademaker aradema...@gmail.com writes:

 In ledger 2.X using Emacs, when I enter C-C C-A to add an entry, Ledger
 respect the format of the value that I entered.  That is, if I put

 2012/07/18 SOMEONE SOMEACCOUNT 12.00 OTHERACCOUNT

 The new entry will have the amount as 12.00. In Ledger 3.X, the value is
 format as 12 only, removing the .00. How can I avoid that behavior?  I
 tried the directive D in the journal file without success.

 This sounds like a bug to me!

 John

default values format

[Alexandre Rademaker]

In ledger 2.X using Emacs, when I enter C-C C-A to add an entry, Ledger 
respect the format of the value that I entered.  That is, if I put 

2012/07/18 SOMEONE SOMEACCOUNT 12.00 OTHERACCOUNT

The new entry will have the amount as 12.00. In Ledger 3.X, the value is 
format as 12 only, removing the .00. How can I avoid that behavior?  I 
tried the directive D in the journal file without success.

Best,
Alexandre

Re: Templating for more complicated reports?

[Alexandre Rademaker]

XML: +1 vote

What ever you decide, please don't remove the command emacs that output S-EXP.

Best,

Alexandre Rademaker
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On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 2:05 PM, Russell Adams
rlad...@adamsinfoserv.com wrote:
 On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 09:19:09AM -0700, Zack Williams wrote:
 In light of recent discussions, I've been thinking about ways to
 generate more complex documents or reports with ledger.

 In most languages, this is done by creating a templating or document
 embedding method, where data is injected next to arbitrary content,
 ranging from a simple mail merge to more complex behaviors.

 For sharing's sake, I've attached the perl script I use to create
 expense reports from Ledger data in Latex. It creates several tables
 of summaries, using a Ledger custom output format to give me data I
 can quickly parse.

 It would take me time I can't spare at the moment to create a sample
 dataset and example report.

 There seem to be 3 different ways that could be pursued for this:

  - Come up with a ledger specific templating engine, building on
 existing work.

 Violates KISS. I couldn't see a simple template performing more
 complex reporting and summaries.

  - Use the new python functionality to implement similar functionality
 with one of python's templating engines (mako, evoque, etc.)

 This is a good idea. Using a python program that can interface to
 Ledger to get data, and then perform custom business logic and pass it
 on to a template engine would rock. That said, my perl script isn't
 that different, except I'm calling Ledger via exec and pulling the
 STDOUT in and parsing it from a custom output format (~ delimited).

  - Change XML output from it's current form (which is similar to bal
 and reg and is pretty flat) to be more of an output filter that wraps
 arbitrary queries and other output, then use XSLT or other XML tools
 to fill templates.

 You said XML. -1

 Great discussion points though.

Re: discussion of external tools for more complete accounting systems.

[Alexandre Rademaker]

On 14/05/2012, at 19:27, Zack Williams zdw...@gmail.com wrote:
 Invoicing isn't an accounting task - it's a document generation task.
 
 My solution to the above problem was a few rake scripts, some PDF
 generation code for invoices, and a preprocessor that takes my own
 tag-augmented version of markdown and does things like time math for
 counting hours, etc. . My output formats are ledger files, PDF
 invoices, and various other reports.  Everything is text kept in
 version control.
 
 I haven't posted my workflow tools yet as they're extremely rough
 around the edges, but I intend to when I get it cleaned up.
 
 - Zack

Please Zack, your scripts would be very useful as they are right now. Please 
consider put them in a public repo if it is possible...

Alexandre

Re: New option: --time-report

[Alexandre Rademaker]

The problem is not the processor, is the language and the missing of a REPL! :-)

Back to Lisp port?!  :-)

Alexandre Rademaker
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On 14/03/2012, at 08:16, Jim Robinson jim.robin...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Tuesday, March 13, 2012 9:38:30 PM UTC-7, John Wiegley wrote:
 I tried to go to bed, failed, got out of the bed at 7am, crawled downstairs,
 implemented select queries, came back up and crashed.  I think it took about 3
 hours to implement, which shows you how well structured Ledger has become
 internally that I was able to create this feature almost entirely within a
 single file (select.cc), not having to munge any of the rest of the code.
 
 If anything, what slows me down is C++ compile times, since it takes 2-3
 minutes to build after every header file change, generally.  I'm looking
 forward to upgrading my 8-core Mac Pro to the Ivy Bridge platform sometime in
 the next year.
 
 BTW - My company (boostpro.com) does C++ consulting services, if anyone is
 ever looking to hire a mad coder. ;)
 
 John
 
 Well that's pretty amazing (on multiple counts).   I'm going to go and build
 the latest branch of next and play around with select, it looks as though it's
 an effective replacement to a number of aggregating shell+awk scripts I
 currently use.
 
 As a random aside, maybe you'd be interesting in looking  at 
 http://golang.org/, I
 recall that of the reasons authors cited for writing yet another programming 
 language
 is that they were sick of the multi-hour C++ recompile times!
 
 Jim
 

Re: A word on Ledger structure

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Hello John,

Many thanks for this email. Does cl-ledger (lisp version) has similar
architecture? What are the differences? I don't know how many of the
ledger's users are programmers but making Ledger's architecture more
transparent will, for sure, help people understand and contribute to
ledger.

Best,

Alexandre Rademaker
http://arademaker.github.com/



On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 2:45 AM, John Wiegley jwieg...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ledger is developed as a tiered set of functionality, where lower tiers no
 nothing about the higher tiers.  In fact, I build multiple libraries during
 the process, and link unit tests to these libraries, so that it is a link
 error for a lower tier to violate this modularity.

 Those tiers are:

  - Utility code

   There's lots of general utility in Ledger for doing time parsing, using
   Boost.Regex, error handling, etc.  It's all done in a way that can be
   reused in other projects as needed.

  - Commoditized Amounts (amount_t, commodity_t and friends)

   An numerical abstraction combining multi-precision rational numbers (via
   GMP) with commodities.  These structures can be manipulated like regular
   numbers in either C++ or Python (as Amount objects).

  - Commodity Pool

   Commodities are all owned by a commodity pool, so that future parsing of
   amounts can link to the same commodity and established a consistent price
   history and record of formatting details.

  - Balances

   Adds the concept of multiple amounts with varying commodities.  Supports
   simple arithmetic, and multiplication and division with non-commoditized
   values.

  - Price history

   Amounts have prices, and these are kept in a data graph which the amount
   code itself is only dimly aware of (there's three points of access so an
   amount can query its revalued price on a given date).

  - Values

   Often the higher layers in Ledger don't care if something is an amount or a
   balance, they just want to add stuff to it or print it.  For this, I
   created a type-erasure class, value_t/Value, into which many things can be
   stuffed and then operated on.  They can contain amounts, balances, dates,
   strings, etc.  If you try to apply an operation between two values that
   makes no sense (like dividing an amount by a balance), an error occurs at
   runtime, rather than at compile-time (as would happen if you actually tried
   to divide an amount_t by a balance_t).

   This is the core data type for the value expression language.

  - Value expressions

   The next layer up adds functions and operators around the Value concept.
   This lets you apply transformations and tests to Values at runtime without
   having to bake it into C++.  The set of functions available is defined by
   each object type in Ledger (posts, accounts, transactions, etc.), though
   the core engine knows nothing about these.  At its base, it only knows how
   to apply operators to values, and how to pass them to and receive them from
   functions.

  - Query expressions

   Expressions can be onerous to type at the command-line, so there's a
   shorthand for reporting called query expressions.  These add no
   functionality of there own, but are purely translated from the input string
   (cash) down to the corresponding value expression (account =~ /cash/).
   This is a convenience layer.

  - Format strings

   Format strings let you interpolate value expressions into string, with the
   requirement that any interpolated value have a string representation.
   Really all this does is calculate the value expression in the current
   report context, call the resulting value's to_string() method, and stuffs
   the result into the output string.  It also provides printf-like behavior,
   such as min/max width, right/left justification, etc.

  - Journal items

   Next is a base type shared by anything that can appear in a journal: an
   item_t.  It contains details common to all such parsed entities, like what
   file and line it was found on, etc.

  - Journal posts

   The most numerous object found in a Journal, postings are a type of item
   that contain an account, an amount, a cost, and metadata.  There are some
   other complications, like the account can be marked virtual, the amount
   could be an expression, etc.

  - Journal transactions

   Postings are owned by transactions, always.  This subclass of item_t knows
   about the date, the payee, etc.  If a date or metadata tag is requested
   from a posting and it doesn't have that information, the transaction is
   queried to see if it can provide it.

  - Journal accounts

   Postings are also shared by accounts, though the actual memory is managed
   by the transaction.  Each account knows all the postings within it, but
   contains relatively little information of its own.

  - The Journal object

   Finally, all transactions with their postings, and all accounts, are owned
   by a journal_t object.  This is the go-to object for querying ad reporting

Re: Simplified Python importing

[Alexandre Rademaker]

I am afraid that Ledger has began to be more complex than necessary! Sure we 
really need this feature? The manual has now more than 100 pages! 

Please, that is just one opinion open for discussion.

Best,
Alexandre


On Mar 6, 2012, at 5:50 PM, John Wiegley wrote:

 Simon Michael simon-jbxitmbj2llqt0dzr+a...@public.gmane.org writes:

 On 3/6/12 2:42 AM, John Wiegley wrote:
 Make sure to pass --python to acprep builds to get this support.  It is not
 on by default for 3.0, but it will be for 3.1 onwards.

 Boo! -1 for tantalising us with carrots. If this is working, it'd be much
 better to have it it the coming release so people can rely on it and use it.

Oh, it will be in the release!  It's just not on by default.  End users will
have to pass --enable-python to the configure script.  It's a beta feature
right now.

John

Re: [docs] org mode

[Alexandre Rademaker]

I do use both org mode and ledger mode but I do not know what you mean by
using both together.

Alexandre

On Tuesday, October 25, 2011, Craig Earls ender...@gmail.com wrote:
 If anyone is using the org mode could you shoot me a line?  I have some
questions about how you use it with ledger.

 --
 Craig, Corona De Tucson, AZ
 enderw88.wordpress.com


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Re: ledger and currency format in entry command

[Alexandre Rademaker]

Hello Guys,

Since my last update, the command entry now produces the wrong entry value 
regardless what decimal separator (comma or dot) I use.

$ ledger -f BR01.dat entry 05/13 Salsa 12.00 Cash

2011/05/13 Salsalito
Expenses:Restaurante   1.200
Assets:Cash  

$ ledger -f BR01.dat entry 05/13 Salsa 12,00 Cash

2011/05/13 Salsalito
Expenses:Restaurante   1.200
Assets:Cash  

Any idea?

Cheers,
Alexandre

ledger and currency format in entry command

[Alexandre Rademaker]

OK. My problem is not with ledger mode, but with ledger entry command. If I 
omit the commodity in the entry command the dot is recognized as thousands 
separator rather than decimal separator:

$ ledger -f BR01.dat entry 05/13 Salsa Resta 12.00 Cash

2011/05/13 Salsalito
Expenses:Restaurante   1.200
Assets:Cash

$ ledger -f BR01.dat entry 05/13 Salsa Resta 12,00 Cash

2011/05/13 Salsalito
Expenses:Restaurante   12,00
Assets:Cash


But the question is why is ledger using comma as default decimal separator 
if I have in my ledger file BR01.dat the line:

D $1,000.00

Any idea?