Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Kathleen Lu via legal-talk
No, ODbL does not apply to any database that does not include OSM data. There are two reasons. First, this example is analogous to the FAQ here:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Nuno Caldeira
does contain derivate however,which means license applies On Thu, 12 Dec 2019, 19:46 , wrote: > > we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data than > is lock under their TOS. > > I want to apologize for my misunderstanding: my final product does not > contain any

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread matthias . straetling
Let me get into detail is this project to proof that this case isn't constructed.   We've purchased geodata with real estate prices (houses & flats) for Germany's federal state "Northrhine Westfalia". Each row has coordinates in WGS84. The TOS of the purchhased dataset state, that it's not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread matthias . straetling
> we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data than is > lock under their TOS.   I want to apologize for my misunderstanding: my final product does not contain any OpenStreetMap data. ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Simon Poole
Yes, if a Derivative Database was created in the first place, and that is not clear at all, see: /“Derivative Database” – Means a database based upon the Database, and// //includes any translation, adaptation, arrangement, modification, or any// //other alteration of the Database or of a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 12. Dez. 2019 um 19:53 Uhr schrieb < matthias.straetl...@buerotiger.de>: > But I neither want to merge OSM data or add it to my data. I just want to > use it to > select points of my dataset. then it may eventually fall under the geocoding guideline:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Nuno Caldeira
https://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1.0/index.html the license is quite clear and 4.2 applies to the case you mention. any use of OSM data (over 100 nodes) combined with proprietary data results in more open data under ODbL. we are here to create more open data, not to feed proprietary data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread matthias . straetling
> From a practical point of view, boundaries in OSM rarely originate from > surveys, > you might be lucky to be able to identify the original source (most likely > open data) > which may have a more liberal license than ODbL (check the history and > changeset > source tags / object source

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread matthias . straetling
Hi, > when you write „number of boundaries“, you intend „boundary points“? No, for example postcodes. I want to merge some of them to new polygons. Regards, Matthias ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread matthias . straetling
Hi, > In my NAL opinion, the result will be derived from OSM data and > therefore inherits the ODbL license. This does, however, not mean that > you have to publish it; but *if* you publish (or "publilcy use") it, > then it has to be available under ODbL. If you just use it internally > then it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Do., 12. Dez. 2019 um 08:01 Uhr schrieb < matthias.straetl...@buerotiger.de>: > I want to use polygons (district boundaries) from OSM dataset to select > points for a proprietary dataset. >From a practical point of view, boundaries in OSM rarely originate from surveys, you might be lucky to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] use OSM data to select proprietary data

2019-12-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. Dec 2019, at 08:19, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > As an exception to the above, if the number of boundaries you use is > less than 100 - an crucially this could be after the trivial alterations > you mention - then the extract you are making is considered not to be >