Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-03-04 Thread Erik Johansson
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: On 02/03/13 16:17, Erik Johansson wrote: On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: So - *must* you make your database of user-sourced geodata available to the OSM community? I answer

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-03-04 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, Personally, I think this does leave a loophole where you could reverse engineer OSM's data from imagery, but as I said at the time, I'm not worried about it because so much accuracy would be lost. In any case, Technically, it is possible to export in a format where accuracy is 100%

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-03-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 04.03.2013 11:29, schrieb Tadeusz Knapik: How come? ODbL doesn't enforce PW's license - if Produced Work is licenced Public Domain, how do you reach somebody who used this PD Produced Work to credit OSM? Sincerely, This is patently wrong, see ODbL 1.0 paragraph 4.3

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-03-04 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 04/03/13 11:53, Pieren wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: Personally, I think this does leave a loophole where you could reverse engineer OSM's data from imagery, but as I said at the time, I'm not worried about it because so much accuracy

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-03-04 Thread Simon Poole
Am 04.03.2013 13:39, schrieb Jonathan Harley: On 04/03/13 11:53, Pieren wrote: On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote: Personally, I think this does leave a loophole where you could reverse engineer OSM's data from imagery, but as I said at the time, I'm

[OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-03-04 Thread Olov McKie
Hello All! Again thank you for all your feedback. Unfortunately after the feedback that I have gotten so far on my initial 4 use-cases, and the 4 extra sub-use-cases I added later, I still do not know for sure if the use-cases I presented would trigger the ODbL share alike clause or not. My

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2013-03-04 Thread Bekim Kajtazi
Hello Michael, Just to let you know that I never heard back from anyone on the issue of the road data for Kosovo. I am not sure how things work, but I was very unhappy that all that data was removed after hundreds of work hours made by many volunteers in Kosova to update the original dataset

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License question, user clicking on map

2013-03-04 Thread Olov McKie
Hello All! Forgive me for the previous unfinished version of this mail, here is the complete version. Again thank you for all your feedback. Unfortunately after the feedback that I have gotten so far on my initial 4 use-cases, and the 4 extra sub-use-cases I added later, I still do not know

[OSM-legal-talk] produced work vs. derivative db

2013-03-04 Thread Michal Palenik
after reading all the documents/wiki/mailinglist I am still confused: what forces producers to publish a derivative database and not just produced work? usecase: a user takes a substantial part of osm db, hand modifies it (eg changes name of a street to correct one, make a new hiking route ...)

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] produced work vs. derivative db

2013-03-04 Thread Jonathan Harley
On 04/03/13 16:53, Michal Palenik wrote: after reading all the documents/wiki/mailinglist I am still confused: what forces producers to publish a derivative database and not just produced work? Clause 4.6 of the ODbL, which says if you publish a produced work you must make the database it

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] produced work vs. derivative db

2013-03-04 Thread Michal Palenik
may i add a question into faq/use cases: Q: I want to publish a slippy map/printed map based on OSM data. Is it a produced work or derivated database? A: The slippy map itself is a produced work, however the database you used has to meet the same requirements as published derived database or a

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] [GIS-Kosova] OSM road network for Kosova

2013-03-04 Thread Mike Dupont
I cannot help you bekim, It seems that the licensing is a lost cause. I for one have stopped wasting time on it. mike On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:31 AM, Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Michael, Just to let you know that I never heard back from anyone on the issue of the road