Re: [LU] Max wober

2023-01-03 Thread Kevin Lewis via Leedslist
Hi Dave, Yes it does not add up in my mind either. If we need a left back, then sign one. If the current set of Centre Backs aren’t good enough, then why give 2 of them new contracts at a time when the other 2 appear to be first choice. He may prove to be an upgrade in both roles but it doesn’t

[LU] Max wober

2023-01-03 Thread nattan--- via Leedslist
Will wait to see him play a few times before making an assessment but it does seem underwhelming at this point , none of the fan sites seem excited. It is unclear if he is a centre back who has recently been converted to left back , in the same way we have done with Struik , or a genuine left

[LU] Max Gradel

2022-03-29 Thread nattan--- via Leedslist
 Good to see Max starting for Ivory Coast v England. Top player for us - apart from his sending off ( though with hindsight that made the result even better) ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-18 Thread Joe Skinner
I think, in Smith's specific case - he was developed, not bought so no 3rd party 'owned' him or his registration as they did with Dacourt, for example. We may have exaggerated the book value of players (Kewell for example - his transfer fee went to his arsehole of an agent, anyway!) but that

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-18 Thread MarkBursa
I don't think that the stadium should be a place for car salesman or Jehovah's Witness conferences, as per Bates and his 'diversified income stream' shit. OK, so just leave that massive bricks-and-mortar asset standing unused for 340 days of the year. Who cares if car dealers or crazy

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-18 Thread Ian Murray
I really cba getting into this with you any further. We disagree, and I don't want to get into a flame war with you. It's boring - like you. Sent from my iPhone On 18 Dec 2013, at 23:33, markbu...@aol.com wrote: I don't think that the stadium should be a place for car salesman or

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-18 Thread Jeremy Adams
Can somebody actually say something about Max Gradel in this thread? I keep clicking on it only to find an endlessly boring argument. Thanks Jeremy From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:37:16 +0800 To: markbu...@aol.com CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Max

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-18 Thread Ian Murray
Gradel in this thread? I keep clicking on it only to find an endlessly boring argument. Thanks Jeremy From: ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 23:37:16 +0800 To: markbu...@aol.com CC: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel I really cba getting into this with you

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-18 Thread Richard Naef
on loan YES, purchase NO. ttfn Richard Triumph Computer Services 01273 505214 07974870424 -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Adams Sent: 18 December 2013 16:50 To: Leeds List Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel Can

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-18 Thread Michael Gardiner
What I was remembering was that the hocking happened in credit document covenants that covered ALL players, not just ones purchased. Like I said, though, it was a long time ago and I could very easily be wrong. Michael A. Gardiner LAW OFFICES OF MICHAEL A. GARDINER 110 West “A” Street, Suite

[LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Phill Shields
Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media speculation. I know we need a winger but I have really mixed feelings about this. In my view in one of the biggest games in our long history Gradel lost the plot and almost cost us promotion. Add to that his

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Richard Walker
Phill, With you on this one. On Tuesday, 17 December 2013, 12:41, Phill Shields phillshie...@hotmail.com wrote: Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media speculation. I know we need a winger but I have really mixed feelings about this. In my view

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Richard Naef
option for me. ttfn Richard Triumph Computer Services 01273 505214 07974870424 -Original Message- From: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org [mailto:leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org] On Behalf Of Phill Shields Sent: 17 December 2013 12:42 To: leedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] Max Gradel Seems

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Paul Cundell
Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media speculation. If it is more than media speculation is it not just an agent trick for an improved contract? He is highly thought of at St Etienne who are French First Division and its World Cup season, why would he

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread nat...@sky.com
Difficult one for me this, Max, along with Beckford, is my favourite player post first relegation, and IF he can play like he did it would be a real coup. Having said that he did leave us (although it was to better himself and his career, albeit the timing was awful) Add to that the fact that

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Phill Shields
personally am not bothered about having him back. MOT Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel To: phillshie...@hotmail.com; leedslist@gn.apc.org From: p...@cundell.com Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:53:21 + Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread matt
Message- From: Phill Shields phillshie...@hotmail.com Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 12:41:46 To: leedslist@gn.apc.orgleedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: [LU] Max Gradel Seems that us being linked with bringing back Gradel is more than just media speculation. I know we

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread matt
...@hotmail.com Sender: leedslist-boun...@gn.apc.org Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 13:05:48 To: p...@cundell.comp...@cundell.com; leedslist@gn.apc.orgleedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel You may be right about his agent being behind this Paul. Apparently his contract with St Etienne expires

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Ian Murray
Disagree entirely. He fucked off Bates and the selling club we were. He needs to go where the money is for his family and I would much rather our 'stars' go abroad than, say, to scum (like Smith - who many Unfathomably still laud). He earned promotion with his performances and was entitled to

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread MarkBursa
say, to scum (like Smith - who many Unfathomably still laud). It's pretty fathomable if you look at the facts at the time. M ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe, email

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread John Boocock
Good job Thirkers aint here or we'd be re-signing some outlandish Welsh bloke who played alongside Big John in the 50s :-) Sent from my BlackBerry Arsebook ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options:

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Ian Murray
Facts as stated by whom? I see opinion and statements from people with an interest - I don't see objective facts. The only objective fact is we went down and he decided to sign for them. Our fans were already at a low ebb and definitely did not need that. You think he saved the club?

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread MarkBursa
OK, run through the alternatives to selling Smith to the only club that tabled an offer that got him off the payroll and helped bail out the sinking ship with £7m? M In a message dated 17/12/2013 13:22:56 GMT Standard Time, ianjamesmur...@hotmail.com writes: Facts as stated by

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Ian Murray
Where is this info from? Lorimer? Same guy who said Howson had to go, Grayson had to go etc etc. I just don't buy it - sorry but other teams were in for him. The ship was sunk anyway and if he was such a hero he would have deferred wages. Sent from my iPhone On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:33,

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread MarkBursa
It's what happened at the time. No other teams were in for him with £7m. No other teams were in for him without expecting us to contribute to his wages. It was not his decision to go. The club sold him. He was entitled to a loyalty bonus, which he waived. Do you seriously expect

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Errand Fivefold
Harold Williams? Verner tHe LiTtLe YeLlOw DaFfOdIl @}-,-'-- From: John Boocock j...@boocock.net To: leeds list leedslist@gn.apc.org Sent: Tuesday, 17 December 2013, 13:23 Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel   Good job Thirkers aint here or we'd be re-signing

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Ian Murray
I'm not a millionaire but yes I would if I professed to love my employer. It's not a normal job. Mark, you don't know anything about the ins and outs of the deal. You only know what people with an interest have said in the press. Sent from my iPhone On 17 Dec 2013, at 21:41, markbu...@aol.com

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread MarkBursa
But there was no option for Smith to stay. ManU offered £7m for him. Under what circumstances would the management of a failing business have refused that? What Smith said was irrelevant. He had no option to stay, even playing for nothing. I have a pretty good idea about the deal. What

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Ian Murray
No you don't have any idea about the deal - only what you have read publicised by people with an interest in it. Anyway, cba, even I find this boring and I'm sure other listers do. There's no point in arguing - neither of us will change our minds. I will say this though, you were a supporter

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread john
Oi you two, this is not good enough, neither of you have slagged off me and Rick yet. Call this a quality debate? Minnows Betty PS surely it was Smith's agent who called the shots, Ridsdale wouldn't have recognised Smith if he'd bumped into him in Sainsburys. (They do have Sainsburys in

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread MarkBursa
Ian, why do you assume I simply get information from reading the papers? How do you know I don't have better sources? I remain a supporter of developing the stadium. It's pretty grim in many places compared to state-of-the-art premiership grounds. Don't you think we shouldn't have a decent

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Leeds List
Betty, they do have Sainsburys in Leeds - unfortunately Ridsdale was shopping in Waitrose with a Lidl credit card :-) Sent from my iPhone On 17 Dec 2013, at 19:17, j...@boocock.net wrote: Oi you two, this is not good enough, neither of you have slagged off me and Rick yet. Call this a

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Guy Thornton
...@cundell.com; leedslist@gn.apc.orgleedslist@gn.apc.org Subject: Re: [LU] Max Gradel You may be right about his agent being behind this Paul. Apparently his contract with St Etienne expires in 2015 so the timing would fit with your assessment. This time it feels to have more legs about it for me

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Ian Murray
I don't think that the stadium should be a place for car salesman or Jehovah's Witness conferences, as per Bates and his 'diversified income stream' shit. My Bates comment is completely accurate - you supported most of the projects he ran whilst sucking money out of the football club. You

Re: [LU] Max Gradel

2013-12-17 Thread Michael Gardiner
Its a long time ago and I don't remember all the details, but if I'm not mistaken that logic -- which would be spot on in most contexts -- did not apply at the time because all of the player contracts were hocked. In other words, that 7 million quid did nothing for us. It reduced a

Re: [LU] Max - planning to stick around?

2011-07-24 Thread Andrew Ewart
Just me being my usual glass half empty... :-) AndyE On 24 July 2011 21:26, Simon Austin simon...@auzsoft.net wrote: All of that was without a single supporting quote from anyone. But when he does give a quote saying he wants to stay... - Si

Re: [LU] Max - planning to stick around?

2011-07-24 Thread Paul Cundell
You have every right to be sceptical and pessimistic, I still remember the Sunday Mr interview from R£o saying he wanted to stay at Leeds - published on the day he gave Riddler his transfer request. Andy E wrote: Just me being my usual glass half empty... :-)

[LU] Max wins it all!

2011-05-02 Thread Richard Naef
http://www.teamtalk.com/leeds-united/6909991/Whites-star-lands-double-award well done Max. as for the last game of the season lets go all out to score even more goals so I reckon its time to try my patented 2-3-3-2 formation that worked so well in Premier League Manager 99; Kasper Naylor

[LU] Max!

2011-03-05 Thread Mark Pilling
yes! 1-0 lets take this one qpr lecicester good ding dong leicester/yokubu causing a threat my question, can someone remind me of the modern day chat room, as irc has been completely abandoned this season cheers ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and

[LU] Max

2011-03-05 Thread N If
so 100 chances (according to Eddie) so far..come on leeds, a 9-0 will give us the filip we need. Which B is to blame today? ___ Leedslist mailing list Info and options: http://mailman-new.greennet.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/leedslist To unsubscribe,