Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-06 Thread Andrew Harvey
I feel that it is not safe at this point. I have raised my concerns in this thread http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-December/005299.html On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 9:16 PM, Manuel Reimer manuel.s...@nurfuerspam.de wrote: Hello, is it secure to use Bing? Any license risks?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Andrew, Manuel - On 12/06/2010 10:28 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: I feel that it is not safe at this point. I have raised my concerns in this thread http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/legal-talk/2010-December/005299.html The situation is sufficient for me to use Bing imagery for tracing.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-06 Thread Rob Myers
On 12/06/2010 10:18 AM, Andrew Harvey wrote: I suppose I don't mind if a license is technically invalid because of some obscure legal reason, I just think that the intent needs to be there, publicly, officially, and clearly stated on what they are okay with and what they aren't. I don't think

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] Unsetting CT flag

2010-12-06 Thread 80n
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 6:58 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, pec...@gmail.com wrote: License is fine. It is CT which in fact still allows OSMF to change data license to any other free license (which could be strip share alike and attribution requirements) what blocks

[OSM-legal-talk] Database right for public transport

2010-12-06 Thread Andrei Klochko
Hello, first, to put things clear, I know of Transiki, I know of Google Transit obviously, I know of OSMand, and I know - a little - about database copyright in France. I already asked several lawyers about my questions, without it resulting in any clear answer. And no, what I intend to do will

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database right for public transport

2010-12-06 Thread Francis Davey
On 6 December 2010 20:57, Andrei Klochko transportspl...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, [snip] strategy, to avoid trouble. Any advice on such an entreprise? I'm not sure that this is really on topic for this list since it doesn't impact legally on open street map (or it shouldn't). Its also the kind

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Database right for public transport

2010-12-06 Thread Andrei Klochko
Hi, I am sorry, you are right, based on what I said, this conversation hardly concerns osm directly. I asked before I did not know where to start getting real help about this. And so, thank you for your answer. It finally got into the heart of the subject. I never thought of that point, that