Re: legacy site

2018-09-23 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
Printing and saving; could be a useful tool on other projects. Thanks Harvey

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:38 AM Harvey Matyas  wrote:

> I went to June 9th 2004.  I was able to navigate along a lot of the old
> website.  Some days and years will only have a single screen.
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:35 AM Harvey Matyas 
> wrote:
>
>> I think that I figured it out.
>> First go to https://archive.org/web/
>> Then type or paste http://legacywoodworking.com (where they ask you to
>> enter the web site)
>> You will then get a timeline in years (1999 to 2018 looking like a bar
>> chart)  with a calendar under it. (this is where I got confused).
>> When you place your mouse on a year, it turns yellow.  In my example I
>> click on the year 2000.
>> Your screen will flash (at lease mine did) if you then look at the
>> calendar, there will be blue dot on some of the days.
>> These are the days where there was data saved.  They are basically
>> snapshots.
>> I don't know if this will help.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 8:15 AM Harvey Matyas 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I tried the Wayback Machine.  I not familiar with the site but they
>>> claim that they have backup items since 1999 on Legacy.
>>> If anyone knows how to use it, they may be able to provide more
>>> information.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:57 AM Bawdsey64  wrote:
>>>
 ​
 Hi Richard

 As time passes things get deleted

 ​


 ​
 From: Richard Ellis
 Received: 23/09/2018 10:08:47 +01:00
 To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
 They can't even get that right,!!all the important bit are
 still under construction-I guess they always will be
 Richard

 On Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 6:46:21 PM UTC+1, legacy woodworking
 wrote:
 What are you looking for?  https://web.archive.org/web/
 20051210195342/http://legacywoodworking.com:80/techniques.cfm


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 From: "Patrick Salter" 
 To: "Legacy Ornamental Mills" 
 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 11:55:01 AM
 Subject: RE: legacy site

 Well, that was cool. Are there other pages? Was anyone able to save any
 others before Legacy stopped posting them?

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Re: My LOM collection and small journey

2018-08-31 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
So if one of the assembled gears has 4.5 pitch would the full set - 2 -
71/2 be absent the 4 1/2 ?

Were the gears assembled from Legacy or by the buyer ?

On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 3:27 PM Tracy Smith  wrote:

> The directional gears work for any pitch gears or Standard/Reduction
> gears.  Not sure if that is what you meant.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2018 at 11:52 AM 4 Jim Carpenter <
> carpenter.62...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Question on Pitch gears. Which pitch gears are part of the Left Hand
>> Spiral and the Reversing RH gear sets ?  Should those pitch gears also be a
>> part of the full set as duplicates ?
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 1:23 PM Tracy Smith  wrote:
>>
>>> Hello again Bill,
>>>
>>> The rotary table that looks a bit different is actually the same as the
>>> others.  It just hasn't had the board attached to it.  I is actually "brand
>>> new" in the box when I got it.  All the parts are still in bags.  I look
>>> forward to doing a project using it.
>>>
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 11:31 PM Bill Bulkeley 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 You certainly have a nice collection of LOMs there, I’m sure you will
 have no trouble finding new homes for the ones you don’t need. Looks like
 one of the rotary tables might be for the revo model it looks narrower than
 the others Richard might be interested if your selling it and if he doesn’t
 have one also rails too I know he wants to extend his revo



 Thank you for sharing, anything LOM related is welcome to share on the
 group I’m sure everyone agrees

 I look forward to more and all postings from you



 Bill







 *From:* legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:
 legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Tracy Smith
 *Sent:* Sunday, 26 August 2018 2:39 PM
 *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
 *Subject:* My LOM collection and small journey



 Hello everyone,



 I know I just joined the group and I hope you don't mind me sharing as
 there are not many around me who like this tool as much as I do.  As I
 mentioned before, just last year I finished my shop.  As I was looking at
 used tools in my area, I first discovered a LOM about one year ago.  I went
 and looked at the first one I saw, but it was just too much for me.  It
 would have definitely been one of the most expensive used tools I had ever
 purchased.  I read up all about these machines, watched tons of videos and
 learned as much as I could.  I really didn't know they were as old as they
 are.  Over the next couple of months I looked at 1 or 2 more in my area and
 it wasn't until I came across a 1500EXL for a great price that I decided to
 jump in.  That was in January of this year.



 As I started to learn how to use the machine a bit, I realized there
 were a few key gears missing.  Luckily I live relatively close to Legacy
 Woodworking and went down to talk to them about replacement parts.  Some
 parts you can still get but it was a bit pricey.  So I instead starting
 looking at more used machines in my area.  At this point I had been looking
 at LOMs for 4-5 months.  A 1000EXS came up in my area.  I spoke to the
 owner a few times.  It had many of the missing parts I needed so I bought
 it for parts.  It's in great shape, it included a router and I was able to
 fill in some gaps on my 1500.  I was feeling great.  Shortly after that, a
 900 came up for sale.  The owner had tried to sell it for a few months.  He
 was the original owner.  He had moved on to a CNC and hadn't used the 900
 for a couple years.  I told him I was mostly looking for parts and he gave
 me a great deal.  I didn't know what perfect condition it was in until I
 got it home and really looked at it.  It had a digital meeting, duplication
 kit, rotary table.  For the price, I was feeling super happy.



 WELL, just last month someone in my area was selling a 1200 with a
 Performance CNC upgrade on it.  I had to look at it.  After some
 negotiation and talking to my very supportive wife, I got it.  It had
 several parts left over after the CNC upgrade was made.  Just this last
 week I took the two day training class Legacy does for their CNCs. I know
 my machine is pretty out of date but the ideas are all the same and the
 software used to run it is also pretty much the same.  So I loved the class
 and the people at Legacy are great.  I've loved tinkering with my newest
 machine.



 I still have my Gazebo to build and am excited to show the group when
 it is done next year.



 Just tonight I think I figured out a way to mill long posts on my 1200
 without having to use parts from my other machines.  The parts was the my
 main reason for acquiring the 

Re: New Members and Moderation - Tracy

2018-08-28 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
Max - other buyers asking -please make contact - chas7...@att.net

On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 6:33 PM 4 Jim Carpenter 
wrote:

> mail box full - buyers making offers - 314-359-6064 Ron for Jim
> gears/indexes ?
>
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:12 AM MWF  wrote:
>
>> Hello Tracy,
>>
>> Thanks for the "intro".  You have come to the right place to get help and
>> to share your skills & knowledge.
>> If you provide us with the city/community where you live - you may find
>> there is a Group Member within a reasonable drive distance.
>>
>> You mentioned you may be turning the balusters on your Mill.  Give
>> thought to turning half with a clock-wise spiral and the other half with a
>> counter clock-wise spiral.  Then, when assembling each railing section
>> install clock-wise balusters on one half and counter clock-wise ones on the
>> the other half.  If you space them such that you have an odd number of them
>> on the railing you can make the center baluster a non-spiral - perhaps a
>> fluted or a simple tapered one.  Regarding the spacing between balusters,
>> keep in mind that most building codes require any "opening" (gap/spacing)
>> between balusters not exceed (or be less than) 4.0 inches.  For what it's
>> worth, there is no need for your balusters to be 4x4" stock (that's huge).
>> Most deck/proch/gazebo railings I encounter are the "standard" 2"x2" (or 1
>> 1/2" x 1 1/2").  Using the smaller size should save you a fair bit of cash
>> as well as being much easier to handle/install.
>>
>> Welcome to The Group.
>> Mac
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>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Tracy Smith
>> Sent: Aug 13, 2018 9:17 PM
>> To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: New Members and Moderation
>>
>> Thanks again everyone for the quick responses.  Just based on this
>> feedback, I think I need to correct a few things: slow down my router,
>> sharpen/clean more often, and be more patient in my cutting.  There have
>> been times when I'm definitely too aggressive.
>>
>> My gazebo project came about because I bought the LOM.  I like to build
>> stuff and the LOM gave me an opportunity to learn the tool and figure out
>> how to do something I don't know now.  My plan is for a 14.5' gazebo with
>> 1.5 overhang with a double roof.  I've attached a couple of my inspiration
>> pictures.  The side rails will be basically 6' or the distance between
>> centers of the posts will be 6'.  The side rail design was simply me
>> looking at a bunch of different gazebos, drawing out variations of what I
>> liked and asking my wife what she liked.  I've attached that drawing to see
>> the variations I was thinking about doing.  We've decided on the bottom
>> right rail.  The bottom support beam is a bit thicker and we both liked the
>> supporting center baluster.  The balusters are also spaced a bit further
>> apart.  The center baluster will be a transition baluster since there are
>> 4-5 different designs for the major posts.  The balusters are smaller
>> versions of the 6x6 posts.  All the balusters are from 4x4 redwood.  The
>> top of the side rails will be a two pieces of 2x6 redwood fastened together
>> to hold the balusters with some router or mill magic on them.  Nothing
>> special but it should look nice.  Since I am using different styles of
>> balusters, I really don't know how it will turn out.  It will either be
>> beautiful or a bit of a visual nightmare.  Oh well.  I'll have fun building
>> it.
>>
>> Last year I built a pergola just off my shop.  I worked on the design for
>> about 3 months off and on.  When I finally decided what I was going to do,
>> I bought "a pile of wood" and it took about 2 months to complete it.  I
>> really like how it turned out.  The last picture is the pergola.
>>
>> I've watched many of the Legacy how to videos and wanted a project to
>> learn how to do it.  I actually live pretty close to where they manufacture
>> their CNCs.  Great people and it is pretty cool to meet the people in the
>> videos.  Since I still feel like I'm hacking my way through things, I am by
>> no stretch an expert.  The rope twist is from a 2" bit with a 6" pitch.
>> The barley twist is a 2" bit with a single start.  The flute I kind of just
>> did what I thought looked nice.  I think it was a 1/2 inch core box using 6
>> equally spaced index positions.
>>
>> The 1500EXL worked great but was missing most of the gears.  I did buy a
>> new .25 gear set but instead of buying some of the few new replacement
>> parts, I've acquired a few machines that had the pieced I wanted and have a
>> bit of a collection now.  I do really enjoy working on this machine and I
>> want to learn how to do all it is capable of. I just wish I had a lot more
>> time for it.
>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Tracy
>> --
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>>
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 5:24 PM, Bill Bulkeley 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I find that a difficult question to 

Re: Definition Question Bowel/plate

2018-08-26 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
Here we go again, items name - expand our vocabulary !  My wife says all my
great new designs are "STUFF" and
she does so looking at the "ITEMS".  So post a picture of the platter,
plate, saucer, bowl or bucket will equal the best description already in a
dictionary ! I'm too d--- old to keep learning.

On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 12:08 AM Tim Krause  wrote:

> What a bunch of comedians in this circle!  It was a sincere question.  I'm
> pretty sure we have all had those moment when you start out making a plant
> stand and it turns into a pen.  The only person that will ever know will be
> the turner and those he jokes with.
>
> Turning has been turned into a bit of a cult level, very good
> observation.
>
> So I'm good with the items name being what the individual who makes the
> item gets to decide what it is.
>
> Thanks all!
>
> On Aug 22, 2018, at 5:32 PM, Patrick Salter  wrote:
>>
>> And if you go through the bottom you have a lamp shade!
>>
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Re: Design Kit

2018-08-26 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
Check your spam for my email - pictures and asking prices Bruce, haven't
heard back ?

On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 8:32 AM 'Bruce' via Legacy Ornamental Mills <
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> How much do you want for it and if I pay shipping would you consider
> shipping to the US.Thanks Bruce Wellard.
>
> On Saturday, August 25, 2018 at 2:23:03 AM UTC-5, Richard Ellis wrote:
>>
>> I have the Legacy Design kit, and have never used it- it came with my
>> Revo Craftsman which is very useful. Great tool.
>> A great pity that the designers at Legacy did not follow it up with
>> larger models on the same principle.
>> Back to the Design Kit , what use is it if I can't buy Magnate Cutters
>> here in the U.K.
>> Does any one want it, here in the U.K. only ? ? ?
>> Richard
>>
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Re: Design

2018-08-25 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
plane with several coats Valspar varnish - won't collect dust in all the
spirals !

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 4:19 AM Richard Ellis  wrote:

> Hi
>  I am about to make a High Stool for when I work on my Scroll Saw
> Legs 2 to 3 foot long out of 2 inch square wood -down to 1 1/2 "
> *Any good ideas* as to what shape an designs i:e flutes ,spirals taper
> etc.
> Look forward to hearing your thoughts!
> Richard
>
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Re: Definition Question Bowel/plate

2018-08-22 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
Or if the rim of a bowl cracks it can be turned into a plate !

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 6:25 PM Bill Bulkeley  wrote:

> A platter turns into a plate when you turn too much off the dia and turns
> into a bowl if you cut too deep :)
>
> Bill
>
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> Subject: Definition Question Bowel/plate
>
> When does a plate become a platter or turns into a bowl?
>
> -Tim
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Re: Definition Question Bowel/plate

2018-08-22 Thread Jim AKA Mattox
As defined by the American Institute of Measurements (AIM), a bowl is a
standard unit of measure equivalent to 3.75 cups (887.2059 ml.).

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> When does a plate become a platter or turns into a bowl?
>
> -Tim
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