Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-30 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello,

 Our lawyers' advice is captured in the guideline as shared and posted in
 this revision:


 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guidelineoldid=1060775

 Just to clarify, the above is what your lawyers sent you, except for
 formatting changes to place it into a Wiki format?

 'Geocoding as it pertains to this guideline is a process by which external
data is used to construct a query by which an OpenStreetMap database is
searched. The result of the Geocoding query is one or more Geocodes.
Geocodes are then stored either permanently or temporarily together with
the external data used for querying. Geocodes can be latitude/longitude
pairs, full or partial addresses and or point of interest names. Geocodes
are a Produced Work by the definition of the ODbL'
That means that every other mapping project in the world gets that any way
he wants, right?:) In example, if I someone wants to add to a project ABC
all McDonald's localizations from all over the world, he just queries OSM
(query: McDonald), places the result (lat/lon+full addresses) in his
database, and adds an attribution I used some OSM data (a cron job would
do well).
Same with addressing in country X, Y or Z (and the attribution is already
there!:).
Sounds good. You just need to have some vector data with roads, the rest
goes from OSM as a Produced Work.
Regards,

Tadeusz
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-30 Thread Alex Barth
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 12:31 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:


 On 7/28/2014 12:07 AM, Alex Barth wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote:

  Please review:
 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guideline


 Alex, you mention it was based on what you've gotten from lawyers. Is
 there anything that can be shared, either publicly, or with the LWG for
 when they consider the guideline?


  Our lawyers' advice is captured in the guideline as shared and posted in
 this revision:


 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Open_Data_License/Geocoding_-_Guidelineoldid=1060775

 Just to clarify, the above is what your lawyers sent you, except for
 formatting changes to place it into a Wiki format?


The above is not what our lawyers sent us, it's the translation into
community guidelines of what our lawyers told us.
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-30 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 12:04 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer 
dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:

 Am 28/lug/2014 um 09:07 schrieb Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com:

 Our lawyers' advice is captured in the guideline as shared and posted in
 this revision:



 your lawyers did really say according to their understanding a pair of
 coordinates is similar to an image or a video, hence a work?


Yeah, there's no definition of 'work' in the ODbL, just a non-exclusive
list of examples in the definition of Produced Work.

 “Produced Work” – a work (such as an image, audiovisual material, text,
or sounds) resulting from using the whole or a Substantial part of the
Contents (via a search or other query) from this Database, a Derivative
Database, or this Database as part of a Collective Database. - See more at:
http://opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/1-0/#sthash.JPKZj3yo.dpuf
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-30 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer


Il giorno 30/lug/2014, alle ore 16:44, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com ha scritto:

 your lawyers did really say according to their understanding a pair of 
 coordinates is similar to an image or a video, hence a work? 
 
 Yeah, there's no definition of 'work' in the ODbL, just a non-exclusive list 
 of examples in the definition of Produced Work.


yes, but there is also a definition of derivative database, into which 
geocoding results seem to fit perfectly.

cheers,
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