Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-05-03 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Steve Coast steve@... writes: But that’s not what we’re talking about. We’re speaking here about the simple ask, that if you use OSM you please say clearly on the map that it is OSM. You’re getting a great dataset, for free, under an open license, that millions of people are contributing

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attribution

2014-05-03 Thread Simon Poole
Am 03.05.2014 10:26, schrieb Jukka Rahkonen: And by looking at the list of Top users editing over the past in [1], imports has nowadays a huge importance for the project - I was here, sitting in my own armchair. I did this import. Since I'm with the project I

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Guideline review: Substantial

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
Luis, Thank you very much for your thoughtful comments, I hope you don't mind that I've referenced the mail link on the page for resource reading! On 30/04/2014 00:10, Luis Villa wrote: I think it is pretty clear that this rule is only for OSM/ODBL, but it wouldn't hurt to make that more

[OSM-legal-talk] Community Guidelines (was Re: Attribution)

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
On 28/04/2014 23:27, Mikel wrote: Further I note there was 0 (zero) response to the proposed updated community guidelines that go a long way in clarifying a number of the grey areas, indicating that the whole upset is not about fixing real issues. Simon, first i've heard about this. Can you

[OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution

2014-05-03 Thread Michael Collinson
I've renamed the subject because it has gone way off topic, but I wanted to come back on Tobias' comment because it struck a chord and I would like to share a personal research topic. I am curious to evolve the idea further to see if there is any positive value. Open data is a different

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] The edges of share-alike on data Re: Attribution

2014-05-03 Thread Richard Weait
On Sat, May 3, 2014 at 11:51 AM, Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz wrote: Open data is a different animal to software source code and highly-creative works and I suspect it will [be] a few more years yet until we understand it all fully. Sure. Of course, we are part of why it is a big deal

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing OpenStreetMap at Mapbox

2014-05-03 Thread Jukka Rahkonen
Richard Weait richard@... writes: I feel that the attribution that you currently use provides insufficient recognition for OpenStreetMap. Do you feel that the attribution page should provide better recognition for OSM that for the other data providers? OSM data is probably the biggest data

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Attributing OpenStreetMap at Mapbox

2014-05-03 Thread Simon Poole
Am 03.05.2014 19:34, schrieb Jukka Rahkonen: Do you feel that the attribution page should provide better recognition for OSM that for the other data providers? OSM data is probably the biggest data source worldwide so it could be reasonable. However, in Finland and Norway, for example, MapBox