Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Simon Poole
In general the CC-by licences require downstream attribution that we can't provide for any sensible meaning of the word, so you will need specific permission in any case, the other part is that the 4.0 licences try to cater for sui generis databases and, IMHO-only, that comes out rather wrong.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Simon Poole
Ivan The problem is that it is a legal can of worms. I would suggest simply asking for explicit permission, or at least formal confirmation that tracing from the imagery does not create a derivative work and that the government has no rights in such vectorized data. It is, as you may have seen

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Ivan Garcia
Hi Simon. Thanks for the answer. Just an extra quesiton, doesn't a CC-BY license already allows derivative work of any kind as long as the author is mentioned? Why would an extra permission for that be required? Best Regards. Ivan. On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Ivan Garcia
Thanks a lot for the answer Simon, really complete. Ivan. On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 6:31 PM, Simon Poole si...@poole.ch wrote: In general the CC-by licences require downstream attribution that we can't provide for any sensible meaning of the word, so you will need specific permission in any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/13/2015 3:09 AM, Simon Poole wrote: It is, as you may have seen from previous discussions, not clear if the CC 4.0 licences are compatible (with the exception of CC0 naturally) with the ODbL and this is likely not an issue that will be resolved short term. To clarify a bit, any CC

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using a WMS imagery with CC-BY4.0

2015-07-13 Thread Kate Chapman
Hi Ivan, I would suggest getting in touch with Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Indonesia. They could probably help in facilitate of permission. team...@hotosm.org is the best way to reach them. Best, -Kate On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 7:34 AM, Ivan Garcia capisc...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot