Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-07-08 01:43, Anthony wrote: The idea that the OSM database just reproduces geographical facts is, quite frankly, laughable. I would like to join the laughter so please show me an example of a non-geographical fact in the database. Bye, Andreas

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:59:26 +0200, Andreas Perstinger wrote: On 2011-07-08 01:43, Anthony wrote: The idea that the OSM database just reproduces geographical facts is, quite frankly, laughable. I would like to join the laughter so please show me an example of a non-geographical fact in the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Simon Poole
Geo-referenced facts? And, all of your examples other even less potential to be a protected work than your typical way. Simon Am 08.07.2011 09:10, schrieb Maarten Deen: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:59:26 +0200, Andreas Perstinger wrote: On 2011-07-08 01:43, Anthony wrote: The idea that the OSM

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Maarten Deen wrote: Turn restrictions, maximum speeds, oneway streets, even the value of the highway tag is not a geographical fact. Sure they are. If I walk about 20 yards from my front door, there's a no entry sign at a certain lat/long. If I walk a bit further along, facing the other way,

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Andreas Perstinger
On 2011-07-08 09:10, Maarten Deen wrote: On Fri, 08 Jul 2011 08:59:26 +0200, Andreas Perstinger wrote: On 2011-07-08 01:43, Anthony wrote: The idea that the OSM database just reproduces geographical facts is, quite frankly, laughable. I would like to join the laughter so please show me

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Maarten Deen
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 02:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Richard Fairhurst wrote: Maarten Deen wrote: Turn restrictions, maximum speeds, oneway streets, even the value of the highway tag is not a geographical fact. Sure they are. If I walk about 20 yards from my front door, there's a no entry sign at a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Myers
On 08/07/11 10:31, Maarten Deen wrote: IMHO that's stretching the geographic bit very far. Sure, the fact that there is a sign is a geographic fact, but the fact that that signifies something for the road or object that's there is just convention. And highway value is certainly not

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
On Fri, 8 Jul 2011 02:18:46 -0700 (PDT), Richard Fairhurst wrote: Maarten Deen wrote: Turn restrictions, maximum speeds, oneway streets, even the value of the highway tag is not a geographical fact. Sure they are. If I walk about 20 yards from my front door, there's a no entry sign at a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] license change effect on un-tagged nodes

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Myers
On 08/07/11 13:14, ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen wrote: And highway value is certainly not geographic. There is nothing about the location or presence of a road that makes it motorway or tertiary. That is only because it is designated as such. That designation can change

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [OSM-talk] offering adapted databases

2011-07-08 Thread Steve Coast
shifting to legal On 7/8/2011 3:50 PM, Anthony wrote: On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 6:14 PM, Steve Coastst...@asklater.com wrote: Lets say you make a map and someone wants the data. First, are you acting in the spirit of the license? Let's assume yes. That gets you 99% of the way there, despite