subject:"magnate"

Ok how they took them was you went to bed a law abiding citizen and awoke the 
next day a criminal .

That next day They gave us a 3 month amnesty to hand them over and get paid the 
current market value which was a lot lower than we bought them for, family air 
looms and sentimental value be dammed. after the 3 months they did random house 
searches and if any were found it was off to jail you went, also if they were 
not properly stored as in, a locked safe bolted to the wall or floor with an 
alarm system fitted and ammunition in a separate safe they were all taken and 
off to jail you go.

So you say they won’t get them i will hide them they also introduced compulsory 
 gun registration of all guns before the buyback surrender so they knew were 
they all were to come and get them and if any unregistered guns are found on 
your property or you cant produce the gun there looking for its all guns taken 
and off to jail you go.

So i was not kidding when i said one day you were a law abiding citizen and 
literally the next day you awoke a criminal

And the sad part is of all the types of guns taken only law enforcement and the 
real criminals have them the only ones penalised are the honest law abiding 
citizen and the crime rate remained the same . oh yes and when they were banned 
export and sale of said guns was also banned so sending them to friends and 
relatives overseas was not an option.

And here too prices of all gun related items rises and rises that includes 
licences and registration fees.

And on top of all of that the media has such a hate campaign on gun owners that 
the uneducated  put us in the same group as paedophiles which demonstrators 
call you at antigun protests.

It is so bad here in many places if your employer  finds out your a gun owner 
you are let go immediately and any unfair dismissal is totally ignored .and I 
won’t even go into the ridicules nightmare of transporting what guns are left 
just to go out hunting

So beware America don’t think it can’t happen to you that’s what we thought 
then the axe fell.

 

So what sort of country do I live in now last week was Anzac day here the day 
we honour our return servicemen and women

The attendance numbers were down in fear of terrorist threats and a decorated 
2nd world war veteran was bashed and robbed on the way home and a young sailor 
who tried help him was attacked by the same vermin, and who was arrested the 
sailor for assault.

And brass plaques naming the fallen were smashed and taken from a park in a 
nearby town  without any reason. 

  at times I am ashamed to say I am an Australian  that’s the country I live in 
now.

Bill  

I apologise for going so far off legacy topic but I too agree with mac listen 
and see what might happen. 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 12:35 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

How did they "take" your guns?  
Did you have to go to the local Police Station and turn them in?  
Did they pay you for their confiscating your guns?  If yes, how much?
Could you have sent any of your guns "out of country" - like to Peter and me?
What about if they succeed in action against the remaining, currently legal, 
long guns - will you be able to "export" them?
Mac
PS: Sorry that this discussion is off-topic - but EVERY American should pay 
attention to what Bill is telling us.  That day could come to America - and if 
the Second Amendment is ever emasculated - ALL the rest of The Bill of Rights 
are in jeopardy!!  The Founding Fathers included the Right to Keep and Bear 
Arms (and purposely made it the Second) so that the citizenry would be able to 
protect themselves/their country against tyranny.  
The FIRST thing oppressive governments do is outlaw private 
ownership/possession of firearms by the citizenry.
As the saying goes:  "If they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." 
(You don't think for a minute that a criminal/gang banger will turn in their 
guns do you?)

  _  

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 10:04 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 




Back in the day I had a 44mag S&W which was the biggest around then, I got 1400 
fps with 240 grain copper jacket hollow point

Which gave me a 3inch group at 100yards  it was excellent on wild pig here i 
sure do miss it.

I have no handguns now all gone it’s illegal to hunt with pistol now.what was 
left i lost in my house fire 3 years ago.

now All I have is a few long arms lever and bolt action. as I write this our 
government is tying to make all lever actions illegal now

So there wont be much left it goes through .

In 96 when we lost all our rights and a great many guns it was to reduce gu

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread MAX LATHAM

I'm so blessed to be associated with Patriots as well as saw dusters!
I jokingly have been buying  Johnson & Johnson stock for years! 

I can see it coming now. 

(they make  KY jelly)  ha

I really don't think it'll happen in our lifetimes, too many patriots. Just 
have to let lots of us die off and our brainwashed kids and grands won't know 
what hit 'em. They are too preoccupied with self and electronics. 

I do just DO appreciate following all your shenanigans!
max 



Date: Mon, 2 May 2016 22:32:55 -0400
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.
From: carstenstig...@verizon.net
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com



Bill unfortunately too many here are in agreement with that buffoon. As an 18 
year submarine veteran who served from Nam to desert storm I weep for my 
country but it is only going to keep getting worse. 
Carl Stigers 
Ps I have a 900 and am not afraid to use it...


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: Bill Bulkeley  
Date: 02/05/2016  10:09 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 





Am I correct isn’t your president obama
trying to do to you what our government did to us here

Bill

 



From:
parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:56 AM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.



 

Mac,

Yes.  You are so very right



 





 





 





-Original Message-

From: MWF 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 9:42 pm

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.







Peter,

Did you see my comment addressed to you in the reply I sent to Bill? 
(Look three messages down from this one - 2nd paragraph.)

Mac









-Original Message- 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: May 2, 2016 9:37 PM 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 



Bill,





I hold all my rights dear
to my heart. I will never let this government or any other one take away my
arms as I learned from history what becomes of people that can't protect
themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years (legally) and it gives me
the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am going home alive. So far-so
good. 





 





I've never shot a 360 gr
bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out of a 7 1/2"
barrel





 





 





-Original Message-

From: Bill Bulkeley 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.







I was around when we still
had them all the trouble with our country it never was the right to keep and
bear it was the privilege to.





And privileges can easily
be removed which they did here. it won’t be long and all guns will be gone here
and our country will be totally defenceless . the only right we had in our
constitution  was the right to own private property which included guns
but the government changed our  constitution in 96 and removed that little
right which meant they can take away what they like when they like.





So never take your RtKaBA for
granted your so lucky to have it





Bill  





 





 









From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of MWF

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.









 







Bill,

Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.

If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear
Arms" (RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 

(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)



Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment,
but, by extension, ALL of
them!



Mac



















-Original Message----- 

From: Bill Bulkeley 

Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 









454 casull that’s like
1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per second from a 360 grain
projectile man that’s a cannon





You boys certainly do it
big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that here





Bill





 





 





 







From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]


Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Bill,You are correct - if he had his way, we'd be like you and the Canadians.I think he and his ilk will never stop in that effort.  Other "tricks"/back door methods they will attempt to use (some states - what we call "Blue States", already have adopted some of these tactics) are:1. Requiring that all guns be "locked up" in you home (some require trigger locks, others require more, like a strong box or vault.2. Taxing the "you know what" out of any gun or ammo purchase - making the purchases so expensive that many/most can't afford.3. Imposing HUGE "insurance" requirements on a gun owner.  Again the intent is to make the ownership "out-of-sight" EXPENSIVE.And if the Dems win the next national elections, you can label their administration "Obama Revisited/II"!Mac -Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 10:09 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Am I correct isn’t your president obama
trying to do to you what our government did to us here

Bill

From:
parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Mac,
Yes.  You are so very right

-Original Message-----
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Peter,
Did you see my comment addressed to you in the reply I sent to Bill? 
(Look three messages down from this one - 2nd paragraph.)
Mac

-Original Message- 
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 9:37 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

Bill,

I hold all my rights dear
to my heart. I will never let this government or any other one take away my
arms as I learned from history what becomes of people that can't protect
themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years (legally) and it gives me
the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am going home alive. So far-so
good. 

I've never shot a 360 gr
bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out of a 7 1/2"
barrel

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley <bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
To: legacy-ornamental-mills mi...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I was around when we still
had them all the trouble with our country it never was the right to keep and
bear it was the privilege to.

And privileges can easily
be removed which they did here. it won’t be long and all guns will be gone here
and our country will be totally defenceless . the only right we had in our
constitution  was the right to own private property which included guns
but the government changed our  constitution in 96 and removed that little
right which meant they can take away what they like when they like.

So never take your RtKaBA for
granted your so lucky to have it

Bill  

From: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Bill,
Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.
If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear
Arms" (RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 
(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment,
but, by extension, ALL of
them!

Mac

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

454 casull that’s like
1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per second from a 360 grain
projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it
big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that here

Bill 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

How did they "take" your guns?  Did you have to go to the local Police Station and turn them in?  Did they pay you for their confiscating your guns?  If yes, how much?Could you have sent any of your guns "out of country" - like to Peter and me?What about if they succeed in action against the remaining, currently legal, long guns - will you be able to "export" them?MacPS: Sorry that this discussion is off-topic - but EVERY American should pay attention to what Bill is telling us.  That day could come to America - and if the Second Amendment is ever emasculated - ALL the rest of The Bill of Rights are in jeopardy!!  The Founding Fathers included the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (and purposely made it the Second) so that the citizenry would be able to protect themselves/their country against tyranny.  The FIRST thing oppressive governments do is outlaw private ownership/possession of firearms by the citizenry.As the saying goes:  "If they outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns." (You don't think for a minute that a criminal/gang banger will turn in their guns do you?)-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 10:04 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Back in the day I had a 44mag S&W which
was the biggest around then, I got 1400 fps with 240 grain copper jacket hollow
point

Which gave me a 3inch group at 100yards  it
was excellent on wild pig here i sure do miss it.

I have no handguns now all gone it’s illegal
to hunt with pistol now.what was left i lost in my house fire 3 years ago.

now All I have is a few long arms lever and
bolt action. as I write this our government is tying to make all lever actions
illegal now

So there wont be much left it goes through .

In 96 when we lost all our rights and a great
many guns it was to reduce gun related crime which did nothing

Instead home invasion has risen dramatically
vermin break into homes bash kill rape and rob with no way to stop it and any
that do get arrested and jailed for assaulting the poor criminal I do wonder what
has happened to the world at times.

Bill

From:
parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:38 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Bill,

I hold all my rights dear
to my heart. I will never let this government or any other one take away my
arms as I learned from history what becomes of people that can't protect
themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years (legally) and it gives me
the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am going home alive. So far-so
good. 

I've never shot a 360 gr
bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out of a 7 1/2"
barrel

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I was around when we still
had them all the trouble with our country it never was the right to keep and
bear it was the privilege to.

And privileges can easily
be removed which they did here. it won’t be long and all guns will be gone here
and our country will be totally defenceless . the only right we had in our
constitution  was the right to own private property which included guns
but the government changed our  constitution in 96 and removed that little
right which meant they can take away what they like when they like.

So never take your RtKaBA for
granted your so lucky to have it

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Bill,
Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.
If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear
Arms" (RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 
(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment,
but, by extension, ALL of
them!

Mac

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

454 casull that’s like
1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per second from a 360 grain
projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it
big over there. That

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread carstenstigers



Bill unfortunately too many here are in agreement with that buffoon. As an 18 
year submarine veteran who served from Nam to desert storm I weep for my 
country but it is only going to keep getting worse. 
Carl Stigers 
Ps I have a 900 and am not afraid to use it...


Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone

 Original message 
From: Bill Bulkeley  
Date: 02/05/2016  10:09 PM  (GMT-05:00) 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 





Am I correct isn’t your president obama
trying to do to you what our government did to us here

Bill

 



From:
parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:56 AM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.



 

Mac,

Yes.  You are so very right



 





 





 





-Original Message-

From: MWF 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 9:42 pm

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.







Peter,

Did you see my comment addressed to you in the reply I sent to Bill? 
(Look three messages down from this one - 2nd paragraph.)

Mac









-Original Message- 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: May 2, 2016 9:37 PM 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com


Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 



Bill,





I hold all my rights dear
to my heart. I will never let this government or any other one take away my
arms as I learned from history what becomes of people that can't protect
themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years (legally) and it gives me
the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am going home alive. So far-so
good. 





 





I've never shot a 360 gr
bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out of a 7 1/2"
barrel





 





 





-Original Message-

From: Bill Bulkeley 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.







I was around when we still
had them all the trouble with our country it never was the right to keep and
bear it was the privilege to.





And privileges can easily
be removed which they did here. it won’t be long and all guns will be gone here
and our country will be totally defenceless . the only right we had in our
constitution  was the right to own private property which included guns
but the government changed our  constitution in 96 and removed that little
right which meant they can take away what they like when they like.





So never take your RtKaBA for
granted your so lucky to have it





Bill  





 





 









From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of MWF

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.









 







Bill,

Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.

If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear
Arms" (RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 

(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)



Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment,
but, by extension, ALL of
them!



Mac



















-Original Message- 

From: Bill Bulkeley 

Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com


Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 









454 casull that’s like
1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per second from a 360 grain
projectile man that’s a cannon





You boys certainly do it
big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that here





Bill





 





 





 







From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]


Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.







 





Mac, 

I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488
ci V10 in my Viper

I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900

I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by
him and his skill as a craftsman

Peter







 









 









 









-Original Message-

From: MWF 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.











I'm not sure who "parr454" is -
but t

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Am I correct isn’t your president obama trying to do to you what our government 
did to us here

Bill

 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:56 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Mac,
Yes.  You are so very right

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Peter,
Did you see my comment addressed to you in the reply I sent to Bill?  (Look 
three messages down from this one - 2nd paragraph.)
Mac

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 9:37 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

Bill,

I hold all my rights dear to my heart. I will never let this government or any 
other one take away my arms as I learned from history what becomes of people 
that can't protect themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years 
(legally) and it gives me the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am 
going home alive. So far-so good. 

 

I've never shot a 360 gr bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out 
of a 7 1/2" barrel

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley < <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au> bulke...@mmnet.com.au>
To: legacy-ornamental-mills mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> 
mi...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I was around when we still had them all the trouble with our country it never 
was the right to keep and bear it was the privilege to.

And privileges can easily be removed which they did here. it won’t be long and 
all guns will be gone here and our country will be totally defenceless . the 
only right we had in our constitution  was the right to own private property 
which included guns but the government changed our  constitution in 96 and 
removed that little right which meant they can take away what they like when 
they like.

So never take your RtKaBA for granted your so lucky to have it

Bill  

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com 
[ <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com?> 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Bill,
Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.
If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" 
(RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 
(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our 
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our 
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST 
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment, but, by 
extension, ALL of them!

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 



454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here

Bill

 

 

 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills [ 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com?> 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF < <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> mwfos...@earthlink.net>
To: legacy-ornamental-mills mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> 
mi...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Back in the day I had a 44mag S&W which was the biggest around then, I got 1400 
fps with 240 grain copper jacket hollow point

Which gave me a 3inch group at 100yards  it was excellent on wild pig here i 
sure do miss it.

I have no handguns now all gone it’s illegal to hunt with pistol now.what was 
left i lost in my house fire 3 years ago.

now All I have is a few long arms lever and bolt action. as I write this our 
government is tying to make all lever actions illegal now

So there wont be much left it goes through .

In 96 when we lost all our rights and a great many guns it was to reduce gun 
related crime which did nothing

Instead home invasion has risen dramatically vermin break into homes bash kill 
rape and rob with no way to stop it and any that do get arrested and jailed for 
assaulting the poor criminal I do wonder what has happened to the world at 
times.

Bill

 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:38 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Bill,

I hold all my rights dear to my heart. I will never let this government or any 
other one take away my arms as I learned from history what becomes of people 
that can't protect themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years 
(legally) and it gives me the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am 
going home alive. So far-so good. 

 

I've never shot a 360 gr bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out 
of a 7 1/2" barrel

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I was around when we still had them all the trouble with our country it never 
was the right to keep and bear it was the privilege to.

And privileges can easily be removed which they did here. it won’t be long and 
all guns will be gone here and our country will be totally defenceless . the 
only right we had in our constitution  was the right to own private property 
which included guns but the government changed our  constitution in 96 and 
removed that little right which meant they can take away what they like when 
they like.

So never take your RtKaBA for granted your so lucky to have it

Bill  

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com 
[ <mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com?> 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Bill,
Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.
If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" 
(RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 
(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our 
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our 
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST 
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment, but, by 
extension, ALL of them!

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 



454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here

Bill

 

 

 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills [ 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com?> 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF < <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> mwfos...@earthlink.net>
To: legacy-ornamental-mills mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> 
mi...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had

Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mac,
Yes.  You are so very right

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 9:42 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.



Peter,
Did you see my comment addressed to you in the reply I sent to Bill?  (Look 
three messages down from this one - 2nd paragraph.)
Mac


-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 9:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.


Bill,
I hold all my rights dear to my heart. I will never let this government or any 
other one take away my arms as I learned from history what becomes of people 
that can't protect themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years 
(legally) and it gives me the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am 
going home alive. So far-so good. 
 
I've never shot a 360 gr bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out 
of a 7 1/2" barrel
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.



I was around when we still had them all thetrouble with our country it never 
was the right to keep and bear it was the privilegeto.
And privileges can easily be removed whichthey did here. it won’t be long and 
all guns will be gone here and our countrywill be totally defenceless . the 
only right we had in our constitution  wasthe right to own private property 
which included guns but the government changedour  constitution in 96 and 
removed that little right which meant they can takeaway what they like when 
they like.
So never take your RtKaBA for granted your solucky to have it
Bill  
 
 

From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog& Holiday greetings.

 

Bill,
Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.
If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and BearArms" 
(RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 
(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have 
ourConstitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate ourConstitution/Bill 
of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOSTinfluential/powerful 
"protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment,but, by extension, ALL ofthem!

Mac





-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 



454 casull that’s like1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grainprojectile man that’s a cannon
You boys certainly do itbig over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here
Bill
 
 
 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog& Holiday greetings.

 
Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 
timesthe power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 
488ci V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed 
byhim and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

 

 

 

-Original Message-----
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.


I'm not sure who "parr454" is -but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or hada Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a"name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting 
Toolsbefore I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the 
InfinityPlaner and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit 
for use inflattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of 
thesebits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they 
sell:(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac





-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate &#

Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Peter,Did you see my comment addressed to you in the reply I sent to Bill?  (Look three messages down from this one - 2nd paragraph.)Mac-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 9:37 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Bill,

I hold all my rights dear to my heart. I will never let this government or any other one take away my arms as I learned from history what becomes of people that can't protect themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years (legally) and it gives me the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am going home alive. So far-so good. 

I've never shot a 360 gr bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out of a 7 1/2" barrel

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I was around when we still had them all the
trouble with our country it never was the right to keep and bear it was the privilege
to.

And privileges can easily be removed which
they did here. it won’t be long and all guns will be gone here and our country
will be totally defenceless . the only right we had in our constitution  was
the right to own private property which included guns but the government changed
our  constitution in 96 and removed that little right which meant they can take
away what they like when they like.

So never take your RtKaBA for granted your so
lucky to have it

Bill  

From:
legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM

To:
legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Bill,

Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.

If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear
Arms" (RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 

(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment,
but, by extension, ALL of
them!

Mac

-Original Message-

From: Bill Bulkeley 

Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 

To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

454 casull that’s like
1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per second from a 360 grain
projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it
big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that here

Bill

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills [mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM

To:
legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Mac, 

I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488
ci V10 in my Viper

I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900

I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by
him and his skill as a craftsman

Peter

-Original Message-

From: MWF <mwfos...@earthlink.net>

To: legacy-ornamental-mills mi...@googlegroups.com>

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is -
but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are you?" as a kid; or had
a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 

And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a
"name" or nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity
Planer and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these
bits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell:
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

-Original Message-

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 

To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@google

Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills


Bill,
I hold all my rights dear to my heart. I will never let this government or any 
other one take away my arms as I learned from history what becomes of people 
that can't protect themself. I've carried everyday for the past 35 years 
(legally) and it gives me the good feeling knowing that no matter what , I am 
going home alive. So far-so good. 

I've never shot a 360 gr bullet out of my  but I get 1650 fps with a 300gr out 
of a 7 1/2" barrel
 
 
-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 8:56 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.



I was around when we still had them all thetrouble with our country it never 
was the right to keep and bear it was the privilegeto.
And privileges can easily be removed whichthey did here. it won’t be long and 
all guns will be gone here and our countrywill be totally defenceless . the 
only right we had in our constitution  wasthe right to own private property 
which included guns but the government changedour  constitution in 96 and 
removed that little right which meant they can takeaway what they like when 
they like.
So never take your RtKaBA for granted your solucky to have it
Bill  
 
 

From:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog& Holiday greetings.

 

Bill,
Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.
If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and BearArms" 
(RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 
(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have 
ourConstitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate ourConstitution/Bill 
of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOSTinfluential/powerful 
"protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment,but, by extension, ALL ofthem!

Mac





-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 



454 casull that’s like1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grainprojectile man that’s a cannon
You boys certainly do itbig over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here
Bill
 
 
 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog& Holiday greetings.

 
Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 
timesthe power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 
488ci V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed 
byhim and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.


I'm not sure who "parr454" is -but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or hada Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a"name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting 
Toolsbefore I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the 
InfinityPlaner and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit 
for use inflattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of 
thesebits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they 
sell:(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac





-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which isvery 
good



 

-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.


 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planningbit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turningand chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so Idid.)  ;-)

 

By the title of this message there was aCD catalog in with t

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I was around when we still had them all the trouble with our country it never 
was the right to keep and bear it was the privilege to.

And privileges can easily be removed which they did here. it won’t be long and 
all guns will be gone here and our country will be totally defenceless . the 
only right we had in our constitution  was the right to own private property 
which included guns but the government changed our  constitution in 96 and 
removed that little right which meant they can take away what they like when 
they like.

So never take your RtKaBA for granted your so lucky to have it

Bill  

 

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:10 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Bill,
Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.
If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" 
(RtKaBA) revoked by your government. 
(The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our 
Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)

Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our 
Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST 
influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment, but, by 
extension, ALL of them!

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 




454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here

Bill

 

 

 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools 
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer 
and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in 
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits 
from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: 
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1
 
<http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email>
 &utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good


  _  


 

-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)

 

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and

RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

What can i say but wow that would bring down anything on earth

Bill

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 10:16 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm pushing a 260 gr bullet at 2002 feet per sec . It has about 200 ft lbs of 
energy MORE than a 1 oz 12ga slug

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 7:55 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here

Bill

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills [ 
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com?> 
mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

-Original Message-
From: MWF < <mailto:mwfos...@earthlink.net> mwfos...@earthlink.net>
To: legacy-ornamental-mills mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> 
mi...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools 
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer 
and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in 
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits 
from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: 
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

<http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email>

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

  _  

  _  

-Original Message- 
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental- <mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> mi...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good

  _  

-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE < <mailto:curtgeo...@wowway.com> curtgeo...@wowway.com>
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills mailto:mi...@googlegroups.com> 
mi...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.

"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter.

C.A.G.

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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread CURTIS GEORGE

HEY Peter! 
CALL ME! My phone burned up, (it went into the lake with me last spring. and it 
didn't make it.)  I need your number and your help. 
 (248) 224-0642 
  
C.A.G.  

- Original Message -

From: "Bill Bulkeley"  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Monday, May 2, 2016 7:55:12 PM 
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 



454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s a cannon 

You boys certainly do it big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here 

Bill 

  

  

  


From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 


  

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper 
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900 
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman 
Peter 


  


  


  


-Original Message- 
From: MWF  
To: legacy-ornamental-mills  
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 


I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools 
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer 
and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in 
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits 
from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do. 

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: 
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.) 

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email
 

Have a Wonderful week. 

Mac 






-Original Message- 
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental- mi...@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good 



  


-Original Message- 
From: CURTIS GEORGE < curtgeo...@wowway.com > 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills  
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am 
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 


 Hello everyone.  


I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-) 


  


By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look. 


to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all. 


I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market. 


If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it. 


  


  


"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter. 


  


C.A.G. 





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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

WOW!  Dirty Harry would be envious!-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 8:16 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm pushing a 260 gr bullet at 2002 feet per sec . It has about 200 ft lbs of energy MORE than a 1 oz 12ga slug

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 7:55 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second
from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s
a cannon

You boys certainly do it big over there. That
would be fun i wish we had that here

Bill

From:
parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 

Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM

To:
legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Mac, 

I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488
ci V10 in my Viper

I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900

I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by
him and his skill as a craftsman

Peter

-Original Message-

From: MWF <mwfos...@earthlink.net>

To: legacy-ornamental-mills mi...@googlegroups.com>

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is -
but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are you?" as a kid; or had
a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 

And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a
"name" or nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity
Planer and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these
bits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell:
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

-Original Message-

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 

Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 

To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is
very good

-Original Message-

From: CURTIS GEORGE <curtgeo...@wowway.com>

To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills mi...@googlegroups.com>

Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am

Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface
planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit hit a piece of metal inside
a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common since says Replace the broken
bit, so I did.)  ;-)

By the title of this message there was a
CD catalog in with the router bit inside my package.  I normally don't
look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper kind are not offered any more, I
figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of
all there equipment and test drive package on this CD as well .   Pretty
Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then
took a look at some of there tip and projects, then I started looking at all
the router bits that Magnate has made for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits of
late. I would rec emend that you do so ,  There bits are reasonably priced
and the catalog is something that you could spend hours looking at. there is a
lot of goodies to dream about on it.

"O" if I don't get a chance to log
in again before Sunday, I would like to wish everyone a very Happy Easter.

C.A.G.

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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mac, 
I've taken bear, boar and deer with it. I live about a  20 min drive from Curtis

I like big pistols. I also use a 50 cal Desert Eagle and a .375 hand cannon

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Peter,
Thank you for the reply.  UP or LP?  
Do you use the .454 for bear or silhouettes?  
What's the recoil like on that beast?
Have a wonderful week.
Mac

-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools 
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer 
and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in 
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits 
from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: 
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good

-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 
I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.
to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.
I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market.
If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.

"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter.

C.A.G.

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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills

I'm pushing a 260 gr bullet at 2002 feet per sec . It has about 200 ft lbs of 
energy MORE than a 1 oz 12ga slug

-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 7:55 pm
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per secondfrom a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grain projectile man that’sa cannon
You boys certainly do it big over there. Thatwould be fun i wish we had that 
here
Bill

From:parr454 via Legacy Ornamental 
Mills[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog& Holiday greetings.

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 
timesthe power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 
488ci V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed 
byhim and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is -but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or hada Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a"name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting 
Toolsbefore I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the 
InfinityPlaner and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit 
for use inflattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of 
thesebits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they 
sell:(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which isvery 
good

-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surfaceplanning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal insidea turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the brokenbit, so I did.)  ;-)

By the title of this message there was aCD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don'tlook at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, Ifigured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog ofall there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   PrettyNeat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and thentook a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at allthe router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits oflate. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably pricedand the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is alot of goodies to dream about on it.

"O" if I don't get a chance to login again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter.

C.A.G.

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RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Bill,Surprised that you can even "talk" about guns & ammo Down Under.If I remember correctly, you folks had your "Right to Keep and Bear Arms" (RtKaBA) revoked by your government. (The RtKaBA is what we have here in the USA.  I know you don't have our Constitution - so whatever it was in your founding documents.)Peter, I hope you (and all other Americans that appreciate our Constitution/Bill of Rights) are a member of the NRA.  They are THE MOST influential/powerful "protector" of NOT ONLY the Second Amendment, but, by extension, ALL of them!Mac-Original Message-
From: Bill Bulkeley 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:55 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second
from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s
a cannon

You boys certainly do it big over there. That
would be fun i wish we had that here

Bill

From:
parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To:
legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog
& Holiday greetings.

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488
ci V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is -
but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are you?" as a kid; or had
a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a
"name" or nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity
Planer and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these
bits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell:
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

-Original Message-

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is
very good

-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE <curtgeo...@wowway.com>
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills mi...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface
planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit hit a piece of metal inside
a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common since says Replace the broken
bit, so I did.)  ;-)

By the title of this message there was a
CD catalog in with the router bit inside my package.  I normally don't
look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper kind are not offered any more, I
figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of
all there equipment and test drive package on this CD as well .   Pretty
Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then
took a look at some of there tip and projects, then I started looking at all
the router bits that Magnate has made for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits of
late. I would rec emend that you do so ,  There bits are reasonably priced
and the catalog is something that you could spend hours looking at. there is a
lot of goodies to dream about on it.

"O" if I don't get a chance to log
in again before Sunday, I would like to wish everyone a very Happy Easter.

C.A.G.

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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Peter,Thank you for the reply.  UP or LP?  Do you use the .454 for bear or silhouettes?  What's the recoil like on that beast?Have a wonderful week.Mac-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 7:42 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

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From: MWF 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills 

Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 

And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: (NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

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Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM

To: legacy-ornamental-mi...@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is very good

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From: CURTIS GEORGE <curtgeo...@wowway.com>

To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills mi...@googlegroups.com>

Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am

Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.

"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish everyone a very Happy Easter.

C.A.G.

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RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

454 casull that’s like 1900 feet per second from a 240 grain or 1400 feet per 
second from a 360 grain projectile man that’s a cannon

You boys certainly do it big over there. That would be fun i wish we had that 
here

Bill

 

 

 

From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 9:42 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools 
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer 
and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in 
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits 
from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: 
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1
 
<http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email>
 &utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

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-Original Message- 
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good


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-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)

 

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.

 

 

"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills

Mac, 
I am Peter from Michigan. I hunt with a 454 Casull pistol, - about 2 1/2 times 
the power of a 44 magnum.  I never had a chevy w/a 454 but I've got a 488 ci 
V10 in my Viper
I joined here a few years ago when I purchased my mod 900
I have had the pleasure of meeting Curtis George in person and was impressed by 
him and his skill as a craftsman
Peter

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: MWF 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills 
Sent: Mon, May 2, 2016 5:47 pm
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.



I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools 
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer 
and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in 
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits 
from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: 
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac



-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good


 

 
-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.



 Hello everyone. 
I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)


By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.
to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.
I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market.
If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.




"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter.



C.A.G.




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RE: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

Great company magnate a great pleasure to deal with, many times in the past 
when legacy has let me down with mill parts magnate helped me out. I even 
bought one of my mills from them. Good company good router bits and good 
communication.

For surface planning and even turning on the legacy I use one of these 
http://www.benelongs.com.au/product/surface-planers-3-flute/

I’m sure you guys would have similar over your way. Very expensive but  a very 
good bit. I have not seen the infinity bit over here but if anyone has used one 
I would be interested in what they think of it when used on the legacy

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MWF
Sent: Tuesday, 3 May 2016 7:47 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are 
you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. 
And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or 
nickname.  

In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools 
before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer 
and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in 
flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits 
from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.

Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: 
(NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)

http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=email

Have a Wonderful week.

Mac

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-Original Message- 
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings. 

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good


  _  


 

-Original Message-
From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)

 

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.

 

 

"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter.

 

C.A.G.

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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

I'm not sure who "parr454" is - but they must have watched "Car 54 - Where are you?" as a kid; or had a Muscle car - Chevy w/a 454 cu inch engine. And I'll assume their last name is Parr - but they never gave us a "name" or nickname.  In any case, I think there is one bit that I'd buy from Infinity Cutting Tools before I'd buy the similar bit from Magnate.  That bit is the Infinity Planer and Dado line of bits - especially their Mega Planer/Dado bit for use in flattening a rough surfaced board.  Do any Group Members own one of these bits from Infinity?  Feedback/comments, please, if you do.Here is a link to their web page for the range of Planer/Dado bits they sell: (NOTE: Be sure to watch the video of the Mega bit in use.)http://www.infinitytools.com/Dado--Planer-Router-Bits/products/1016/?utm_source=Sun+5%2F1&utm_campaign=Japanese+Style+New+&utm_medium=emailHave a Wonderful week.Mac-Original Message-
From: parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills 
Sent: May 2, 2016 5:01 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is very good

-Original Message-

From: CURTIS GEORGE 

To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 

Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am

Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

 Hello everyone. 

I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.

to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.

I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made for the Legacy market.

If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.

"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish everyone a very Happy Easter.

C.A.G.

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Re: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-05-02 Thread parr454 via Legacy Ornamental Mills

On Magnate 's web sight they also have a Legacy Shop Notes section which is 
very good

 

 

 

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From: CURTIS GEORGE 
To: Legacy-Ornamental-Mills 
Sent: Fri, Mar 25, 2016 11:40 am
Subject: Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.



 Hello everyone. 
I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today.  (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.)  ;-)


By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package.  I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look.
to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well .   Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all.
I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market.
If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so ,  There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it.






"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter.










C.A.G.

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Magnate CD catalog & Holiday greetings.

2016-03-25 Thread CURTIS GEORGE

Hello everyone. 
I just got my new 1 1/4" surface planning bit form Magnate today. (my old bit 
hit a piece of metal inside a turning and chipped the carbide. so... common 
since says Replace the broken bit, so I did.) ;-) 

By the title of this message there was a CD catalog in with the router bit 
inside my package. I normally don't look at CD Catalogs, but since the paper 
kind are not offered any more, I figured why not take a look. 
to my surprise Legacy has there Catalog of all there equipment and test drive 
package on this CD as well . Pretty Neat stuff ! all in all. 
I just glanced at the CNC stuff, and then took a look at some of there tip and 
projects, then I started looking at all the router bits that Magnate has made 
for the Legacy market. 
If you have not bought any Magnate bits of late. I would rec emend that you do 
so , There bits are reasonably priced and the catalog is something that you 
could spend hours looking at. there is a lot of goodies to dream about on it. 



"O" if I don't get a chance to log in again before Sunday, I would like to wish 
everyone a very Happy Easter. 






C.A.G. 

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Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-27 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)


Mac,
As long as you are using set indexes and not using marks you drew on the 
surface of the piece, every single cut will be the same. there will be 
no chance of large and small spacing.  I start by getting my diameter, 
minus 1/16 I waste in the cut so 4-1/8 would be 4" I then figure out how 
wide I want my reed, lets say 3/8" or .375.  I take 4 X pi 3.14= 12.56  
the I divide 12.56 by my reed size .625 = 20.096  Close enough to 20 to 
achieve the desired effect.  Crank handle index would be 20 divided by 4 
= 5 inch pitch gearing.

Mike
OK
On 3/27/2014 12:14 AM, mwfos...@earthlink.net wrote:

Mike,

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use 
on a project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an 
outside diameter of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct 
bit to use to achieve a proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed 
and the last reed you cut come together perfectly - to the point where 
you can not tell where the start/finish reed was because they all look 
alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - meaning I'd need to 
either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it up.  In 
this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking 
Shows they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the 
"Perfect" final product - something they had calculated out long ago.


Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that 
provides the needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get 
near perfect results on cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", 
or z.z".  Using that bit with any of the listed diameters will allow 
for proper "closure" between the initial and final reeding cuts on 
that cylinder.


Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic.
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the 
reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?

Mac



-Original Message-
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)"
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost
$240 for one.  But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody
want to get a special bit made like a reeding bit with a profile
of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version of this one?
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

Mike
OK


On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in
the past, The only problem that I can see what this, I just dont
see much of an advantage of using it, Meaning, Yes it looks
solidly built, and Im sure that tight tolerances will be easily
 make-able., But you will not be able to get any more depth of
cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a
matter of course you could modify that unit, but is the work
worth the effort??? (that's a personal choice that only you can
make.)
To tell you the truth, I too, am on the quest of making myself a
better Z axis for my 1000ex as well.
I will let you and everyone know how my project works out, After
Im done. ;-)
I wish you luck, and a good night.
talk to you more latter.
C.A.G.



MCLS is a place that i have ordered some of my router bits.
They do make some that fit the legacy type of milling. Take a
look around their site to see if they may have what you are
looking for. Some bits look to be a little cheaper than
Magnate and some more.

Attached is a link to another one of their new products that
looks interesting to me to make a Z-axis. I have not had the
shop time lately to investigate to see if this will fit on
the plate of the 1000 unit that i have, but this looks to be
much more beefy construction that some of the other router
mounts in the past that I have considered.


http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/u-turn-lift.html


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Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-27 Thread Okla Mike (Liltwisted)

Is there anything out there that will do 62 index cuts that is manual?
If you do the math the difference would be 1/100th of an inch per cut to
make them 60 indexes on a 4-3/4" round 1/4" reed. Unless you count,
you'll never know. I think that is what is called creative license. So
I would use a X2 gear set 15 inch pitch. It would take 60 turns of the
handle to accomplish one full stock revolution so make a cut on every
turn. If there had to be 62, I could do it but it would only take .96 of
a turn to accomplish. I like to fudge it a bit instead.

Mike
OK
On 3/27/2014 2:56 AM, Tim Krause wrote:
Oh, then there is of course Mike Pung's version of indexing that
claims to meet any index need. I don't know if that is true. For
example, can it work out a 62 index cut?
http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/pungs_index_method/pungs_index_method.html Man,
even more to contemplate.

-Tim

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*To:*legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
<mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com>

*Sent:*Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

*Subject:*Reeding and Magnate router bits

Mike,

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table
that provides the needed info? (i.e. - if you use bit
#1234, you can get near perfect results on cylinders with
diameters of w.w", x.x", y.y", or z.z". Using that bit
with any of the listed diameters will allow for proper
"closure" between the initial and final reeding cuts on
that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on
the topic.
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair
up with the reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac

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Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

That works.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Bulkeley 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 2:23 AM
  Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  Sorry tim i cant seem to find that i did click on a few options

  https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c1l2rk3x7x8u8tp/a7CMdnFUk0/New%20folder%20%282%29

  see if this one works i have had trouble sharing this before

  if id doesn’t work i will try and share it with you and you can perhaps post 
it on line some how your self

  Bill  

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
  Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 9:29 PM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  To clarify, the url was a copy of the address in your browser right?  There a 
share button in the public folder that you need to click on.  Then in the lower 
right side it has a link button that copies the real address to your folder.  
Then hit ctrl-v to paste it into an email.  That how it works on my version I'm 
seeing. 

  -Tim

- Original Message - 

From: Bill Bulkeley 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:04 AM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

There is some tutorial on flutes and reeds here

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/New%20folder%20(2)

under basic milling techniques 3 and 4

Bill

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 6:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped 
out the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula 
that would work.  That's an interesting project. 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I 
bet it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

-Tim

  - Original Message - 

  From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

  Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  Mike, 

  You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
  How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
  I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows 
they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final 
product - something they had calculated out long ago.

  Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides 
the needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect 
results on cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that 
bit with any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between 
the initial and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

  Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
  For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the 
reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?
  Mac

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-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
    To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 
for one.  But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a 
special bit made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide 
version of this one?
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

Mike
OK

-

RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-27 Thread Bill Bulkeley

Sorry tim i cant seem to find that i did click on a few options

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c1l2rk3x7x8u8tp/a7CMdnFUk0/New%20folder%20%282%29

see if this one works i have had trouble sharing this before

if id doesn’t work i will try and share it with you and you can perhaps post it 
on line some how your self

Bill  

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 9:29 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

To clarify, the url was a copy of the address in your browser right?  There a 
share button in the public folder that you need to click on.  Then in the lower 
right side it has a link button that copies the real address to your folder.  
Then hit ctrl-v to paste it into an email.  That how it works on my version I'm 
seeing. 

 

-Tim

 

- Original Message - 

From: Bill Bulkeley <mailto:bulke...@mmnet.com.au>  

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:04 AM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

There is some tutorial on flutes and reeds here

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/New%20folder%20(2)

under basic milling techniques 3 and 4

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 6:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

 

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I bet 
it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

 

-Tim

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows they 
were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final product - 
something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides the 
needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect results on 
cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that bit with 
any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between the initial 
and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the reeding 
bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for one.  
But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special bit 
made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version of 
this one?
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

Mike
OK


  _  


 

On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

 

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the past, The 
only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an advantage of 
using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that tight 
tolerances will be easily  make-able., But you will not be able to get any more 
depth of cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a matter of 
course you could modify that unit, but is the work worth the effort??? (that's 
a pe

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

I need to clarify the leaf comment.  The problem only shows up as the number of 
reeds decreases for the size of stock being used.  If a piece that is 11.940" 
in diameter is reeded with a 1/4" radius bit 72 times the effect is almost 
perfect.  On a 1.953" dia piece index 24 times you can see a slight point at 
the tip.  Clearly a smaller reeding bit is needed on small diameter parts if 
you are indeed going for the perfect look. 

Thanks Mac for dusting off some of the cob webs in my head. I'm hitting the 
sack.

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Krause 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:08 AM
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits


  Nice post John,

  Well after modeling, I'm getting close to saying you cannot make a perfect 
round bead with the current Magnate bits.  Each reed looks more like a pointed 
leaf a little and you will never get a full round bead. Having a little flat in 
between may help a little. No sanding required. 

  I do like thinking in polygons. After all, the router bit is cutting a 
specific width regardless of the diameter of the stock. I think I have a spread 
sheet that allows me to calculate side width and determines diameter.  I'll 
have to go check.  Our local guru in these maters is Ron Kirsh.  He probably 
can whip out a formula.  

  I wonder how many people will be scratching their heads in the morning and 
getting lost.  

  -Tim

- Original Message - 
From: John Sasinowski 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits


I was thinking about this problem on my drive home from work just now. 
My apologies in advance if these ramblings aren't particularly helpful or 
insightful :-)


I was thinking along the line of successively more rigorous constraints on 
the acceptable solutions.
Also note that the shapes I'm describing are looking at the cross-section 
of the workpiece.
One other choice of terminology: "diameter of the router bit" is shorthand 
for "diameter of the volume of the spinning router bit".


To begin, don't think of the work involving circles - rather, the machining 
steps create an N-sided 'polygon' where N is the number of reeds, N is also the 
number of router passes, and each 'side' is the shape left when moving the 
router bit through the workpiece.


So, as a first step, ignore the profile of the bit.  In fact, consider it 
flat (like a bottom cleaning bit).
The first criterion for an acceptable solution is that each pass just touch 
the edges of neighboring passes, so no extra wood remains at the top of each 
reed.
In this case, the resulting shape is an N-sided polygon with the width of a 
side == the diameter of the router bit.
Therefore, there is a family of solutions for workpieces of different radii 
based on N, the number of 'reeds', where N is an integer >= 3.


Next, consider plunging the reeding bit to different depths.
Based on the preceding model, this admits additional solutions, as now the 
width of a side == the diameter of the router bit at the surface (given the 
router profile, this is an increasing function of plunge depth).
So there are now two variables: N and the width at plunge depth, so the 
family of solutions is much larger.


At this point, we have many solutions.  However, a lot of them are going to 
be ugly - or, more likely, interesting but not reed-like.
Just because adjacent passes of the router meet at their edges (so no 
unmilled surface remains) does not guarantee a smooth intersection.
In fact, at full plunge depth, a truly smooth intersection should only 
occur for one value of N - and, mathematically, that may only happen for N = 
infinity.
One could establish the smoothness constraint - which if my memory doesn't 
fail me would likely be C(1) continuity, or continuity of 1st derivatives at 
the intersection.
Said differently, the tangents of the router profiles of adjacent paths 
should be parallel.
From a different point of view, if one oriented the center of the reed to 
point vertically, the aforementioned 1st derivatives should be 0 (horizontal).
Given the geometry of the router profile, one may be able to solve for the 
workpiece radius for a particular depth of cut and N.
How sparse the solution space is, I am not certain.


The last step in refining the constraints is to provide for a measure of 
the discontinuity of 1st derivatives (I know if I opened up a calculus textbook 
I'll find the formulation) and provide this as a constraint.
In other words, provided an allowed range of 'sharpness' of the junction of 
two router passes, generate the range of legal solutions.
I suspect this gets messy quickly -

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

To clarify, the url was a copy of the address in your browser right?  There a 
share button in the public folder that you need to click on.  Then in the lower 
right side it has a link button that copies the real address to your folder.  
Then hit ctrl-v to paste it into an email.  That how it works on my version I'm 
seeing. 

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Bulkeley 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:04 AM
  Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits


  There is some tutorial on flutes and reeds here

  https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/New%20folder%20(2)

  under basic milling techniques 3 and 4

   

  Bill

   

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
  Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 6:25 PM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

   

  On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

   

  There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

   

  Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I 
bet it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

   

  -Tim

   

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows 
they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final 
product - something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides 
the needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect 
results on cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that 
bit with any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between 
the initial and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the 
reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac







  -Original Message- 
  From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
  Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

  I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for 
one.  But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special 
bit made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version 
of this one?
  http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

  Mike
  OK


--

   

  On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

 

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the 
past, The only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an 
advantage of using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that 
tight tolerances will be easily  make-able., But you will not be able to get 
any more depth of cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a 
matter of course you could modify that unit, but is the work worth the 
effort??? (that's a personal choice that only you can make.)

To tell you the truth, I too, am on the quest of making myself a better 
Z axis for my 1000ex as well. 

I will let you and everyone know how my p

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

wrong url.  Can you send the files as attachments?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Bill Bulkeley 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:04 AM
  Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  There is some tutorial on flutes and reeds here

  https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/New%20folder%20(2)

  under basic milling techniques 3 and 4

  Bill

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
  Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 6:25 PM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

  There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

  Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I 
bet it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

  -Tim

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows 
they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final 
product - something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides 
the needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect 
results on cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that 
bit with any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between 
the initial and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the 
reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac

  -Original Message- 
  From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
  Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

  I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for 
one.  But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special 
bit made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version 
of this one?
  http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

  Mike
  OK

--

  On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the 
past, The only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an 
advantage of using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that 
tight tolerances will be easily  make-able., But you will not be able to get 
any more depth of cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a 
matter of course you could modify that unit, but is the work worth the 
effort??? (that's a personal choice that only you can make.)

To tell you the truth, I too, am on the quest of making myself a better 
Z axis for my 1000ex as well. 

I will let you and everyone know how my project works out, After Im 
done. ;-)

I wish you luck, and a good night.

talk to you more latter.

C.A.G.

  MCLS is a place that i have ordered some of my router bits. They do 
make some th

RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-27 Thread Bill Bulkeley

There is some tutorial on flutes and reeds here

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Public/New%20folder%20(2)

under basic milling techniques 3 and 4

 

Bill

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, 27 March 2014 6:25 PM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

 

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I bet 
it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

 

-Tim

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows they 
were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final product - 
something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides the 
needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect results on 
cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that bit with 
any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between the initial 
and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the reeding 
bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac


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-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for one.  
But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special bit 
made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version of 
this one?
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

Mike
OK


  _  


 

On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

 

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the past, The 
only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an advantage of 
using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that tight 
tolerances will be easily  make-able., But you will not be able to get any more 
depth of cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a matter of 
course you could modify that unit, but is the work worth the effort??? (that's 
a personal choice that only you can make.)

To tell you the truth, I too, am on the quest of making myself a better Z axis 
for my 1000ex as well. 

I will let you and everyone know how my project works out, After Im done. ;-)

I wish you luck, and a good night.

talk to you more latter.

C.A.G.

 


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MCLS is a place that i have ordered some of my router bits. They do make some 
that fit the legacy type of milling. Take a look around their site to see if 
they may have what you are looking for. Some bits look to be a little cheaper 
than Magnate and some more. 

 

Attached is a link to another one of their new products that looks interesting 
to me to make a Z-axis. I have not had the shop time lately to investigate to 
see if this will fit on the plate of the 1000 unit that i have, but this looks 
to be much more beefy construction that some of the other router mounts in the 
past that I have considered. 

 
http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/u-turn-lift.html

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Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

Mac,

This is an online polygon tool.  Use the width of your bit as "A", and decide 
how many indexes you would like (number of sides).  The "R" gives you the 
radius of your wood.  Makes sense to me at this hour.  I'll continue to play 
with this  and see if I can get something into chart format.  There's limited 
number of bits and the diameter only has to go to 12".

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Krause 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 1:08 AM
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits


  Nice post John,

  Well after modeling, I'm getting close to saying you cannot make a perfect 
round bead with the current Magnate bits.  Each reed looks more like a pointed 
leaf a little and you will never get a full round bead. Having a little flat in 
between may help a little. No sanding required. 

  I do like thinking in polygons. After all, the router bit is cutting a 
specific width regardless of the diameter of the stock. I think I have a spread 
sheet that allows me to calculate side width and determines diameter.  I'll 
have to go check.  Our local guru in these maters is Ron Kirsh.  He probably 
can whip out a formula.  

  I wonder how many people will be scratching their heads in the morning and 
getting lost.  

  -Tim

- Original Message - 
From: John Sasinowski 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits


I was thinking about this problem on my drive home from work just now. 
My apologies in advance if these ramblings aren't particularly helpful or 
insightful :-)


I was thinking along the line of successively more rigorous constraints on 
the acceptable solutions.
Also note that the shapes I'm describing are looking at the cross-section 
of the workpiece.
One other choice of terminology: "diameter of the router bit" is shorthand 
for "diameter of the volume of the spinning router bit".


To begin, don't think of the work involving circles - rather, the machining 
steps create an N-sided 'polygon' where N is the number of reeds, N is also the 
number of router passes, and each 'side' is the shape left when moving the 
router bit through the workpiece.


So, as a first step, ignore the profile of the bit.  In fact, consider it 
flat (like a bottom cleaning bit).
The first criterion for an acceptable solution is that each pass just touch 
the edges of neighboring passes, so no extra wood remains at the top of each 
reed.
In this case, the resulting shape is an N-sided polygon with the width of a 
side == the diameter of the router bit.
Therefore, there is a family of solutions for workpieces of different radii 
based on N, the number of 'reeds', where N is an integer >= 3.


Next, consider plunging the reeding bit to different depths.
Based on the preceding model, this admits additional solutions, as now the 
width of a side == the diameter of the router bit at the surface (given the 
router profile, this is an increasing function of plunge depth).
So there are now two variables: N and the width at plunge depth, so the 
family of solutions is much larger.


At this point, we have many solutions.  However, a lot of them are going to 
be ugly - or, more likely, interesting but not reed-like.
Just because adjacent passes of the router meet at their edges (so no 
unmilled surface remains) does not guarantee a smooth intersection.
In fact, at full plunge depth, a truly smooth intersection should only 
occur for one value of N - and, mathematically, that may only happen for N = 
infinity.
One could establish the smoothness constraint - which if my memory doesn't 
fail me would likely be C(1) continuity, or continuity of 1st derivatives at 
the intersection.
Said differently, the tangents of the router profiles of adjacent paths 
should be parallel.
From a different point of view, if one oriented the center of the reed to 
point vertically, the aforementioned 1st derivatives should be 0 (horizontal).
Given the geometry of the router profile, one may be able to solve for the 
workpiece radius for a particular depth of cut and N.
How sparse the solution space is, I am not certain.


The last step in refining the constraints is to provide for a measure of 
the discontinuity of 1st derivatives (I know if I opened up a calculus textbook 
I'll find the formulation) and provide this as a constraint.
In other words, provided an allowed range of 'sharpness' of the junction of 
two router passes, generate the range of legal solutions.
I suspect this gets messy quickly - or may simply reduce to solving for the 
boundaries ('sharpness' of 0 and 'sharpness' at the maximum allowed tol

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

Nice post John,

Well after modeling, I'm getting close to saying you cannot make a perfect 
round bead with the current Magnate bits.  Each reed looks more like a pointed 
leaf a little and you will never get a full round bead. Having a little flat in 
between may help a little. No sanding required. 

I do like thinking in polygons. After all, the router bit is cutting a specific 
width regardless of the diameter of the stock. I think I have a spread sheet 
that allows me to calculate side width and determines diameter.  I'll have to 
go check.  Our local guru in these maters is Ron Kirsh.  He probably can whip 
out a formula.  

I wonder how many people will be scratching their heads in the morning and 
getting lost.  

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: John Sasinowski 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 11:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits


  I was thinking about this problem on my drive home from work just now.
  My apologies in advance if these ramblings aren't particularly helpful or 
insightful :-)


  I was thinking along the line of successively more rigorous constraints on 
the acceptable solutions.
  Also note that the shapes I'm describing are looking at the cross-section of 
the workpiece.
  One other choice of terminology: "diameter of the router bit" is shorthand 
for "diameter of the volume of the spinning router bit".


  To begin, don't think of the work involving circles - rather, the machining 
steps create an N-sided 'polygon' where N is the number of reeds, N is also the 
number of router passes, and each 'side' is the shape left when moving the 
router bit through the workpiece.


  So, as a first step, ignore the profile of the bit.  In fact, consider it 
flat (like a bottom cleaning bit).
  The first criterion for an acceptable solution is that each pass just touch 
the edges of neighboring passes, so no extra wood remains at the top of each 
reed.
  In this case, the resulting shape is an N-sided polygon with the width of a 
side == the diameter of the router bit.
  Therefore, there is a family of solutions for workpieces of different radii 
based on N, the number of 'reeds', where N is an integer >= 3.


  Next, consider plunging the reeding bit to different depths.
  Based on the preceding model, this admits additional solutions, as now the 
width of a side == the diameter of the router bit at the surface (given the 
router profile, this is an increasing function of plunge depth).
  So there are now two variables: N and the width at plunge depth, so the 
family of solutions is much larger.


  At this point, we have many solutions.  However, a lot of them are going to 
be ugly - or, more likely, interesting but not reed-like.
  Just because adjacent passes of the router meet at their edges (so no 
unmilled surface remains) does not guarantee a smooth intersection.
  In fact, at full plunge depth, a truly smooth intersection should only occur 
for one value of N - and, mathematically, that may only happen for N = infinity.
  One could establish the smoothness constraint - which if my memory doesn't 
fail me would likely be C(1) continuity, or continuity of 1st derivatives at 
the intersection.
  Said differently, the tangents of the router profiles of adjacent paths 
should be parallel.
  From a different point of view, if one oriented the center of the reed to 
point vertically, the aforementioned 1st derivatives should be 0 (horizontal).
  Given the geometry of the router profile, one may be able to solve for the 
workpiece radius for a particular depth of cut and N.
  How sparse the solution space is, I am not certain.


  The last step in refining the constraints is to provide for a measure of the 
discontinuity of 1st derivatives (I know if I opened up a calculus textbook 
I'll find the formulation) and provide this as a constraint.
  In other words, provided an allowed range of 'sharpness' of the junction of 
two router passes, generate the range of legal solutions.
  I suspect this gets messy quickly - or may simply reduce to solving for the 
boundaries ('sharpness' of 0 and 'sharpness' at the maximum allowed tolerance).







  On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 12:03 AM, Jeff Becker  wrote:

In  Cad program you are right about using the plunge depth to figure the 
circumference,  But with the method I stated using Pi you need to use the 
diameter of the part but the diameter of the bit at the lunge depth.



The easiest way to measure the depth of the bit at plunge depth is to 
plunge it in a scrap piece of wood and use a digital caliper.



Jeff Becker



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RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-27 Thread Jeff Becker

In  Cad program you are right about using the plunge depth to figure the 
circumference,  But with the method I stated using Pi you need to use the 
diameter of the part but the diameter of the bit at the lunge depth.

 

The easiest way to measure the depth of the bit at plunge depth is to plunge it 
in a scrap piece of wood and use a digital caliper.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 4:02 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

 

The funny thing is you need to really account as well for the depth of cut and 
that is the actual circumference that should be worked with for a perfect part 
diameter and bead height...In theory...I'm playing around with this right now.  
Depth of cut might not matter in the real world.  I'm looking at what the CAD 
model says. 

 

-Tim

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker <mailto:jwb...@windstream.net>  

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:48 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

In all honesty I didn’t remember where I learned that, I was thinking it was 
high School Geometry, but it may have been from Legacy.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

That's the jist of Legacy's tutorial :-)

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker <mailto:jwb...@windstream.net>  

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:44 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

The easiest way I could explain figuring the spacing out without using CAD 
would be Knowing how to figure the circumference is multiplying the Diameter  
by Pi 2 inch circle X 3.1416  will have a circumference of 6.2832 then multiply 
the diameter of the bit at plunge depth by the number of flutes subtract that 
from the circumference then divide the balance by the number of spaces you will 
then have your spacing.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:41 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

I was going to mention I really do my design work in CAD,  but I try to keep 
things simple on this list.  I'll have to try out Legacy's method and see if it 
saves me any time from what I'm doing. 

 

Thanks, 

 

-Tim

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker <mailto:jwb...@windstream.net>  

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:29 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Tim the way Legacy recommends figuring flutes on CNC is to draw a circle the 
diameter of the part, draw another circle the radius of the cutter. Plunge it 
into the first circle the depth of the cut then make an array with the number 
of cuts you plan.  Then you can make another circle lower on the page and draw 
lines to get an idea of the side view.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

 

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I bet 
it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

 

-Tim

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits


The funny thing is you need to really account as well for the depth of cut and 
that is the actual circumference that should be worked with for a perfect part 
diameter and bead height...In theory...I'm playing around with this right now.  
Depth of cut might not matter in the real world.  I'm looking at what the CAD 
model says. 

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Becker 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:48 PM
  Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits


  In all honesty I didn’t remember where I learned that, I was thinking it was 
high School Geometry, but it may have been from Legacy.

   

  Jeff Becker

   

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:53 AM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

   

  That's the jist of Legacy's tutorial :-)

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:44 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

The easiest way I could explain figuring the spacing out without using CAD 
would be Knowing how to figure the circumference is multiplying the Diameter  
by Pi 2 inch circle X 3.1416  will have a circumference of 6.2832 then multiply 
the diameter of the bit at plunge depth by the number of flutes subtract that 
from the circumference then divide the balance by the number of spaces you will 
then have your spacing.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:41 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

I was going to mention I really do my design work in CAD,  but I try to 
keep things simple on this list.  I'll have to try out Legacy's method and see 
if it saves me any time from what I'm doing. 

 

Thanks, 

 

-Tim

 

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: Jeff Becker 

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:29 PM

      Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

   

  Tim the way Legacy recommends figuring flutes on CNC is to draw a circle 
the diameter of the part, draw another circle the radius of the cutter. Plunge 
it into the first circle the depth of the cut then make an array with the 
number of cuts you plan.  Then you can make another circle lower on the page 
and draw lines to get an idea of the side view.

   

  Jeff Becker

   

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25 AM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

   

  On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

   

  There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped 
out the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula 
that would work.  That's an interesting project. 

   

  Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so 
I bet it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

   

  -Tim

   

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on 
a project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside 
diameter of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to 
achieve a proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut 
come together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the 
start/finish reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short 
or long - meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts 
to close it up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my 
start/finish point was (and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking 
Shows they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final 
product - something they had calcula

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

Oh, then there is of course Mike Pung's version of indexing that claims to meet
any index need. I don't know if that is true. For example, can it work out a
62 index cut?
http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/pungs_index_method/pungs_index_method.html
Man, even more to contemplate.

-Tim

- Original Message -

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

Mike,

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides
the needed info? (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect
results on cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x", y.y", or z.z". Using that
bit with any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between
the initial and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic.
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the
reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac

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RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-26 Thread Jeff Becker

In all honesty I didn’t remember where I learned that, I was thinking it was 
high School Geometry, but it may have been from Legacy.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:53 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

That's the jist of Legacy's tutorial :-)

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker <mailto:jwb...@windstream.net>  

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:44 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

The easiest way I could explain figuring the spacing out without using CAD 
would be Knowing how to figure the circumference is multiplying the Diameter  
by Pi 2 inch circle X 3.1416  will have a circumference of 6.2832 then multiply 
the diameter of the bit at plunge depth by the number of flutes subtract that 
from the circumference then divide the balance by the number of spaces you will 
then have your spacing.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:41 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

I was going to mention I really do my design work in CAD,  but I try to keep 
things simple on this list.  I'll have to try out Legacy's method and see if it 
saves me any time from what I'm doing. 

 

Thanks, 

 

-Tim

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker <mailto:jwb...@windstream.net>  

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:29 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Tim the way Legacy recommends figuring flutes on CNC is to draw a circle the 
diameter of the part, draw another circle the radius of the cutter. Plunge it 
into the first circle the depth of the cut then make an array with the number 
of cuts you plan.  Then you can make another circle lower on the page and draw 
lines to get an idea of the side view.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

 

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I bet 
it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

 

-Tim

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows they 
were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final product - 
something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides the 
needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect results on 
cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that bit with 
any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between the initial 
and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the reeding 
bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac


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  _  


-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate route

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

That's the jist of Legacy's tutorial :-)
  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Becker 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:44 PM
  Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  The easiest way I could explain figuring the spacing out without using CAD 
would be Knowing how to figure the circumference is multiplying the Diameter  
by Pi 2 inch circle X 3.1416  will have a circumference of 6.2832 then multiply 
the diameter of the bit at plunge depth by the number of flutes subtract that 
from the circumference then divide the balance by the number of spaces you will 
then have your spacing.

  Jeff Becker

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:41 AM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  I was going to mention I really do my design work in CAD,  but I try to keep 
things simple on this list.  I'll have to try out Legacy's method and see if it 
saves me any time from what I'm doing. 

  Thanks, 

  -Tim

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:29 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

Tim the way Legacy recommends figuring flutes on CNC is to draw a circle 
the diameter of the part, draw another circle the radius of the cutter. Plunge 
it into the first circle the depth of the cut then make an array with the 
number of cuts you plan.  Then you can make another circle lower on the page 
and draw lines to get an idea of the side view.

Jeff Becker

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped 
out the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula 
that would work.  That's an interesting project. 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I 
bet it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

-Tim

  - Original Message - 

  From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

  Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  Mike, 

  You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
  How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
  I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows 
they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final 
product - something they had calculated out long ago.

  Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides 
the needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect 
results on cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that 
bit with any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between 
the initial and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

  Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
  For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the 
reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?
  Mac

--

--

-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 
for one.  But

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

This is going to be trickier than I thought.  We also need to take into account 
the stock number of indexes available to the average user.  I have a chart of 
indexes on a hidden page. 
http://artscopes.com/legacyornamentalmill/tools/index_system/index.html 

-Tim

  - Original Message - 
  From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM
  Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

  Mike,

  You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
  How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
  I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows 
they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final 
product - something they had calculated out long ago.

  Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides the 
needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect results on 
cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that bit with 
any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between the initial 
and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

  Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
  For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the reeding 
bits that Magnate currently sells?
  Mac

--

--

-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for 
one.  But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special 
bit made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version 
of this one?
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

Mike
OK

On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

  Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

  As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the past, 
The only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an advantage 
of using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that tight 
tolerances will be easily  make-able., But you will not be able to get any more 
depth of cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a matter of 
course you could modify that unit, but is the work worth the effort??? (that's 
a personal choice that only you can make.)
  To tell you the truth, I too, am on the quest of making myself a better Z 
axis for my 1000ex as well. 
  I will let you and everyone know how my project works out, After Im done. 
;-)
  I wish you luck, and a good night.
  talk to you more latter.
  C.A.G.

--

MCLS is a place that i have ordered some of my router bits. They do 
make some that fit the legacy type of milling. Take a look around their site to 
see if they may have what you are looking for. Some bits look to be a little 
cheaper than Magnate and some more. 

Attached is a link to another one of their new products that looks 
interesting to me to make a Z-axis. I have not had the shop time lately to 
investigate to see if this will fit on the plate of the 1000 unit that i have, 
but this looks to be much more beefy construction that some of the other router 
mounts in the past that I have considered. 

http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shopsite_sc/store/html/smarthtml/pages/u-turn-lift.html

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RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-26 Thread Jeff Becker

The easiest way I could explain figuring the spacing out without using CAD 
would be Knowing how to figure the circumference is multiplying the Diameter  
by Pi 2 inch circle X 3.1416  will have a circumference of 6.2832 then multiply 
the diameter of the bit at plunge depth by the number of flutes subtract that 
from the circumference then divide the balance by the number of spaces you will 
then have your spacing.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:41 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

I was going to mention I really do my design work in CAD,  but I try to keep 
things simple on this list.  I'll have to try out Legacy's method and see if it 
saves me any time from what I'm doing. 

 

Thanks, 

 

-Tim

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: Jeff Becker <mailto:jwb...@windstream.net>  

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:29 PM

Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Tim the way Legacy recommends figuring flutes on CNC is to draw a circle the 
diameter of the part, draw another circle the radius of the cutter. Plunge it 
into the first circle the depth of the cut then make an array with the number 
of cuts you plan.  Then you can make another circle lower on the page and draw 
lines to get an idea of the side view.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

 

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I bet 
it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

 

-Tim

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows they 
were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final product - 
something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides the 
needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect results on 
cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that bit with 
any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between the initial 
and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the reeding 
bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for one.  
But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special bit 
made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version of 
this one?
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

Mike
OK


  _  


 

On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

 

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the past, The 
only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an advantage of 
using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that tight 
tolerances will be

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

I was going to mention I really do my design work in CAD,  but I try to keep 
things simple on this list.  I'll have to try out Legacy's method and see if it 
saves me any time from what I'm doing. 

Thanks, 

-Tim


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jeff Becker 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 10:29 PM
  Subject: RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits


  Tim the way Legacy recommends figuring flutes on CNC is to draw a circle the 
diameter of the part, draw another circle the radius of the cutter. Plunge it 
into the first circle the depth of the cut then make an array with the number 
of cuts you plan.  Then you can make another circle lower on the page and draw 
lines to get an idea of the side view.

   

  Jeff Becker

   

  From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
  Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25 AM
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

   

  On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

   

  There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

   

  Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I 
bet it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

   

  -Tim

   

   

   

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

    Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows 
they were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final 
product - something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides 
the needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect 
results on cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that 
bit with any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between 
the initial and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the 
reeding bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac







  -Original Message- 
  From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
  Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
  To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

  I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for 
one.  But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special 
bit made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version 
of this one?
  http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

  Mike
  OK


--

   

  On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

 

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the 
past, The only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an 
advantage of using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that 
tight tolerances will be easily  make-able., But you will not be able to get 
any more depth of cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a 
matter of course you could modify that unit, but is the work worth the 
effort??? (that's a personal choice that only you can make.)

To tell you the truth, I too, am on the quest of making myself a better 
Z axis f

RE: Reeding and Magnate router bits

2014-03-26 Thread Jeff Becker

Tim the way Legacy recommends figuring flutes on CNC is to draw a circle the 
diameter of the part, draw another circle the radius of the cutter. Plunge it 
into the first circle the depth of the cut then make an array with the number 
of cuts you plan.  Then you can make another circle lower on the page and draw 
lines to get an idea of the side view.

 

Jeff Becker

 

From: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
[mailto:legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Krause
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 3:25 AM
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

On the subject of reeding, there is a great legacy tutorial right here: 
http://legacywoodworking.com/technique.cfm?techniqueID=4

 

There was never any chart, but I developed a computer program that mapped out 
the possibilities.  I'll see if I can turn it into a spreadsheet formula that 
would work.  That's an interesting project. 

 

Legacy's Demo when I saw them, they made the same thing all day long, so I bet 
it was pretty well figured out in advance and repeated often. :-) 

 

-Tim

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: mwfos...@earthlink.net 

To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:14 PM

Subject: Reeding and Magnate router bits

 

Mike, 

You bring up an interesting point.  That generated my question:
How do you determine the correct (most effective) reeding bit to use on a 
project?  If you need a post (cylinder) that needs to have an outside diameter 
of 4 1/2 inches - how do you determine the correct bit to use to achieve a 
proper reeding job. (Meaning the first reed and the last reed you cut come 
together perfectly - to the point where you can not tell where the start/finish 
reed was because they all look alike.)  My luck, I'd end up short or long - 
meaning I'd need to either "shrink" or "expand" my last 2 or 3 cuts to close it 
up.  In this case you'd easily be able to tell where my start/finish point was 
(and you'd hide it towards the back of the project).  
I bet that when Legacy was demonstrating reeding at The Woodworking Shows they 
were using a bit and cylinder combo that created the "Perfect" final product - 
something they had calculated out long ago.

Leads me to ask: Did/does Legacy (or Magnate) have a table that provides the 
needed info?  (i.e. - if you use bit #1234, you can get near perfect results on 
cylinders with diameters of w.w", x.x",  y.y", or z.z".  Using that bit with 
any of the listed diameters will allow for proper "closure" between the initial 
and final reeding cuts on that cylinder.

Thanks for the discussion - and looking forward to more on the topic. 
For starters, what are the "ideal" cylinder sizes to pair up with the reeding 
bits that Magnate currently sells?
Mac


  _  


  _  


-Original Message- 
From: "Okla Mike (Liltwisted)" 
Sent: Mar 26, 2014 7:39 PM 
To: legacy-ornamental-mills@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Magnate router bits 

I spoke with Magnate today at getting a bit made.  It will cost $240 for one.  
But at 10 or more it will cost $90 each.  Anybody want to get a special bit 
made like a reeding bit with a profile of a 1" rope?  Or a carbide version of 
this one?
http://ornamentalmills.com/turningaround/Reed.htm

Mike
OK


  _  


 

On 3/26/2014 5:41 PM, CURTIS GEORGE wrote:

Thank you Dexter. I will take a look , at the router bits.

 

As far as your Z axis idea, its one that I have had as well in the past, The 
only problem that I can see what this, I just dont see much of an advantage of 
using it, Meaning, Yes it looks solidly built, and Im sure that tight 
tolerances will be easily  make-able., But you will not be able to get any more 
depth of cut than what you already have with the plunge router. Of a matter of 
course you could modify that unit, but is the work worth the effort??? (that's 
a personal choice that only you can make.)

To tell you the truth, I too, am on the quest of making myself a better Z axis 
for my 1000ex as well. 

I will let you and everyone know how my project works out, After Im done. ;-)

I wish you luck, and a good night.

talk to you more latter.

C.A.G.

 


  _  


 

MCLS is a place that i have ordered some of my router bits. They do make some 
that fit the legacy type of milling. Take a look around their site to see if 
they may have what you are looking for. Some bits look to be a little cheaper 
than Magnate and some more. 

 

Attached is a link to another one of their new products that looks interesting 
to me to make a Z-axis. I have not had the shop time lately to investigate to 
see if this will fit on the plate of the 1000 unit that i have, but this looks 
to be much more beefy construction that some of the other router mounts in the 
past that I have considered.

Re: Reeding and Magnate router bits