RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Looks great Richard hopefully your next try wont cock up (cock up is a mistake
guys) the pattern almost looks raised rather than
Cut in i really like it
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2019 2:55 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the
Topic being discussed.)
Bill
This is a cock up I did last year on the Revo Rotary Table, practice should
make me perfect, That is if I practice enough!!??
It is 3 1/2 inch dia. Did not get it in the center and forgot one groove
Richard
On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 10:34:17 PM UTC, Va Oak wrote:
Curtis,
Thanks. EXELLENT article!
The article seems to show/instruct cutting this particular "Ribbon Twist" from
the top - not the side. I like the idea of tilting the router's base - to
produce the "special effect". Lots of possibilities there - by experimenting
with various amounts of "tilt". Maybe even making some passes with the tilt
towards the tailstock and then others tilting towards the headstock - all on
the same piece of stock.
Bill, were you referring to a somewhat different "ribbon twist"?
Mac
_
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-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 5:16 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the archives
Hello guys. here is the ribbon twist.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 4:43:53 PM EST, Bill Bulkeley
> wrote:
Yes on a ribbon twist spiral it won’t work from the top only from the side
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of
MWF
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 8:37 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
Bill,
No - I dd not know that.
Why will it matter/make a difference - top vs side?
Mac
_
_
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 4:17 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the side
not from the top right ?
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of
Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your gear
chart and select it
Bill (aussiman) yea its me :-)
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] On Behalf Of
Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 2:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi
On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some images ,many thanks for them. I noticed
one had a ribbon twist and owing to the fact that my good Wife has just bought
handles for the kitchen cabinets { expensive )
I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my Revo to have a go at making them ??
If replacements are needed
Richard
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are gone
that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not there so
many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did grab a
few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
Bill
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Re: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Ok Richard,For us "Colonists", what's a "cock up"? Can you post a few more photos - from other angles?Over here, that term could have a meaning I'm sure you did not mean.(Funny how the "same" language can have such differences.)Mac-Original Message-
From: Richard Ellis
Sent: Feb 18, 2019 10:54 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Bill This is a cock up I did last year on the Revo Rotary Table, practice should make me perfect, That is if I practice enough!!??It is 3 1/2 inch dia. Did not get it in the center and forgot one grooveRichardOn Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 10:34:17 PM UTC, Va Oak wrote:Curtis,Thanks. EXELLENT article!The article seems to show/instruct cutting this particular "Ribbon Twist" from the top - not the side. I like the idea of tilting the router's base - to produce the "special effect". Lots of possibilities there - by experimenting with various amounts of "tilt". Maybe even making some passes with the tilt towards the tailstock and then others tilting towards the headstock - all on the same piece of stock.Bill, were you referring to a somewhat different "ribbon twist"?Mac-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 5:16 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the archives
Hello guys. here is the ribbon twist.C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 4:43:53 PM EST, Bill Bulkeley <bulk...@mmnet.com.au> wrote:
Yes on a ribbon twist spiral it won’t work
from the top only from the side
Bill
From:
legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019
8:37 AM
To:
legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
Bill,
No - I dd not know that.
Why will it matter/make a difference - top
vs side?
Mac
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 4:17 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
By the way you do know
that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the side not from the top right
?
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019
7:49 AM
To:
legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
It depends on what pitch
you wish to make like any other spiral use your gear chart and select it
Bill
(aussiman) yea its me J
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019
2:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi
On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some
images ,many thanks for them. I noticed one had a ribbon twist and owing to the
fact that my good Wife has just bought handles for the kitchen cabinets {
expensive )
I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my
Revo to have a go at making them ?? If replacements are needed
Richard
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things
are gone that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not
there so many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did
grab a few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
Bill
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Re: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Bill
This is a cock up I did last year on the Revo Rotary Table, practice
should make me perfect, That is if I practice enough!!??
It is 3 1/2 inch dia. Did not get it in the center and forgot one groove
Richard
On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 10:34:17 PM UTC, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Curtis,
>
> Thanks. EXELLENT article!
> The article seems to show/instruct cutting this particular "Ribbon Twist"
> from the top - not the side. I like the idea of tilting the router's base
> - to produce the "special effect". Lots of possibilities there - by
> experimenting with various amounts of "tilt". Maybe even making some
> passes with the tilt towards the tailstock and then others tilting towards
> the headstock - all on the same piece of stock.
>
> Bill, were you referring to a somewhat different "ribbon twist"?
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
> Sent: Feb 17, 2019 5:16 PM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: the archives
>
> Hello guys. here is the ribbon twist.
> C.A.G.
>
> On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 4:43:53 PM EST, Bill Bulkeley <
> bulk...@mmnet.com.au > wrote:
>
>
> Yes on a ribbon twist spiral it won’t work from the top only from the side
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *MWF
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 8:37 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: the archives
>
>
>
> Bill,
>
> No - I dd not know that.
>
> Why will it matter/make a difference - top vs side?
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Bulkeley
> Sent: Feb 17, 2019 4:17 PM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the archives
>
>
> By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the
> side not from the top right ?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Bulkeley
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: the archives
>
>
>
> It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your
> gear chart and select it
>
>
>
> Bill (aussiman) yea its me J
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of
> *Richard
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 2:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Re: the archives
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some images ,many thanks for them. I
> noticed one had a ribbon twist and owing to the fact that my good Wife has
> just bought handles for the kitchen cabinets { expensive )
>
> I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my Revo to have a go at making
> them ?? If replacements are needed
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>
> I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are
> gone that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not
> there so many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i
> did grab a few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
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RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Your all welcome all I ask is post pictures for us all of any think you make on
the legacys
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 8:27 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the
Topic being discussed.)
Bill thank you very much.
Arkady from Ukraine.
пн, 18 февр. 2019 г. в 10:12, Richard Ellis :
Thanks Bill
I will have a go at that when I get the house sorted, and garage ,that is in
turmoil (like Rogers ) I just have to keep moving things to find things to find
things etc etc etc
I have made the spindles, will post a pic later
Richard
On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 11:27:49 PM UTC, Va Oak wrote:
Bill,
Thanks. As usual, you are a stellar contributor to The Group - and we
appreciate it.
Please, NOTE: I changed the Subject line - so this Discussion will be MUCH
easier to find later.
Mac
_
_
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 6:19 PM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
This is what I did to make the my one in the pic
I started with a 2 1/2 square piece I think it was
Then using a 1 inch strait bit or planeing bit I milled a groove across the top
2 inches from the head stock leaving some wood for the base and 1inch deep then
1inch deep at the tailstock end an inch from the end (remember a groove do not
rotate the work while milling it) now rotate the work ½ a turn 180degrees and
repeat this makes the start and the finish of the ribbon twist a half inch
thick.
Then I used a long 1/2inch spiral bit. the mills pitch was 7 ½ inches
Start at the head stock end and set the grooves perfectly vertical set the bit
the full depth if the work 2 ½ inches deep from the top
now Come in from the side engage the leadscrew and mill the first side of the
twist, take several cuts you can’t do it in one cut you must take it easy .
cuts are put on with the cross slide your last cut this side will start just be
touching the vertical groove. when finished wind cross side out disengauge
leadscrew slide the saddle along exactly 3 ¾ inches which is half the pitch and
engage the leadscrew this will set it for the other side. Now mill the second
side of the ribbon.
Pease forgive my description I’m not good at explaining i should have done a
video back then but I didn’t in those days everyone knew how to do it .
Now that’s the ribbon twist I did in my pic the norm is to turn your blank
round and mill round reliefs each end for the ribbon thickness also they mill
the top of the ribbon too but I didn’t do that I wanted mine a little different
You can see mine and legacys in the pics I hope all this is not too hard to
follow
Ps I forgot if you’re standing at the end of your mill facing the gears you
mill the ribbon from the right hand side turning from the head stock to tail
stock, also you could use a 2 flute strait router bit but it will vibrate lots
more with a spiral bit there’s always part of the bit touching the work less
vibration
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 8:20 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi Bill
How?
Arkady from Ukraine.
вс, 17 февр. 2019 г. в 23:17, Bill Bulkeley :
By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the side
not from the top right ?
Bill
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM
To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your gear
chart and select it
Bill (aussiman) yea its me :-)
From: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 2:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi
On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some images ,many thanks for them. I noticed
one had a ribbon twist and owing to the fact that my good Wife has just bought
handles for the kitchen cabinets { expensive )
I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my Revo to have a go at making them ??
If replacements are needed
Richard
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are gone
that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not there so
many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did grab a
few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
Bill
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Re: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Bill thank you very much.
Arkady from Ukraine.
пн, 18 февр. 2019 г. в 10:12, Richard Ellis :
> Thanks Bill
> I will have a go at that when I get the house sorted, and garage ,that is
> in turmoil (like Rogers ) I just have to keep moving things to find things
> to find things etc etc etc
> I have made the spindles, will post a pic later
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 11:27:49 PM UTC, Va Oak wrote:
>>
>> Bill,
>>
>> Thanks. As usual, you are a stellar contributor to The Group - and we
>> appreciate it.
>>
>> Please, NOTE: I changed the Subject line - so this Discussion will be
>> MUCH easier to find later.
>>
>> Mac
>> --
>> --
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Bill Bulkeley
>> Sent: Feb 17, 2019 6:19 PM
>> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: the archives
>>
>> This is what I did to make the my one in the pic
>>
>> I started with a 2 1/2 square piece I think it was
>>
>> Then using a 1 inch strait bit or planeing bit I milled a groove across
>> the top 2 inches from the head stock leaving some wood for the base and
>> 1inch deep then 1inch deep at the tailstock end an inch from the end
>> (remember a groove do not rotate the work while milling it) now rotate the
>> work ½ a turn 180degrees and repeat this makes the start and the finish of
>> the ribbon twist a half inch thick.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then I used a long 1/2inch spiral bit. the mills pitch was 7 ½ inches
>>
>>
>>
>> Start at the head stock end and set the grooves perfectly vertical set
>> the bit the full depth if the work 2 ½ inches deep from the top
>>
>> now Come in from the side engage the leadscrew and mill the first side of
>> the twist, take several cuts you can’t do it in one cut you must take it
>> easy . cuts are put on with the cross slide your last cut this side will
>> start just be touching the vertical groove. when finished wind cross side
>> out disengauge leadscrew slide the saddle along exactly 3 ¾ inches which is
>> half the pitch and engage the leadscrew this will set it for the other
>> side. Now mill the second side of the ribbon.
>>
>>
>>
>> Pease forgive my description I’m not good at explaining i should have
>> done a video back then but I didn’t in those days everyone knew how to do
>> it .
>>
>>
>>
>> Now that’s the ribbon twist I did in my pic the norm is to turn your
>> blank round and mill round reliefs each end for the ribbon thickness also
>> they mill the top of the ribbon too but I didn’t do that I wanted mine a
>> little different
>>
>>
>>
>> You can see mine and legacys in the pics I hope all this is not too hard
>> to follow
>>
>>
>>
>> Ps I forgot if you’re standing at the end of your mill facing the gears
>> you mill the ribbon from the right hand side turning from the head stock to
>> tail stock, also you could use a 2 flute strait router bit but it will
>> vibrate lots more with a spiral bit there’s always part of the bit touching
>> the work less vibration
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Arkady Paka
>> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 8:20 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* Re: the archives
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Bill
>>
>> How?
>>
>> Arkady from Ukraine.
>>
>>
>>
>> вс, 17 февр. 2019 г. в 23:17, Bill Bulkeley :
>>
>> By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from
>> the side not from the top right ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Bulkeley
>> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM
>> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
>> *Subject:* RE: the archives
>>
>>
>>
>> It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your
>> gear chart and select it
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill (aussiman) yea its me J
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
>> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Richard Ellis
>> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 2:39 AM
>> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
>> *Subject:* Re: the archives
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some images ,many thanks for them. I
>> noticed one had a ribbon twist and owing to the fact that my good Wife has
>> just bought handles for the kitchen cabinets { expensive )
>>
>> I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my Revo to have a go at making
>> them ?? If replacements are needed
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>>
>> I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are
>> gone that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not
>> there so many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i
>> did grab a few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
>>
>>
>>
>> Bill
>>
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Re: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Thanks Bill
I will have a go at that when I get the house sorted, and garage ,that is
in turmoil (like Rogers ) I just have to keep moving things to find things
to find things etc etc etc
I have made the spindles, will post a pic later
Richard
On Sunday, February 17, 2019 at 11:27:49 PM UTC, Va Oak wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> Thanks. As usual, you are a stellar contributor to The Group - and we
> appreciate it.
>
> Please, NOTE: I changed the Subject line - so this Discussion will be
> MUCH easier to find later.
>
> Mac
> --
> --
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Bulkeley
> Sent: Feb 17, 2019 6:19 PM
> To: legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: the archives
>
> This is what I did to make the my one in the pic
>
> I started with a 2 1/2 square piece I think it was
>
> Then using a 1 inch strait bit or planeing bit I milled a groove across
> the top 2 inches from the head stock leaving some wood for the base and
> 1inch deep then 1inch deep at the tailstock end an inch from the end
> (remember a groove do not rotate the work while milling it) now rotate the
> work ½ a turn 180degrees and repeat this makes the start and the finish of
> the ribbon twist a half inch thick.
>
>
>
> Then I used a long 1/2inch spiral bit. the mills pitch was 7 ½ inches
>
>
>
> Start at the head stock end and set the grooves perfectly vertical set the
> bit the full depth if the work 2 ½ inches deep from the top
>
> now Come in from the side engage the leadscrew and mill the first side of
> the twist, take several cuts you can’t do it in one cut you must take it
> easy . cuts are put on with the cross slide your last cut this side will
> start just be touching the vertical groove. when finished wind cross side
> out disengauge leadscrew slide the saddle along exactly 3 ¾ inches which is
> half the pitch and engage the leadscrew this will set it for the other
> side. Now mill the second side of the ribbon.
>
>
>
> Pease forgive my description I’m not good at explaining i should have done
> a video back then but I didn’t in those days everyone knew how to do it .
>
>
>
> Now that’s the ribbon twist I did in my pic the norm is to turn your blank
> round and mill round reliefs each end for the ribbon thickness also they
> mill the top of the ribbon too but I didn’t do that I wanted mine a little
> different
>
>
>
> You can see mine and legacys in the pics I hope all this is not too hard
> to follow
>
>
>
> Ps I forgot if you’re standing at the end of your mill facing the gears
> you mill the ribbon from the right hand side turning from the head stock to
> tail stock, also you could use a 2 flute strait router bit but it will
> vibrate lots more with a spiral bit there’s always part of the bit touching
> the work less vibration
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Arkady
> Paka
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 8:20 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: the archives
>
>
>
> Hi Bill
>
> How?
>
> Arkady from Ukraine.
>
>
>
> вс, 17 февр. 2019 г. в 23:17, Bill Bulkeley >:
>
> By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the
> side not from the top right ?
>
>
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Bill
> Bulkeley
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM
> *To:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: the archives
>
>
>
> It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your
> gear chart and select it
>
>
>
> Bill (aussiman) yea its me J
>
>
>
> *From:* legacy-orna...@googlegroups.com [mailto:
> legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of
> *Richard
> Ellis
> *Sent:* Monday, 18 February 2019 2:39 AM
> *To:* Legacy Ornamental Mills
> *Subject:* Re: the archives
>
>
>
> Hi
>
> On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some images ,many thanks for them. I
> noticed one had a ribbon twist and owing to the fact that my good Wife has
> just bought handles for the kitchen cabinets { expensive )
>
> I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my Revo to have a go at making
> them ?? If replacements are needed
>
> Richard
>
> On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
>
> I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are
> gone that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not
> there so many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i
> did grab a few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
>
>
>
> Bill
>
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RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Bill,Would you please resend you recent one - where you explain how you make your (and Legacy's) version? The one I'm referring to also included the two attachments - photos of completed "twists". That way, the attachments are included in an email with "Ribbon Twist" in the Subject line. The email you sent with the 2 photos has the "meaningless" Subject: "the archives". (Not your fault - just the way the "discussions were going.)When I looked at the email you sent using the Subject: "Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)" - the attachments were not included. So that email would be lacking the images - and of lesser value in the archives. Those images are VERY important to have included in the email/discussion. A picture is worth a thousand words. As someone mentioned a week or so ago: We need to be mindful of what we post under what SUBJECT titles. We should ask ourselves "With the SUBJECT line I am using, will someone later be able to search the archives and find what we are discussing?"Thanks.Mac-Original Message- From: Bill Bulkeley Sent: Feb 17, 2019 6:29 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.) Good idea mac From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 10:28 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com; legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.) Bill, Thanks. As usual, you are a stellar contributor to The Group - and we appreciate it. Please, NOTE: I changed the Subject line - so this Discussion will be MUCH easier to find later. Mac -Original Message- From: Bill Bulkeley Sent: Feb 17, 2019 6:19 PM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: the archives This is what I did to make the my one in the pic I started with a 2 1/2 square piece I think it was Then using a 1 inch strait bit or planeing bit I milled a groove across the top 2 inches from the head stock leaving some wood for the base and 1inch deep then 1inch deep at the tailstock end an inch from the end (remember a groove do not rotate the work while milling it) now rotate the work ½ a turn 180degrees and repeat this makes the start and the finish of the ribbon twist a half inch thick. Then I used a long 1/2inch spiral bit. the mills pitch was 7 ½ inches Start at the head stock end and set the grooves perfectly vertical set the bit the full depth if the work 2 ½ inches deep from the top now Come in from the side engage the leadscrew and mill the first side of the twist, take several cuts you can’t do it in one cut you must take it easy . cuts are put on with the cross slide your last cut this side will start just be touching the vertical groove. when finished wind cross side out disengauge leadscrew slide the saddle along exactly 3 ¾ inches which is half the pitch and engage the leadscrew this will set it for the other side. Now mill the second side of the ribbon. Pease forgive my description I’m not good at explaining i should have done a video back then but I didn’t in those days everyone knew how to do it . Now that’s the ribbon twist I did in my pic the norm is to turn your blank round and mill round reliefs each end for the ribbon thickness also they mill the top of the ribbon too but I didn’t do that I wanted mine a little different You can see mine and legacys in the pics I hope all this is not too hard to follow Ps I forgot if you’re standing at the end of your mill facing the gears you mill the ribbon from the right hand side turning from the head stock to tail stock, also you could use a 2 flute strait router bit but it will vibrate lots more with a spiral bit there’s always part of the bit touching the work less vibration Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arkady Paka Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 8:20 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: the archives Hi Bill How? Arkady from Ukraine. вс, 17 февр. 2019 г. в 23:17, Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>: By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the side not from the top right ? Bill From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: the archives It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spira
RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Good idea mac
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 10:28 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com;
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic
being discussed.)
Bill,
Thanks. As usual, you are a stellar contributor to The Group - and we
appreciate it.
Please, NOTE: I changed the Subject line - so this Discussion will be MUCH
easier to find later.
Mac
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-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 6:19 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
This is what I did to make the my one in the pic
I started with a 2 1/2 square piece I think it was
Then using a 1 inch strait bit or planeing bit I milled a groove across the top
2 inches from the head stock leaving some wood for the base and 1inch deep then
1inch deep at the tailstock end an inch from the end (remember a groove do not
rotate the work while milling it) now rotate the work ½ a turn 180degrees and
repeat this makes the start and the finish of the ribbon twist a half inch
thick.
Then I used a long 1/2inch spiral bit. the mills pitch was 7 ½ inches
Start at the head stock end and set the grooves perfectly vertical set the bit
the full depth if the work 2 ½ inches deep from the top
now Come in from the side engage the leadscrew and mill the first side of the
twist, take several cuts you can’t do it in one cut you must take it easy .
cuts are put on with the cross slide your last cut this side will start just be
touching the vertical groove. when finished wind cross side out disengauge
leadscrew slide the saddle along exactly 3 ¾ inches which is half the pitch and
engage the leadscrew this will set it for the other side. Now mill the second
side of the ribbon.
Pease forgive my description I’m not good at explaining i should have done a
video back then but I didn’t in those days everyone knew how to do it .
Now that’s the ribbon twist I did in my pic the norm is to turn your blank
round and mill round reliefs each end for the ribbon thickness also they mill
the top of the ribbon too but I didn’t do that I wanted mine a little different
You can see mine and legacys in the pics I hope all this is not too hard to
follow
Ps I forgot if you’re standing at the end of your mill facing the gears you
mill the ribbon from the right hand side turning from the head stock to tail
stock, also you could use a 2 flute strait router bit but it will vibrate lots
more with a spiral bit there’s always part of the bit touching the work less
vibration
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arkady Paka
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 8:20 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi Bill
How?
Arkady from Ukraine.
вс, 17 февр. 2019 г. в 23:17, Bill Bulkeley :
By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the side
not from the top right ?
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your gear
chart and select it
Bill (aussiman) yea its me :-)
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 2:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi
On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some images ,many thanks for them. I noticed
one had a ribbon twist and owing to the fact that my good Wife has just bought
handles for the kitchen cabinets { expensive )
I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my Revo to have a go at making them ??
If replacements are needed
Richard
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are gone
that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not there so
many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did grab a
few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
Bill
Virus-free.
www.avg.com
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RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
LoL!!!We appreciate BOTH - Curtis' AND Yours!Mac-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 6:23 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Yes there are 2 types don’t tell me after i
just posted a lengthy description of mine you all wanted this one
Bill
From:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019
9:34 AM
To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ribbon Twist (changed
Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Curtis,
Thanks. EXELLENT article!
The article seems to show/instruct cutting
this particular "Ribbon Twist" from the top - not the side. I
like the idea of tilting the router's base - to produce the "special
effect". Lots of possibilities there - by experimenting with various
amounts of "tilt". Maybe even making some passes with the tilt
towards the tailstock and then others tilting towards the headstock - all on
the same piece of stock.
Bill, were you referring to a somewhat
different "ribbon twist"?
Mac
-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 5:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the archives
Hello
guys. here is the ribbon twist.
C.A.G.
On
Sunday, February 17, 2019, 4:43:53 PM EST, Bill Bulkeley
wrote:
Yes on
a ribbon twist spiral it won’t work from the top only from the side
Bill
From:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019
8:37 AM
To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
Bill,
No - I dd not know that.
Why will it matter/make a difference - top
vs side?
Mac
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 4:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
By the
way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the side not
from the top right ?
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019
7:49 AM
To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
It
depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your gear
chart and select it
Bill
(aussiman) yea its me J
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019
2:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi
On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some
images ,many thanks for them. I noticed one had a ribbon twist and owing to the
fact that my good Wife has just bought handles for the kitchen cabinets {
expensive )
I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my
Revo to have a go at making them ?? If replacements are needed
Richard
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
I spent
most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are gone that we
posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not there so many
projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did grab a few
pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
Bill
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RE: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic being discussed.)
Yes there are 2 types don’t tell me after i just posted a lengthy description
of mine you all wanted this one
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 9:34 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Ribbon Twist (changed Subject line from "the Archives" to the Topic
being discussed.)
Curtis,
Thanks. EXELLENT article!
The article seems to show/instruct cutting this particular "Ribbon Twist" from
the top - not the side. I like the idea of tilting the router's base - to
produce the "special effect". Lots of possibilities there - by experimenting
with various amounts of "tilt". Maybe even making some passes with the tilt
towards the tailstock and then others tilting towards the headstock - all on
the same piece of stock.
Bill, were you referring to a somewhat different "ribbon twist"?
Mac
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_
-Original Message-
From: 'Curt George' via Legacy Ornamental Mills
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 5:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: the archives
Hello guys. here is the ribbon twist.
C.A.G.
On Sunday, February 17, 2019, 4:43:53 PM EST, Bill Bulkeley
wrote:
Yes on a ribbon twist spiral it won’t work from the top only from the side
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 8:37 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
Bill,
No - I dd not know that.
Why will it matter/make a difference - top vs side?
Mac
_
_
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Feb 17, 2019 4:17 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
By the way you do know that spiral is done with a long spiral bit from the side
not from the top right ?
Bill
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bulkeley
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 7:49 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: the archives
It depends on what pitch you wish to make like any other spiral use your gear
chart and select it
Bill (aussiman) yea its me :-)
From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Ellis
Sent: Monday, 18 February 2019 2:39 AM
To: Legacy Ornamental Mills
Subject: Re: the archives
Hi
On the 10 th Feb aussiman posted some images ,many thanks for them. I noticed
one had a ribbon twist and owing to the fact that my good Wife has just bought
handles for the kitchen cabinets { expensive )
I wonder what toothed gear do I need on my Revo to have a go at making them ??
If replacements are needed
Richard
On Sunday, February 10, 2019 at 9:05:14 PM UTC, aussiman wrote:
I spent most of Sunday looking through our archives so many things are gone
that we posted over the years so many legacy mods we all invented not there so
many projects we did not there dam shame i wonder what happened i did grab a
few pics that were there here is a few just for old time sake
Bill
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