Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-02-18 Thread Rob Myers
On 17/02/14 11:33 PM, Paul Norman wrote: Many of the companies failing to meet attribution requirements are using OpenStreetMap data for the majority of their map data, and sometimes have no attribution at all. The OpenStreetMap requirements are less onerous than alternative commercial

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-02-17 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
is about how difficult it is for some people to give away something and get nothing in return. Regards, Gert Gremmen, BSc Van: Simon Poole [mailto:si...@poole.ch] Verzonden: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 1:01 PM Aan: legal-talk@openstreetmap.org Onderwerp: Re: [OSM-legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-02-17 Thread Paul Norman
From: ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen [mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2014 4:47 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements The thing is that for us, for OpenStreetMap, the attribution is our

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-14 Thread Simon Poole
Am 13.01.2014 13:17, schrieb Jonathan Harley: . given that the OSM attribution is given equal prominence with their own Terms and their imagery attribution. (By the way, Alex and Eric from MapBox are members of this mailing list.) Surely should be given equal prominence with the map

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-14 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 14/gen/2014 um 10:54 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: a IMHO good example of what we want http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contact/spaces/ no mention of ODbL and the attribution three screens after the map (on mobile, maybe this looks different on a desktop)? cheers, Martin

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-14 Thread Simon Poole
I don't actually get a map (tested with three different mobile browsers), now I don't think we want to take our requirements so far that we want OSM attribution on everything :-) Am 14.01.2014 12:38, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 14/gen/2014 um 10:54 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-14 Thread Simon Poole
Am 14.01.2014 14:28, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: 2014/1/14 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch mailto:si...@poole.ch I don't actually get a map (tested with three different mobile browsers), now I don't think we want to take our requirements so far that we want OSM attribution on

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-14 Thread Kevin Farrugia
t: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 3:12 PMTo: Martin Koppenhoefer; Licensing and other legal discussions.Reply To: Licensing and other legal discussions.Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements Am 14.01.2014 14:28, schrieb Martin Ko

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-13 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 10/01/14 12:01, Simon Poole wrote: Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow: I like the Mapbox solution the author mentions of putting a box on the map to take you to another page. I realize that unless the user clicks on the link, they will never discover that OSM contributed to

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Jonathan, On 13.01.2014 13:17, Jonathan Harley wrote: What would happen if every data source started mandating that our attribution must be in the corner? The thing is that for us, for OpenStreetMap, the attribution is our main remuneration. We give our data away for free but in return, we

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-13 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 13.01.2014 18:06, Frederik Ramm wrote: Jonathan, On 13.01.2014 13:17, Jonathan Harley wrote: What would happen if every data source started mandating that our attribution must be in the corner? The thing is that for us, for OpenStreetMap, the attribution is our main remuneration. We give

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-13 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 13.01.2014 22:52, Stephan Knauss wrote: As long as other map suppliers like Google and Bing are happy by being only credited on a separate page, Are they? Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-13 Thread Stephan Knauss
On 13.01.2014 23:41, Frederik Ramm wrote: On 13.01.2014 22:52, Stephan Knauss wrote: As long as other map suppliers like Google and Bing are happy by being only credited on a separate page, Are they? No idea. Do their terms allow to use the tiles directly without using their own JS-API which

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 10/gen/2014 um 13:01 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: And I'm very tired of people trying to weasel around the absolute minimal requirements we pose on reuse of OSM data. like APPL? ;-) cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-12 Thread Simon Poole
Apple does not, as far as we know, use OSM data ODbL licensed by the foundation. Simon Am 12.01.2014 13:06, schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am 10/gen/2014 um 13:01 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: And I'm very tired of people trying to weasel around the absolute minimal requirements we

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-12 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2014/1/12 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch Apple does not, as far as we know, use OSM data ODbL licensed by the foundation. yes, they are supposedly ignoring former requirements (still valid for older data). cheers, Martin ___ legal-talk mailing list

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-11 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Simon Poole simon@... writes: Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow: I like the Mapbox solution the author mentions of putting a box on the map to take you to another page. I realize that unless the user clicks on the link, they will never

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-11 Thread Simon Poole
That are not the last board minutes as you know, there are: http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_Minutes_2013-12-10 Am 11.01.2014 10:07, schrieb Jukka Rahkonen: Simon Poole simon@... writes: Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow: I like the Mapbox

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-11 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Simon Poole simon@... writes: That are not the last board minutes as you know, there are: http://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Board_Meeting_Minutes_2013-12-10 It is not my pleasure to ask stupid questions but I had a black out even you clearly wrote See the last board minutes. I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution Requirements

2014-01-10 Thread Simon Poole
Am 10.01.2014 07:15, schrieb Clifford Snow: I like the Mapbox solution the author mentions of putting a box on the map to take you to another page. I realize that unless the user clicks on the link, they will never discover that OSM contributed to this product. Since OSM may be only one of