Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-05-10 Thread Michal Palenik
On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 10:09:08AM -0700, Luis Villa wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 9:39 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: represents a quantitatively substantial part of the general contents of the protected database. A quantitatively negligible part of the contents of a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
Luis, Thank you very much for your thoughtful comments, I hope you don't mind that I've referenced the mail link on the page for resource reading! On 30/04/2014 00:10, Luis Villa wrote: I think it is pretty clear that this rule is only for OSM/ODBL, but it wouldn't hurt to make that more

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-05-02 Thread Paul Norman
From: Luis Villa [mailto:lvi...@wikimedia.org] Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 10:09 AM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial Without going further into the details of the many drafting shortcomings of ODBL (which, to be clear

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-30 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Paul Norman wrote: Is there any relevant case law on substantial? A brief reminder that there are two useful wiki pages: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Statute_law http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Case_law which collect links to useful papers and cases. In particular Charlotte Waelde's paper

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-29 Thread Luis Villa
[Before addressing these technical legal issues, I should note that I represent the Wikimedia Foundation, not OSM/the OSM community. While I hope that in most cases the perspective of the WMF and the perspective of OSM are in alignment, OSM members and the OSMF should definitely seek their own

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-04-29 Thread Paul Norman
From: Luis Villa [mailto:lvi...@wikimedia.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 3:10 PM To: Licensing and other legal discussions. Subject: Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial Reminder that Simon has pointed out here quite recently that ODBL claims to be a binding contract