RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-04-02 Thread Ron Bernier
With all due respect, this horse has been beaten to death, buried, and totally decomposed. Can we please move on. I for one would really appreciate it if you and Jay could continue this discussion off list. The two of you are just arguing (discussing) the same point over and over again. If

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-04-02 Thread John Lisle
Ron, I believe (hope) that Jay and I are done with this public discussion. A suggestion has been submitted over a week ago. john. At 04:24 AM 4/2/2015, Ron Bernier wrote: With all due respect, this horse has been beaten to death, buried, and totally decomposed. Can we please move on. I for

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-04-02 Thread BARTON LEWIS
Ron, whether an issue has been beaten to death depends on the individual.  As long as viewpoints are being exchanged on an issue that is list-appropriate, someone may be lurking in the wings who is benefitting from the discussion.  Only the moderator can shut down a discussion, and usually only

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-04-01 Thread Jay Wilpolt
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:54 PM, John Lisle leg...@johnlisle.com wrote: The issue with Child Status is that Legacy has chosen to export the data as an attribute of Family instead of Person as is done by all other vendors who export this type of data. Probably because Child status is not a

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-04-01 Thread John Lisle
Jay, Please think again about what the attributes are in a default Child Status list: Twin and Stillborn. These are attributes that are true of an individual no matter what family they are part of. Even Adopted which has been in earlier lists is an attribute of a person. A person is either

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-04-01 Thread John Lisle
Jay, I can understand your point, but respectfully disagree. I agree that all vendors have different data models, but when a vendor adds functionality to their product that extends the basic Gedcom data model, it is, in my opinion, in their best interest (and that of their customers) to see how

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-31 Thread John Lisle
David, Your point is well taken, but... 1/ Gedcom was last updated in the late 1990s. In my opinion, it will never be updated significantly again because (a) too many applications depend on the current implementation and from a development viewpoint are static. For instance, RootsWeb's

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-31 Thread David Abernathy
One needs to remember that GEDCOM is a very old standard and has not been up dated since the early 1990’s. It was never designed to do a lot of things it is being forced to do today. It was designed to convert ALL of the data in one product so it could be used in an another product. Now we

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-31 Thread Ward Walker
(Aside: It was not my intention to trigger a rant about bugs and versions. For the record, I think Legacy is a quality product and that the number of open defects for this type of software is not unreasonable. The product is functional and flexible. It is stable – rarely crashing and with

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-31 Thread Jay Wilpolt
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:00 AM, John Lisle leg...@johnlisle.com wrote: What is a problem with Legacy is when Legacy does not export any of its data OR it exports the data in a fashion that cannot be accepted by the receiving software. John , In regards to *What is a problem with

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-31 Thread Jay Wilpolt
Ward, I agree with you completely. I would add one thing however, that the Legacy Shared events could possibly be handled better, so as to not cause the potential problems as it could in its current form. Personally, I would prefer to have a switch to not use shared events and for the database

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-30 Thread CE WOOD
Agreed! They even asked me what bugs I have encountered. It is unbelievable how many there are, and that they need me to let them know what they are! Every time they fix one, it seems they create another. We don't know what will get fixed and what will then not work as a result. So sad. CE

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-30 Thread Jennifer Crockett
Sorry, I am still on V7.5 This is just another reason I won’t upgrade to V8. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com From: CE WOOD [mailto:wood...@msn.com] Sent: Tuesday, 31 March 2015 11:28 AM To: legacyusergroup@LegacyUsers.com Subject: RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS:

Re: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-30 Thread Cathy Pinner
Yes the Privacy brackets stop the Master Source Comments appearing in the Gedcom UNLESS you override the Privacy settings. You can continue negative towards Legacy 8 but if you're not encountering the bugs in Legacy 7.5 you probably won't encounter them in Legacy 8. The reality that fixing some

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-30 Thread Jennifer Crockett
I always put privacy brackets [[ at the beginning of any text in the Master Source text or comments field. I sometimes use the whole of an email in text form for a source and don't want the senders details or the whole of the text to appear anywhere. Regards, Jennifer http://colston-wenck.com

RE: [LegacyUG] Source Comments in GEDCOM [WAS: Details text showing up in Footnote citation]

2015-03-30 Thread CE WOOD
So, do privacy brackets prevent the comments or text from appearing in the GEDCOM? That seems to be the problem; the privacy brackets don't work. The bug is that the parameters one sets are not recognized by the Legacy program when it creates the GEDCOM. CE From: jcrock...@optusnet.com.au