Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch 
Thank you Cathy. The information was very much appreciated.

 

Denise

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 5:43 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

 

Here's some of the information that has been posted to Facebook on the mapping 
problem from John Lisle who heads the Beta Testing program.

John B. Lisle As the Legacy Test lead, let me make a statement (again) on the 
Maps issue as I am not on the cruise...  - 

Bing introduced a radically different approach (Version 7) to how an 
application like Legacy would embed a map a bit over a year ago; however, they 
retained the "classic" interface that Legacy was using. Last Spring, they 
introduced the next version (Version 8) of the new set of APIs and announced 
that Version 7 would be deactivated in July. They did not announce that the 
classic APIs would also be deactivated. 

The technology to implement these APIs is quite advanced Javascripting and 
unlike anything else in Legacy. (Feel free to Google Bing Maps...) As a 
participant in the original implementation of Mapping about 8-10 years ago, I 
know that took the developers almost a month to get a version that could even 
be shown to the Beta Testers. And then we spent some time ironing out issues 
and trying to improve the user interface. Based on my analysis (as a part-time 
Javascripter...), the new implementation is going to take just as long both to 
implement and test. Remember, last time it was done under the cover of creating 
a new version of Legacy, not out front as a bug fix while other day to day 
issues need also to be worked on.

The last report I had from the developer was that he has gotten a map to 
display but still has to get pin setting and a dozen other features working. 

And, there is still a big issue hoving over the final solution. One of the 
reasons we (and many other applications) retained the classic interface was 
because the licensing agreement with Microsoft allowed unlimited maps. The new 
API set has a limit to the number of free maps per mo nth that the Legacy user 
base will exceed in hours. 

It may become an issue that each user will need to acquire their own "Map Key" 
so the limit is on each user rather than all users.This is what most TNG users 
have to do to use the Google Maps in that application. Or maybe Legacy can 
negotiate a deal with Bing for its user base. 

Please understand that this is a very convoluted issue. As a person who used to 
use Maps every day, I feel I am in withdrawal in my personal research. Legacy 
developers are not ignoring the user base. This is just a very tough problem, 
and they are taking this very seriously.

John Lisle 
Legacy Test Lead

Cathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread Cathy Pinner 
Here's some of the information that has been posted to Facebook on the 
mapping problem from John Lisle who heads the Beta Testing program.


John B. Lisle As the Legacy Test lead, let me make a statement (again) 
on the Maps issue as I am not on the cruise... -


Bing introduced a radically different approach (Version 7) to how an 
application like Legacy would embed a map a bit over a year ago; 
however, they retained the "classic" interface that Legacy was using. 
Last Spring, they introduced the next version (Version 8) of the new set 
of APIs and announced that Version 7 would be deactivated in July. They 
did not announce that the classic APIs would also be deactivated.


The technology to implement these APIs is quite advanced Javascripting 
and unlike anything else in Legacy. (Feel free to Google Bing Maps...) 
As a participant in the original implementation of Mapping about 8-10 
years ago, I know that took the developers almost a month to get a 
version that could even be shown to the Beta Testers. And then we spent 
some time ironing out issues and trying to improve the user interface. 
Based on my analysis (as a part-time Javascripter...), the new 
implementation is going to take just as long both to implement and test. 
Remember, last time it was done under the cover of creating a new 
version of Legacy, not out front as a bug fix while other day to day 
issues need also to be worked on.


The last report I had from the developer was that he has gotten a map to 
display but still has to get pin setting and a dozen other features 
working.


And, there is still a big issue hoving over the final solution. One of 
the reasons we (and many other applications) retained the classic 
interface was because the licensing agreement with Microsoft allowed 
unlimited maps. The new API set has a limit to the number of free maps 
per month that the Legacy user base will exceed in hours.


It may become an issue that each user will need to acquire their own 
"Map Key" so the limit is on each user rather than all users.This is 
what most TNG users have to do to use the Google Maps in that 
application. Or maybe Legacy can negotiate a deal with Bing for its user 
base.


Please understand that this is a very convoluted issue. As a person who 
used to use Maps every day, I feel I am in withdrawal in my personal 
research. Legacy developers are not ignoring the user base. This is just 
a very tough problem, and they are taking this very seriously.


John Lisle
Legacy Test Lead

Cathy

Carrie Pillow wrote:


Hi

This has been asked and answered many times on here and facebook,

please don’t let this be a long winded debate again. 

The programmers have already said this is not going to be a quick fix,
it not the only priority.

Legacy is a program far beyond any other. Please be patient there are
always other jobs that need doing in genealogy.

Please can we move on

Carrie

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *CE WOOD
*Sent:* 21 November 2017 23:32
*To:* Legacy User Group 
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

Seems that Legacy may have caused the problem...

Cheers, Carolyn



*From:*LegacyUserGroup > on behalf of Denise
Moss-Fritch >
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:07 PM
*To:* 'Legacy User Group'
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

Cathy,

Have to admit that your comment about maps -- “Bing turning off the
way they were being accessed” -- has me curious From whom did you
receive this information?

I am only asking as while I know of two genealogy software (Legacy is
one) where maps stopped functioning three months ago, I do know of
three other genealogy software that use Bing maps without problem and
have had no interruptions during the same period.

Thanks,

Denise

*From:*LegacyUserGroup
[mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Cathy
Pinner
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:56 PM
*To:* Legacy User Group >
*Subject:* Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

Maps are broken in all versions of Legacy currently due to Bing
turning off the way they were being accessed.
They will be fixed in Legacy 9 in a future update.

Cathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread Carrie Pillow 
Hi

This has been asked and answered many times on here and facebook,

please don't let this  be a long winded debate again. 

The programmers have already said this is not going to be a quick fix, it not 
the only priority.

Legacy is a program far beyond any other. Please be patient there are always 
other jobs that need doing in genealogy.

Please can we move on

Carrie


From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of CE WOOD
Sent: 21 November 2017 23:32
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error


Seems that Legacy may have caused the problem...




Cheers, Carolyn


From: LegacyUserGroup 
>
 on behalf of Denise Moss-Fritch 
>
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:07 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error


Cathy,



Have to admit that your comment about maps -- "Bing turning off the way they 
were being accessed" -- has me curious  From whom did you receive this 
information?



I am only asking as while I know of two genealogy software (Legacy is one) 
where maps stopped functioning three months ago, I do know of three other 
genealogy software that use Bing maps without problem and have had no 
interruptions during the same period.



Thanks,



Denise



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
>
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error



Maps are broken in all versions of Legacy currently due to Bing turning off the 
way they were being accessed.
They will be fixed in Legacy 9 in a future update.

Cathy
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread CE WOOD 
Seems that Legacy may have caused the problem...



Cheers, Carolyn



From: LegacyUserGroup  on behalf of 
Denise Moss-Fritch 
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 3:07 PM
To: 'Legacy User Group'
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error


Cathy,



Have to admit that your comment about maps -- “Bing turning off the way they 
were being accessed” -- has me curious  From whom did you receive this 
information?



I am only asking as while I know of two genealogy software (Legacy is one) 
where maps stopped functioning three months ago, I do know of three other 
genealogy software that use Bing maps without problem and have had no 
interruptions during the same period.



Thanks,



Denise



From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error



Maps are broken in all versions of Legacy currently due to Bing turning off the 
way they were being accessed.
They will be fixed in Legacy 9 in a future update.

Cathy

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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread DimJim 
Thanks Cathy.
I've had V8 for a couple years or so but was trying to clean up some of the
files in V7.5 before I started using it.  Maybe someday I'll catch up with
the rest of the world.

On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 3:56 PM, Cathy Pinner  wrote:

> Maps are broken in all versions of Legacy currently due to Bing turning
> off the way they were being accessed.
> They will be fixed in Legacy 9 in a future update.
>
> Cathy
>
>
> DimJim wrote:
>
>
> I'm still using Legacy 7.5 and am having a problem viewing maps in the
> Master Locations List.  When selecting a location I get an error message
>
> An error has occurred in the script on this page
> Line: 29
> Char:10
> Error:'VELatLong' is undefined
> Code: 0
> URL:file://C:/Legacy/Temp/LG~23|234-a-uou124ouo814asuz-
> saxife09230120.TMP
>
>
> Can anybody advise how to fix this?
> thanks, Jim
>
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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread Denise Moss-Fritch 
Cathy,

 

Have to admit that your comment about maps -- “Bing turning off the way they 
were being accessed” -- has me curious  From whom did you receive this 
information?

 

I am only asking as while I know of two genealogy software (Legacy is one) 
where maps stopped functioning three months ago, I do know of three other 
genealogy software that use Bing maps without problem and have had no 
interruptions during the same period.

 

Thanks,

 

Denise

 

From: LegacyUserGroup [mailto:legacyusergroup-boun...@legacyusers.com] On 
Behalf Of Cathy Pinner
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 2:56 PM
To: Legacy User Group 
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

 

Maps are broken in all versions of Legacy currently due to Bing turning off the 
way they were being accessed.
They will be fixed in Legacy 9 in a future update.

Cathy



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Re: [LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread Cathy Pinner 
Maps are broken in all versions of Legacy currently due to Bing turning 
off the way they were being accessed.

They will be fixed in Legacy 9 in a future update.

Cathy

DimJim wrote:


I'm still using Legacy 7.5 and am having a problem viewing maps in the
Master Locations List. When selecting a location I get an error message

An error has occurred in the script on this page
Line: 29
Char:10
Error:'VELatLong' is undefined
Code: 0
URL:file://C:/Legacy/Temp/LG~23|234-a-uou124ouo814asuz-saxife09230120.TMP


Can anybody advise how to fix this?
thanks, Jim
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[LegacyUG] Master Locations List - Script error

2017-11-21 Thread DimJim 
I'm still using Legacy 7.5 and am having a problem viewing maps in the
Master Locations List.  When selecting a location I get an error message

An error has occurred in the script on this page
Line: 29
Char: 10
Error: 'VELatLong' is undefined
Code: 0
URL: file://C:/Legacy/Temp/LG~23|234-a-uou124ouo814asuz-saxife09230120.TMP


Can anybody advise how to fix this?
thanks, Jim
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