Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database Law / extracting non-significant amounts of data, and ODL

2008-02-22 Thread Jordan S Hatcher
> > On 22 Feb 2008, at 14:14, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> Hi, >> >> the current state of discussion/analysis is that a license like >> ODL would offer sound legal protection only where database law >> exists (e.g. in Europe), while for other jurisdictions (e.g. the US) >> we'd have to rely on the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database Law / extracting non-significant amounts of data, and ODL

2008-02-22 Thread Lauri Hahne
On 22/02/2008, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I'm interested in now is the extraction of a "not significant" > amount of data. I understand that "significant" is not really > defined but let's assume I would extract the map data for a little > village, say 2000 nodes and 200 w

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database Law / extracting non-significant amounts of data, and ODL

2008-02-22 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote: > So as long as I extract non-significant amounts, the data would > essentially be PD? You could use it as such, yes. ODC-Database expressly says that it considers a "Derivative Database" to comprise a "_Substantial_ part of the Data" (my emphasis). That's whether it's a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database Law / extracting non-significant amounts of data, and ODL

2008-02-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, >> What would be the legal situation? The data is not copyrightable, and >> its extraction does not fall unter database law. Would we, in spite >> of that, try to bind the user to ODL restrictions (attribution/share- >> alike) by contract? > > No. So as long as I extract non-significant amoun

[OSM-legal-talk] Database Law / extracting non-significant amounts of data, and ODL

2008-02-22 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, the current state of discussion/analysis is that a license like ODL would offer sound legal protection only where database law exists (e.g. in Europe), while for other jurisdictions (e.g. the US) we'd have to rely on the contractual aspect which may be hard because the contract do