That's why I always use N.N. N.N. (others use different names i.e.
[.?.] ) for an unknown person so any Unknowns in the Marriage list (or
Name list) could be ghost spouses (or individuals) and should be
checked.
Evert
2010/6/8 Ron Ferguson ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk:
Brian,
No, I do not
Lloyd,
On the backup dialog screen, select options. You can then select what
you wish to do, append date, and append time. I have them both selected.
Tim
Tech Support
Legacy Family Tree
Hi Tim,
Yes I have selected Options and clicked both ot them. Before this update I
could click backup and
Make sure you haven't accidentally started an older version of Legacy.
Hello Dennis,
I am using version 7.4.0.45. Is that the latest version?
Lloyd
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Syble,
They are all there in the Names List under the Edit tab.
Whilst I tend to prefer to see technical things on paper rather than on
the screen, please don't forget that books and manuals become outdated,
whereas the Help Files are always u to date (and sometimes in advance
grin)
Ron
I have been working all morning trying to get Legacy to make a backup.
I tried backing up to Legacy Data folder with no luck. I tried backing
up to 128mb thumb-drive, still no luck.
I am wondering if I reinstall Legacy over the old data, if that would do it.
Help please!
Lloyd
Lloyd Hite wrote:
I have been working all morning trying to get Legacy to make a
backup.
I tried backing up to Legacy Data folder with no luck. I tried backing
up to 128mb thumb-drive, still no luck.
I am wondering if I reinstall Legacy over the old data, if that would
do it. Help please!
Sherri,
Hi. Just a friendly note to let you know that the use of HTML in
e-mails is not allowed by the Legacy User Group guidelines. While
your picture and background is pretty, many people who subscribe to
this list have set filters to automatically delete any e-mail which
comes in HTML
I would probably do that for an initial go. I would, uninstall Legacy first
though. If that doesn't work, you may need to consider deleting/renaming all
the .USR files, uninstalling and reinstalling.
Ron Ferguson
The problem with that Ron, is that I do not have a backup file to install
after
Ron Ferguson wrote
They are all there in the Names List under the Edit tab.
Only for the Individual highlighted, thought. For the list itself there
is only the option of RIN *or* UserID.
--
Jenny M Benson
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
On Tue, 08 Jun 2010 07:38:40 -0400, Lloyd Hite lhite3...@juno.com
wrote:
The problem with that Ron, is that I do not have a backup file to install
after reinstalling Legacy.
I have three backups from version 7.4.0.39, but the latest one is dated in
May. I have made a lot of changes
and added
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Tim
Tech Support
Legacy Family Tree
On 6/8/2010 2:23 AM, Lloyd Hite wrote:
By the way Tim, when will I be able to get my LUG Mail in my mail box. I am
having to go to the Archives
to read the LUG Mail.
Lloyd
Jenny M Benson wrote:
Ron Ferguson wrote
They are all there in the Names List under the Edit tab.
Only for the Individual highlighted, thought. For the list itself
there is only the option of RIN *or* UserID.
True, Jenny.
But, if I wnted continual access I would be using the Index View,
Lloyd,
You can only download and install the latest version, so you cannot go
back to .39. There is no place to download any of the back builds.
On the backup dialog, under the button/bar, it will tell you that
Currently: .. Take a look to see where it tells you the location you
want it to
Lloyd,
I just noticed your comment about not getting your emails. Are you still not
getting them? I noted the other day that Ken confirmed your subscription.
If they're not coming to your inbox, check the spam box on both the web and in
your email program to make sure they're not getting
Lloyd,
What happens when you try to make the backup?
Are you getting any error messages?
Which version of Windows are you using?
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com
We are changing the world of
The issue is if you click on Save, Legacy thinks you want to add a marriage.
When you exit a window without adding or editing any data, it's always wise to
click on Cancel
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com
Garry,
Some of the color options are based on Windows settings. Most of them are based
on Legacy settings. If you want to send a ticket to
supp...@legacyfamilytree.com, one of our support techs can work with you to
solve the problem you're having.
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer
Actually, un-wanted marriage records can be found for other situations besides
those mentioned for young children.
A marriage record is always required to connect a child with a parent. The
marriage list does show marriages where one or both spouses are unknown,
meaning the spouse does not
I concur with Brian's suggestion:
warn the user that no data exists but it will create
a marriage link -- Continue or Cancel.
Doing nothing shouldn't result in doing something.
Mike
On 6/8/2010 11:13 AM, Sherry/Support wrote:
The issue is if you click on Save, Legacy thinks you want to add
For some reason, Ron's message never came through to me. But to answer his
request that I make it a suggestion, I've already done so. When I accidentally
attempt to crop a picture in Photoshop without selecting an area, Photoshop is
smart enough to bring up a window that says No Pixels
And in a perfect world, it's always a good thing to choose your parents wisely.
:-)
Sorry Sherry, I couldn't resist that. Maybe that's the problem with these
ghost marriages. Accidents happen. SAVE gets clicked. But the user has no
idea what just happened. And the solution is not easily
You are right, Doing nothing shouldn't result in doing something - the
problem is if you click on Save, you have done something, you created a
record. If you click on Cancel then you have canceled the creation of a
record.
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 1:03 PM, Michael C. Morrison
Hi yall,
While in the Potential Problems Dialog, what is the difference between
'Create Problems List' and 'View Existing Problems List' ? They seem to
produce the same output for me, with the options to print, save, .
. What am I missing ?
Regards,
Tim Rosenlof
Legacy User Group
Maybe we're dealing with semantics here. A record to me would include
the addition of an input. If one doesn't add an input then there
shouldn't be a record.
If you click on a cell in Excel but don't add anything to the cell and
then click save one doesn't get a ghost record/observation. The
Tim,
Create builds the problem list and lets you view it.
View just re-opens the existing problem list and then lets you view it.
Ron Taylor
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
I am trying to convert my files from FTM to Legacy. I find it difficult to
edit the notes and to set up sources. (I have some 4000 names in my
files.) I would like some help. So, If there are seminars or classes that
teach HOW TO USE LEGACY, how do I find one in my area?
Bill McFall
Las
Anyone have a citation they can provide for information obtained from
Facebook? What Source Template do you use? What does your citation
look like?
Thanks,
Scott
Legacy User Group guidelines:
http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp
Archived messages after Nov. 21 2009:
After a bit more thought, I realized that using the pre-defined search
Individuals with an unknown spouse could then be viewed in the search results
name list under the right hand tab Family where those spouses who are unknown
without any children are easy to see.
Some said that the original
Scott Hall wrote:
Anyone have a citation they can provide for information obtained from
Facebook? What Source Template do you use? What does your citation
look like?
Thanks,
Scott
Scott,
InternetwebsiteGeneric
Ron Ferguson
_
*New*
Mike,
As I tried to explain, there is a difference in Legacy and that Legacy
*must* create a blank/unknown record for a spouse/partner if a child is
entered. You comparison with clicking a cell in Excel is, therefore, in my
opinion invalid.
Any change to prevent a record being created on
Ron:
Thanks. One problem I see with that is where do you reference the
specific page you were on? The generic internet template only
includes source information for the website as a whole. There isn't
really anyplace to properly source the page used. I've tried to use
the Database template,
That was my conclusion. I use the Name List a lot, and it is confusing with
so many duplicate names. I keep the Detail option open, which helps to see
the parents, spouse etc. It would be a great help to have an option to
have the RINs and the User ID's visible.
Thanks,
Syble
--- On Tue,
Scott,
There are fields there for Website Creator and Website Title. Have you
looked at the Source Detail? I haven't a clue as to what it *should* look
like and frankly I don't even know what that means! Nor do I know what is
meant by I can't seem to permanently clear the Format field, which is
Michael C. Morrison wrote
I concur with Brian's suggestion:
warn the user that no data exists but it will create a marriage link
-- Continue or Cancel.
Doing nothing shouldn't result in doing something.
But you're not doing nothing. You're clicking Save which is a positive
action. If you want
Tim Rosenlof wrote
While in the Potential Problems Dialog, what is the difference between
'Create Problems List' and 'View Existing Problems List' ? They seem to
produce the same output for me, with the options to print, save, .
. What am I missing ?
The former causes Legacy to go off and
Scott,
Ron's suggestion will provide you with exactly the citation format you are
seeking, however, you will need to have a separate master source for Barack
Obama's page, another for Sarah Palin's page, etc.
That doesn't bother me one bit (well, writing those two names in the same
sentence
Ron,
Scott means that Evidence Explained suggests the citation style he posted would
be the correct format, and that if he uses the database template, he can't
erase the word database from the citation output.
Or so I interpret.
Connie
--- On Tue, 6/8/10, Ron Ferguson
Emphasis:
It would be a great help to have an option to have the RINs and the
User ID's visible.
Well, we have that now. In the Name List, on the left side are some
numbers. They are the RINs. You can change that to the User ID by
clicking on Options Show User ID in List. there isn't a way to
Connie Sheets wrote
That doesn't bother me one bit (well, writing those two names in the
same sentence does, but I digress), and is the method I use for
websites like Ancestry.com or FamilySearchLabs (to which I consider
Facebook analogous in that they are humongous sites with vast amounts
of data
Because Legacy creates for the screen only, a person 'named Unknown', you can
find them all quickly. Go to Marr List, choose either the column for husband or
wife, hit the button 'first', and all the empty people show up alphabetically
in front of the letter 'A', which helps you find those that
On the main Legacy webpage, under User Groups, all the current groups and the
address they meet at are listed. If you want to start one, telling support will
get you listed. (I'm in Burbank, CA) If you want help starting one, talk to me
off list or the staff about what to do.
Rich in LA CA
---
In using SourceWriter and sourcing a web site, I am asked to put in the
main URL. If my entire URL is _http://www.seacoastnh.com/women/thaxter.html_
(http://www.seacoastnh.com/women/thaxter.html) , is that what I put in or
do I write in only to the first / or something else? I know that I
Not the Home *button*. Click on the Legacy Home *TAB* - it's on the far left
of the row of tabs.
On the Legacy Home *tab*, you'll see an Updates section, where you click on the
link to update Legacy.
Thanks for using Legacy.
Sherry
Customer Support
Millennia Corporation
Taking Jenny's reasoning below a step further - I think I would source
information from Facebook as personal knowledge of the person who
posted it to their FB page and then note in the citation details that
it was posted on their FB page. (Assuming here that it's information
about that person or
Thank you.
Dennis
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 5:47 PM, Sherry/Support
she...@legacyfamilytree.com wrote:
Not the Home *button*. Click on the Legacy Home *TAB* - it's on the far left
of the row of tabs.
On the Legacy Home *tab*, you'll see an Updates section, where you click on
the link to
Linda,
You are, of course, welcome to cite Facebook any way you want, but for those of
us who prefer to follow current standards (which Mrs. Mills did not make up on
her own by the way; her books are based upon the Chicago Manual of Style and
earlier genealogical writers), the correct citation
On 2010/06/08 22:39, Jenny M Benson wrote:
Tim Rosenlof wrote
While in the Potential Problems Dialog, what is the difference between
'Create Problems List' and 'View Existing Problems List' ? They seem to
produce the same output for me, with the options to print, save, .
. What am I
You missed the part of the thread wherein it was mentioned accidentally or
un-intentionally.
And as I've added, perhaps 6 months later the user prints out a report that
says this 4 year old child married somebody. The user goes Huh?, looks at
the Family View for the young child and see no
wrote
In using SourceWriter and sourcing a web site, I am asked to put in
the main URL. If my entire URL is
http://www.seacoastnh.com/women/thaxter.html , is that what I put in or
do I write in only to the first / or something else? I know that I can
put in whatever I want but be
Connie,
I do not recognise the word correct in this context. There is no standard
wording in the UK for sourcing, simply it must be clear, accurate, concise
and reproducable by others. Which is why, although a very strong advocate of
sourcing, I do not get involved in the details of sourcing on
Brian L. Lightfoot wrote
You missed the part of the thread wherein it was mentioned accidentally
or un-intentionally.
I didn't. I just don't think Legacy should be accountable for every
accidental or unintentional act of the User. It's easy enough to see
that a person has a marriage - symbol
Howland,
You give too little information to be certain. The main URL is that of the
Home Page (often ~/index.html). It is the main URL because it should always
have the same name. Take my site http://www.fergys.co.uk/index.php is my
Home page but I would express it as http://www.fergys.co.uk/
Jenny M Benson wrote:
wrote
In using SourceWriter and sourcing a web site, I am asked to put in
the main URL. If my entire URL is
http://www.seacoastnh.com/women/thaxter.html , is that what I put in
or do I write in only to the first / or something else? I know that
I can put in whatever I
Linda,
I'm not sure Facebook existed when Evidence Explained was written.
Facebook is a website, is it not? EE contains multiple examples of how to cite
websites. They all generally follow the same pattern.
Perhaps the closest example to Facebook would be her discussion of blogs on pp.
On Wed, 9 Jun 2010 00:35:59 +0100, Ron Ferguson
ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
I would express it as http://www.fergys.co.uk/ when using it
as the URL for the main page, because a browser will always look for
index. Not including index.html means that you can change the extension
of the Home
Is there a digest mode for LUG? I am getting so many emails several times a
day, it would be great if they would come in a digest. If there is one, how do
I switch?
After reading all these messages, questions and answers, I'm finding out that I
am a babe in the woods with Legacy. I'm not
Ron,
I have no problem whatsoever with your approach; nothing I ever post should be
interpreted as a criticism of you or your approach. It's just not for me in
all circumstances. One of the things I love about Legacy is its versatility
and ability to meet the desires and needs of both
Citing the long URL also doesn't help if it is a dynamic url which some
database websites use. Next time you do the same search, it will be a
different URL.
Cheers,
Jackie
Ron Ferguson wrote:
Howland,
You give too little information to be certain. The main URL is that of the
Home Page
I agree that Legacy is not accountable; I'm just trying to make it appear so
that some users don't get the wrong impression when their reports start
spitting out strange information (all due to the user's carelessness).
Regardless, Legacy will surely get the blame from them. How does that
Connie,
I never took what you said as a criticism, and even if I had, I can take it
(I was in public life for a few years!). Neither have I any problem with
people discussing, or promoting the use of, Mrs Mills and her sourcing
systems.
In my previous post I said:
There is no standard wording
Hello
As I've been off-line for a while I'm discovering new things!
Selecting a person on 'Family' tab, - 'Research Guidance' , -
'Suggested Sources' opens the 'Research Guidance' window. Top left of
this window has the selected persons name and some data, for example:
Mary Ryan (194)
b. 1814,
Tom Element wrote:
Hello
As I've been off-line for a while I'm discovering new things!
Selecting a person on 'Family' tab, - 'Research Guidance' , -
'Suggested Sources' opens the 'Research Guidance' window. Top left of
this window has the selected persons name and some data, for example:
Dennis Kowallek today added some SQL scripts to LTools that can identify and
tag the phantom marriages. I used them successfully to find an correct about
225 of these erroneous marriage records. I know for certain that most of them
were not created by a mistaken save of a marriage record but
I can understand how it would calculate possible dates - but locations??
Cheers
Jan
-Original Message-
From: Ron Ferguson [mailto:ronfergy@tiscali.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, 9 June 2010 12:12
To: LegacyUserGroup@LegacyUsers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Research Guidance
Tom Element
Thanks, Ron and Jan, for the replies. The brackets probably mean
unchecked or unverified data I suppose; that's what I used in my own
database. Yet one of the persons I looked at had an exact date of
death, day, month year which was the same day as the birth data. That
cannot be just an
Just been looking for more possible answers. In Help -Search - typed
in 'Brackets' one item on the list displayed was 'non-qualifying
Comments'. It appears the LDS uses these brackets to indicate what is
'possible' or 'usual' or what can reasonably be expected.
I have to presume that's what's
Another possibility is that the LDS uses to mean 'about' (dates) 'near'
(places), but how the computer created those 'facts' would require more
information but I am not asking. I would mark them unsubstantiated. A different
relative may be in a DB and that one says the above stuff. Or maybe
They got rid of it in the 1990s, because all those answers to the same question
carried 20-30 pages of answers most duplicated multiple times. If I remember,
on one day it was over 800 pages, and I was on slow dialup. I had to got to the
local library to read them because my PC could handle the
Rich,
It wasn’t that long ago and it had nothing to do with the replies. We switched
servers and list software sometime last year, if I remember correctly, and the
new software didn’t have a digest feature available.
Bev and Rich - just a reminder to send messages in plain text.
Thanks for
Nice but there is no mention of classes or seminars. Are there ever
seminars or classes offered (in or near the Las Vegas area) on the use of
Legacy.
Bill
On Tue, Jun 8, 2010 at 12:03 PM, Tim Rosenlof spa...@xmission.com wrote:
Bill,
From the Legacy web page, use the pull down menu from the
Bill,
I've lived in Las Vegas for years and have been a Legacy user since version 4.
I don't claim to be an expert, but I would be happy to get together off list to
see if I can help.
Maureen Lake
Las Vegas, Nevada
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 8, 2010, at 9:33 PM, Bill McFall
Thanks for the offer Maureen. I'm ke6wxb...@gmail.com I am such a novice
with Legacy I wonder if I made a good decision (to convert my files from FTM
to Legacy.) I am really looking for a class that teaches how to use the
sources when they are already entered, as notes, in some made up format.
Hello Bill,
If I remember right if you have bought the Legacy program on CD you might
also have the basic learning tutorial as well.
There are also Legacy CD's that teach you how to use Legacy. They are very
helpful. Check out the website for more detailed information. And there
could be a Legacy
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