Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread einar
.Lots!

I actually thought we playd ok.  Clayton was probably the
best midfielder on display and made som of the so-called
wonderkids in Scum linup look average.  White was good,
and during a few periods we controlled the match.  We
created a few goalscoring opertuneties and limitet them to
very few.  Obviously there is a differance in finishing
skills between the two teams - and Owens 2 goals were no
short of excellent.  Typical Owen for the first goal -
touching the ball to the right path, surprising everybody
(possibly even himself) - and the second was a snap shot as
good as they get.  How he managed to get that power into
the shot without taking the time to swing his leg back I
don't know, but that is the differance between the quality
we can afford and the quality Scum posesses.

Yes - it was the Scum 2nd. team, but I am sure every single
Championship team would have loved to loan each and every
player Scum fielded yesterday.  The team we met yesterday
had enough quality to walk the league we are playing in.

So - a match that could have gone better and could have
gone a lot worse.  Would have loved to get a goal (how
could NUNEZ not score), but an ok performance against a
very offensive Scum reserve line-up.

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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Richard Walker
I thought we were poor for 60 minutes but then slightly improved with the 
introduction of the subs. 
 
Our defence was bad throughout - Owen and Giggs with a combined age of 103 just 
took the piss. 
 
I thought the game emphasised that Becchio is not an option - we had no link up 
play and no continuity through the team with him leading the line and we never 
got beyond their back 4. Playing Keogh on the left wing was a joke. Come on. 
Becchio is shit and we all know it. 
 
Sat in South East and was pretty unimpressed with the toe rags from Leeds that 
turned up for this game. 90 minutes of whos that dying on the runway etc .. I 
felt like going home after 10 mins. 
 
 

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.Lots!

I actually thought we playd ok.  Clayton was probably the
best midfielder on display and made som of the so-called
wonderkids in Scum linup look average.  White was good,
and during a few periods we controlled the match.  We
created a few goalscoring opertuneties and limitet them to
very few.  Obviously there is a differance in finishing
skills between the two teams - and Owens 2 goals were no
short of excellent.  Typical Owen for the first goal -
touching the ball to the right path, surprising everybody
(possibly even himself) - and the second was a snap shot as
good as they get.  How he managed to get that power into
the shot without taking the time to swing his leg back I
don't know, but that is the differance between the quality
we can afford and the quality Scum posesses.

Yes - it was the Scum 2nd. team, but I am sure every single
Championship team would have loved to loan each and every
player Scum fielded yesterday.  The team we met yesterday
had enough quality to walk the league we are playing in.

So - a match that could have gone better and could have
gone a lot worse.  Would have loved to get a goal (how
could NUNEZ not score), but an ok performance against a
very offensive Scum reserve line-up.

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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Kevin Lewis (RCUK SSC Ltd)
Rich, I'm amazed you didn't have at least one more observation :)
NO PACE in the team at all now that Gradel has gone.  In fact the 4-3-3 
(4-2-3-1, 4-5-1) or whatever it was disguised the fact that Gradel was the only 
player with pace, as he was always a threat when the ball was played in behind 
the defence.

Now he has gone, the opposition don't have to worry about that ball, so they 
can compress the game and the other Leeds players get less space.  There were 
many times last night, when Leeds put 10 or more passes together, but never 
looked a threat, because nobody was capable of making the run for the 'killer' 
ball that Clayton and Howson wer both looking for, and are both capable of.

McCormack has a good recent scoring record, but is a waste of space when out on 
the left, and Becchio is not a bad target man with a reasonable scoring record, 
but you do need at least the threat of pace.

Nunez is a bit quicker than McCormack, but less consistent.  What has happened 
to Lloyd Sam?  At least he is reasonably at home in the wide positions, 
although he too seems to prefer the right.

Difficult to measure just how bad Leeds were last night, the Brighton game will 
be a better measure.


KOT.





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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Richard Walker
Sorry - the whole game was poor for me. I was bored , pissed off and wish I 
hadn't spent £31. Once I heard Becchio was in the team I nearly went home. 
 
He's not a good target man. 

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Rich, I'm amazed you didn't have at least one more observation :)
NO PACE in the team at all now that Gradel has gone.  In fact the 4-3-3 
(4-2-3-1, 4-5-1) or whatever it was disguised the fact that Gradel was the only 
player with pace, as he was always a threat when the ball was played in behind 
the defence.

Now he has gone, the opposition don't have to worry about that ball, so they 
can compress the game and the other Leeds players get less space.  There were 
many times last night, when Leeds put 10 or more passes together, but never 
looked a threat, because nobody was capable of making the run for the 'killer' 
ball that Clayton and Howson wer both looking for, and are both capable of.

McCormack has a good recent scoring record, but is a waste of space when out on 
the left, and Becchio is not a bad target man with a reasonable scoring record, 
but you do need at least the threat of pace.

Nunez is a bit quicker than McCormack, but less consistent.  What has happened 
to Lloyd Sam?  At least he is reasonably at home in the wide positions, 
although he too seems to prefer the right.

Difficult to measure just how bad Leeds were last night, the Brighton game will 
be a better measure.


KOT.





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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread n...@6haroldplace.co.uk
last night was simply a difference in class - you can your last dollar that this
lot had been wound up by Fergie (he wasn't going to have another defeat at our
hands)and that they knew their jobs - their finishing was class (how good was
Giggs' goal - even accepting that the defending was poor.
 
Some Leeds fans don't have a grip on reality - were you really epexcting to beat
the second best team in Europe (or their reserves) FFS, we can't beat Ipswich.
 
I though Clayton, Howson and White did pretty well considering, Bromby was OK as
well - our three problems at the moment are defence; lack of pace throughout the
side; and Snodgrass - who had a shocking attitude last night, never mind the
barney with Bromby, what about all the times he left Lees to try and bring an
attack forward down the right in the second half while Snod was standing not
five yards from one of the C Forwards...he's good, but his head is up his arse
at the moment.
 
Oh and Becchio, he's not the Messiah, he's more your run of the mill carthorse -
didn't seem to cause their defence too much bother last night - for christ sake
they played with Berbatov at CHalf for the last 20 minutes.
 
Onwards to the south coast - this one matters much more.
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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread McWilliams, Brendan, VF-Group (bmcwill)
We should put a wager at our favourite online or local bookies that SG will not 
make Christmas and someone like Dave Jones will be in. 

I didn't even watch the game i.e. didn't even look for an internet feed such is 
my disillusionment with LUFC and on the whole football in general. Honest. 


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to some rich bloke as his plaything. Ground finished and Up to Premier
League level, three consecutive years of 'good books' showing a healthy
PL, cashflow etc. The 'global brand', the loyal following etc. etc. All
yours for £50M or therabouts  Bargain.
Forget promotion, forget relegation, enjoy the wins, suffer the defeats.
We've little or no option until cuddly Kenneth finally tops up his pension
for one last time.

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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Damian Walsh
From my optimistic perspective I have to believe that SG didn't want to
give it a go.because he has bigger fish to fry.

So don't push it lads, I don't want any injuries, any daft bookings and no
sendings off. We've nothing to win as well as nothing to lose

Onwards and upwards at Brighton anyone?

Damian ;)

On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 10:31 AM, Tim Leslie t...@3leafieldvillas.co.ukwrote:

 What really saddened me yesterday was this, 2 years ago we were a Legue 1
 team and went to Old Trafford ancd really 'gave it a go', we were
 organised, lively and up for a scrap.

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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread MarkBursa
 
Write this season off now. We're not going up, 
 
 
Not sure if you've looked at the table recently, but we're only two points  
off the playoffs. I wouldn't start writing off any championship season 
until the  end of February at the earliest. Better to peak later than earlier. 
Teams in the  bottom three on January 1 have been promoted.
 
 


 
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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Richard Naef

Oh and Becchio, he's not the Messiah, he's more your run of the mill
carthorse -
didn't seem to cause their defence too much bother last night - for
christ sake
they played with Berbatov at CHalf for the last 20 minutes.

No he's not the Messiah, but he's not a carthorse and is about as good as we 
have in the squad to lead the line. He's only just came back from a long lay 
off and by the way he went off after 52 minutes well before berbatov went into 
defence.

Scum played the last 10 mins with 10 men as well.

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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Tim Leslie
Dream on Mark! We've undeniably gone backwards from last season. We've
lost our player of the season and second top scorer (and only useful pace
player), lost 3 decent(ish) midfielders - one of which (despite me
thinking he's a cart horse!) is now holding down a starting role in the
Premier League, despite making changes STILL have a defence that is
incapable of ... errmm ... defending! Have brought in a 34 year old has
been as our midfield 'saviour', made no signings of positive intent. But
you continue to live the dream Mark, I don't wish to piss on anyones
bonfire, but the bigger picture tells me I'm probably leaning in the right
direction.
Only positives for me this season are White, Lonergan, Lees, Taylor and
Clayton. Will fit in well to our squad next season when our new sugar
daddy pumps £20M in to the team and we romp to the Championship title!!!


Write this season off now. We're not going up, 


 Not sure if you've looked at the table recently, but we're only two points
 off the playoffs. I wouldn't start writing off any championship season
 until the  end of February at the earliest. Better to peak later than
 earlier.
 Teams in the  bottom three on January 1 have been promoted.







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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread MarkBursa
 

I'm not dreaming. This is the reality of the championship. Put  together a 
decent run in February-March and a team can come from nowhere to make  the 
playoffs. Like Reading last season, or Blackpool the season before, or  
Palace under Dowie a few years ago, who were in a relegation place on January 1 
 
and ended up promoted via the playoffs.
 
Look around the league - very few of the big-spending clubs are performing  
either. Leicester/Ipswich have had as shaky a start as we have.
 
We've all got concerns about the current situation, but it's foolish to  
write off the season at this stage. 39 games to go!
 
 
Dream on Mark! We've undeniably gone backwards from last season.  We've
lost our player of the season and second top scorer (and only useful  pace
player), lost 3 decent(ish) midfielders - one of which (despite  me
thinking he's a cart horse!) is now holding down a starting role in  the
Premier League, despite making changes STILL have a defence that  is
incapable of ... errmm ... defending! Have brought in a 34 year old  has
been as our midfield 'saviour', made no signings of positive intent.  But
you continue to live the dream Mark, I don't wish to piss on  anyones
bonfire, but the bigger picture tells me I'm probably leaning in the  right
direction.
Only positives for me this season are White, Lonergan,  Lees, Taylor and
Clayton. Will fit in well to our squad next season when our  new sugar
daddy pumps £20M in to the team and we romp to the Championship  title!!!



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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Richard Walker
Bollocks , he was rubbish. Did fuck all 


From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
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Oh and Becchio, he's not the Messiah, he's more your run of the mill
carthorse -
didn't seem to cause their defence too much bother last night - for
christ sake
they played with Berbatov at CHalf for the last 20 minutes.

No he's not the Messiah, but he's not a carthorse and is about as good as we 
have in the squad to lead the line. He's only just came back from a long lay 
off and by the way he went off after 52 minutes well before berbatov went into 
defence.

Scum played the last 10 mins with 10 men as well.

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Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-21 Thread Dr. Michael Benjamin.
Can he be the messiahs donkey?
:-)

Sent from my iPhone. 
Dr Michael Benjamin. 
Community  Psychiatrist. 

On 21 Sep 2011, at 14:54, Richard Walker richleed...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Bollocks , he was rubbish. Did fuck all 
 
 
 From: Richard Naef rich...@triumph-computers.co.uk
 To: 'Leeds United E-Mail List' leedslist@gn.apc.org
 Sent: Wednesday, 21 September 2011, 10:52
 Subject: Re: [LU] Positive things about last night.
 
 
 Oh and Becchio, he's not the Messiah, he's more your run of the mill
 carthorse -
 didn't seem to cause their defence too much bother last night - for
 christ sake
 they played with Berbatov at CHalf for the last 20 minutes.
 
 No he's not the Messiah, but he's not a carthorse and is about as good as we 
 have in the squad to lead the line. He's only just came back from a long lay 
 off and by the way he went off after 52 minutes well before berbatov went 
 into defence.
 
 Scum played the last 10 mins with 10 men as well.
 
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[LU] Positive things about last night.

2011-09-20 Thread Robert Heath
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