Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Jukka Rahkonen wrote: > > Have you noticed that there are already quite many Australian datasets > including Victorian Government data listed here: > > >

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

> Thanks, Jukka. I suspect that "permission" isn't actually valid, as it > seems to extend from data.gov.au (Federal government) but most of the > datasets there are state or territory (eg, the VicMap Rivers dataset), and > are published on the relevant state/territory data portals

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Paul Norman wrote: > The problem is that they have specified a license with attribution that is > unreasonable for geodata (CC BY 3.0 and earlier). > How so? Emphasis is on "in a manner reasonable to the medium" which would be totally

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

Steve Bennett writes: > > Hi all,  I've been trying to convince the state government of Victoria (southeast Australia) to allow their VicMap raw data to be imported into OSM. It's currently CC-BY, and they've told me they're happy in principle for it to be used this way, but

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

Steve Bennett wrote [quoting DELWP]: > My initial response is that we wouldn't want OSM to apply a more > restrictive license than ours In which case they've chosen the wrong licence. If you license your work under a permissive, attribution-only licence (CC-BY), then you are automatically

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

Hi Steve Before this discussion goes off on a tangent, which version of CC-by are they currently using? Simon Am 30.08.2015 um 17:14 schrieb Steve Bennett: > Hi all, > I've been trying to convince the state government of Victoria > (southeast Australia) to allow their VicMap raw data to be

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

Wow, great responses everyone - much appreciated. Simon Poole: >Before this discussion goes off on a tangent, which version of CC-by are they currently using? http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/au/ You can see this for instance at:

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

Hello Steve, On 30.08.2015 17:14, Steve Bennett wrote: I wonder if there are any expert licence negotiators here who might be able to get involved in the discussion. I'm no such expert, but they just require attribution. Did they state any specific way of doing so? If not, then maybe just

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 2:33 PM, Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de wrote: Hello Steve, On 30.08.2015 17:14, Steve Bennett wrote: I wonder if there are any expert licence negotiators here who might be able to get involved in the discussion. I'm no such expert, but they just require

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: My understanding was that when you import data into OSM, you assign special permission to the OSMF to re-license the data under ODbL, so you need more than just CC-BY licensing to begin with. Did something change, or

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

Huh. Really? Did I completely misunderstand this? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission My understanding was that when you import data into OSM, you assign special permission to the OSMF to re-license the data under ODbL, so you need more than just CC-BY licensing to begin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: The problem is that they have specified a license with attribution that is unreasonable for geodata (CC BY 3.0 and earlier). Neither OpenStreetMap.org or most data consumers (e.g. MapBox) would meet the CC BY 3.0 and

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

The problem is that they have specified a license with attribution that is unreasonable for geodata (CC BY 3.0 and earlier). Neither OpenStreetMap.org or most data consumers (e.g. MapBox) would meet the CC BY 3.0 and earlier attribution requirements. There are a few options for permission. The

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

On 31 August 2015 at 12:05, Andrew Turner ajtur...@highearthorbit.com wrote: So a simpler route here would be to suggest upgrading to use CC-By 4.0? Or is Paul stating there is no known version of Creative Commons that is acceptable to OSM except the completely unencumbered CC0? See

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY - ODbL negotiators?

Sent from my Cyanogen phone On Aug 30, 2015 6:04 PM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Huh. Really? Did I completely misunderstand this?  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/GettingPermission My understanding was that when you import data into OSM, you assign special permission