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>> Jane in Phoenix
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>> *From:* LegacyUserGroup *On
>> Behalf Of *Linda Greethurst
>> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 6
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> And those manifests were used to fill out Passenger Arrival Lists (what I
> and others refer to as ledgers). This comes directly from the Ellis Island
> website.
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> I'm not sure why p
>>Ward
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>> *From:* Christopher Seward Sr.
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>> And those manifests were used to fill ou
ip manifest. And additional googling for
> ‘passenger arrival lists’ also turns up only ship manifests.
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>Ward
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> *From:* Christopher Seward Sr.
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> *To:* mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
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From: Christopher Seward Sr.
Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 3:33 PM
To: mvmcgrs--- via LegacyUserGroup
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated
And those manifests were used to fill out Passenger Arrival Lists (what I and
others refer to as ledgers). This comes directly from
ed til the mid 1800’s.
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> Til I heard that, I used to be s proud of my spelling….
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> Jane in Phoenix
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> *From:* LegacyUserGroup *On
> Behalf Of *Linda Greethurst
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 24, 2019 6:21 AM
> *To:* Legacy User Grou
: Sunday, November 24, 2019 6:21 AM
To: Legacy User Group
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated ;-)
When I started my genealogical research many years ago, I was told to ignore
spelling (one s or double s; D or T; -son or -sen; kn or just n; etc). Say the
name out loud
And those manifests were used to fill out Passenger Arrival Lists (what
I and others refer to as ledgers). This comes directly from the Ellis
Island website.
I'm not sure why people are so passionate about stating that these
errors never happened, when indeed they did, even according to
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 8:49 PM
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> Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated
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> The first one you listed is the one that mentions that the Inspectors
> would make changes of what they perceived to be errors. You'v
by the teachers,
and that stuck, but their father stubbornly refused to change his own name.
Ward
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From: Christopher Seward Sr.
Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2019 8:49 PM
To: legacyusergroup@legacyusers.com
Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Surname Changed When Immigrated
Fine and dandy to say it out loud. Try saying Snoddy and see it written
down as Snotty, which is why I always spell it S as in Sam, N as in Norman,
O as in Oscar, D as in David, D as in David and Y which needs no
comparison. Spell it S N O double D Y and see it written as Snowdy.
On Sun, Nov
Excellent advice, Linda!
On 11/24/2019 7:21 AM, Linda Greethurst wrote:
When I started my genealogical research many years ago, I was told to
ignore spelling (one s or double s; D or T; -son or -sen; kn or just
n; etc). Say the name out loud - if it sounds familiar, consider it
and research
When I started my genealogical research many years ago, I was told to
ignore spelling (one s or double s; D or T; -son or -sen; kn or just n;
etc). Say the name out loud - if it sounds familiar, consider it and
research it. Best lesson I learned.
The reason was that the average person before
152 WAYS TO SPELL SULLIVAN
Interesting range of experiences reported on this topic, and good advice to
use Legacy's AKA option; and I'll add this to the pot. Several years ago my
friend Hugh Sullivan made a list of "152 ways to spell Sullivan." all taken
from actual records. I posted it on the
Also, my grandfather and his brothers told me that when they arrived at Ellis
Island, they told the inspectors to "spell our name American" so it was changed
from Jochman to Yohman (pronounced the same).
Dan Yohman
On Saturday, November 23, 2019, 08:50:46 PM EST, Christopher Seward Sr.
The first one you listed is the one that mentions that the Inspectors
would make changes of what they perceived to be errors. You've made my
point.
The others you listed are articles by people who have made the same
assumptions you made. I have interviewed people who came through Ellis
The find I made was in Ancestry. The Drouin Collection had my father's
surname down as Schuster although it was correctly spelled in the register
of the Catholic parish where my parents, Louisa Snoddy and Robert Schwalm,
were married.
Another hilarious one was in the 1911 Canadian Census. The
And it happened elsewhere. I found a family in Cornwall, UK with 14
different spellings spread across Census and BMD records - damn difficult
tracking them down.
Regards
Chris
>From my Motorola G6+
On Sat, 23 Nov 2019, 23:05 Roberta Schwalm,
wrote:
> I've seen a few dillies myself. My
I've seen a few dillies myself. My father's surname was Schwalm but I have
seen it written as Schwaten! His mother's maiden name was Jung but on her
record of marriage it is entered as Yung because of the way the German "J"
is pronounced.
As for my mother's Snoddy side of the family, although
Thank you all for the input. I now know how to properly enter both
surnames.
Thank you, Laura, for sending the links. I will check them out.
Cathy Vallevieni
714 389-6374 Home
714 227-4948 Cell
On 11/23/2019 1:16 PM, Laura Johnson wrote:
the so called ledgers were the ships manifests -
You're entitled. I will say that I have interviewed people who will
attest to my statements. Also, an investigative article by the
Smithsonian found that inspectors would sometimes correct what they felt
to be spelling errors on the ships' manifests. If they admitted that
they did it, I
the so called ledgers were the ships manifests - those were done at the
port of departure.
Here are a few good articles to let you know what really happened
Sorry, but I disagree with that statement. The people at Ellis Island only
checked off the names. The names were entered at the departure. The time that
Ellis Island staff entered the names where as detained aliens. The manifest's
were made up at the place of departure so if the name was
Marie,
I would disagree with that first statement. In my years of doing
research, I have heard stories where the workers at Ellis Island entered
names into the ledgers incorrectly. If they were unable to discern the
name from the ships manifest, they would of write down the names as THEY
First, the name was not changed at Ellis Island. The manifests were made in the
country that they departed from. They probably made the change themselves to
make the name easier to pronounce and spell. They may have done it legally,
[through the courts] but more likely they just started to
First - names were NOT changed at Ellis Island. The names on the
manifests were from the port of departure. So if it was written as
VAllevieni on the manifest, it is because it was written that way on the
manifest.
Second, I always record the birth/baptismal name as the correct names.
All
My great grandfather had the surname Vallevegni in Italy.
When the family immigrated to the U.S. it changed to Vallevieni which
they used from then on (probably changed at Ellis Island).
How should I enter 2 surnames in Legayc?
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Cathy Vallevieni
714 389-6374 Home
714 227-4948 Cell
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