Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-08 Thread Quintin Driver
Richard, have you or any of the LWG members done any work for MapQuest, Skobbler and / or Cloudmade ? -- I'm led to believe that people have been issuing LWG with private lists of demands that they want met before they will consent to ODbL+CT. Could I ask that said people have the courtesy to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-08 Thread Jim Brown
Let's be clear that Cloudmade have not been in any private discussions, nor made any demands of OSMF or the lwg. We support odbl and I think most (if not all) of us have accepted the new cts. I'd be curious where this came from. Jim Brown -CTO CloudMade (Sent from my iPhone) +44 7595 367 664

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Quintin Driver wrote: Richard, have you or any of the LWG members done any work for MapQuest, Skobbler and / or Cloudmade ? Wow. I'm not an LWG member and I've never done any work for MapQuest, Skobbler and/or CloudMade. Where on earth did that come from and what on earth has it got to do

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-08 Thread Grant Slater
On 8 June 2011 10:49, Quintin Driver quentindrive...@gmail.com wrote: Richard, have you or any of the LWG members done any work for MapQuest, Skobbler and / or Cloudmade ? Richard Fairhurst is not a member of the LWG or the OSMF Board. He was a member of 2007 OSMF Board. Skobbler, Cloudmade

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-08 Thread Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-06-08 03:25, David Groom wrote: Why do you and some others think that the majority of the contributors are dumb sheeps who will sign everything? 1) Because I've seen postings to various OSM emailing lists along the lines of: (i) I trust OSM to get it right and so I just agreed to the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-08 Thread Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer
Hi Grant, thanks for assuring me that the sysadmins have no interest in participating in behaviour that is harmful to the community. Does this mean that I will not be chucked out of the community by the sysadmins? I am willing to grant the OSFM + 2/3 of the community the right to relicense

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-08 Thread Rob Myers
On 08/06/11 17:59, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer wrote: the claim that everyone who likes the Share-Alike-principle is a fanatic. I'm certainly a copyleft fanatic, but I'm sure there are some entirely reasonable copyleft proponents as well. - Rob. ___

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, Grant Slater wrote: On 8 June 2011 17:59, Olaf Schmidt-Wischhöfer o...@amen-online.de wrote: If I am correctly informed, then there are no plans to change the problematic language in the CT, and the sysadmins have no plans to allow me to keep contributing. Or am I missing something?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] CTs are not full copyright assignment

2011-06-08 Thread Frederik Ramm
Dermot, Dermot McNally wrote: I am willing to grant the OSFM + 2/3 of the community the right to relicense my contributions in the following ways: * the current versions of the ODbL and/or of the CC-BY-SA, * all past and future versions of the ODbL and/or of the CC-BY-SA, * all licenses that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Private negotiations

2011-06-08 Thread TimSC
Quoting Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net: I'm led to believe that people have been issuing LWG with private lists of demands that they want met before they will consent to ODbL+CT. Yes, I attended to previous LWG teleconference and I asked for LWG, as a committee, to enter into direct