Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Does importing data give you a copyright?

2010-09-16 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/16/2010 02:19 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 16/09/2010 01:12, John Smith wrote: This happens all the time, new CDs are released of out of copyright music that copy is then re-protected. Would that protection only apply to the physical characteristics of the CD, such as printed inlay sleeves?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Does importing data give you a copyright?

2010-09-16 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/16/2010 01:07 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: The question is, how much do I have to do with that file before I can legally (or, if someone fancies going into that, morally) claim a copyright. What if I convert line endings or use an automated process to convert from one character set to another

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 September 2010 19:29, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote:  On 16/09/2010 16:43, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: If it isn't will this mean previous traced/imported Opendata will have to be removed? If the incompatibilities in the licenses / CTs are not resolved before the OSM license

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 September 2010 05:25, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: This clashes with the legal advice giving to the Licensing Working Group in that OS OpenData's license _is_ compatible with ODbL and the Contributor Terms. Specifically section 4 of the Contributor Terms provides a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread Rob Myers
On 09/16/2010 08:45 PM, John Smith wrote: On 17 September 2010 05:25, Grant Slateropenstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: This clashes with the legal advice giving to the Licensing Working Group in that OS OpenData's license _is_ compatible with ODbL and the Contributor Terms. Specifically section

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 September 2010 06:06, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: 4. At Your or the copyright holder’s option, OSMF agrees to attribute You or the copyright holder. A mechanism will be provided, currently a web page [...] The way that it allows attribution satisfies BY-SA 2.5+ as well as the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread 80n
On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.comwrote: On 16 September 2010 19:29, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 16/09/2010 16:43, Robert Whittaker (OSM) wrote: If it isn't will this mean previous traced/imported Opendata will have to be removed?

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread John Smith
On 17 September 2010 06:36, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: If you mean the licence of OSM, that would clash with section 4 of the CTs. In that case, Section 3 clashes with 4, since there is no minimum requirement of attribution. If you mean a produced work, that would clash with section

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread Grant Slater
On 16 September 2010 21:26, 80n 80n...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote: This clashes with the legal advice giving to the Licensing Working Group in that OS OpenData's license _is_ compatible with ODbL and the Contributor Terms.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread Markus
Isn't section 4 there so if the licence is changed in the future (section 3) that attribution is needed in a future licence. Markus_g -Original Message- From: legal-talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:legal-talk-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of John Smith Sent: Friday, 17