Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using closed sources to spot errors (was: [Tagging] Routing in Liège (consulting Michelin))

2016-09-21 Thread Janko Mihelić 
sri, 21. ruj 2016. u 10:42 Martin Koppenhoefer 
napisao je:

>
> I am not sure if publishing the differences would be ok, but looking at
> them to decide where to survey is ok I think.
>

This service would be a personal tool for people to use, so no publishing.
Although you could share the link. I'm not sure what constitutes as
publishing.


> In your above sentence, rather than "which osm data is wrong" it should be
> "where osm data is different".
>

That's right.

Janko
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Using closed sources to spot errors (was: [Tagging] Routing in Liège (consulting Michelin))

2016-09-21 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer 


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> Il giorno 21 set 2016, alle ore 09:54, Janko Mihelić  ha 
> scritto:
> 
> and only show which OSM data is wrong according to the closed source. Then 
> mappers would go survey the shop. Would this be OK?


I am not sure if publishing the differences would be ok, but looking at them to 
decide where to survey is ok I think. In your above sentence, rather than 
"which osm data is wrong" it should be "where osm data is different".

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[OSM-legal-talk] Using closed sources to spot errors (was: [Tagging] Routing in Liège (consulting Michelin))

2016-09-21 Thread Janko Mihelić 
sri, 21. ruj 2016. u 08:54 joost schouppe 
napisao je:

>
> Using copyrighted material to spot errors in OSM is still copyright
> violation (well, a specialist in copyright should confirm that).
>

This is an interesting case. I think we are allowed to spot errors using
closed sources, but we can not use the source to say what is the right
solution. It's as if we are looking for differences between models, and
then using only the difference data to look further into the matter using
other sources (survey, Bing..).

This is interesting to me because I was thinking about making a service
that lists differences between OSM data and outside closed source data, and
then showing only what is different. Then people would use that "difference
data" to direct their mapping efforts. For example, take closed data about
opening hours, compare to OSM, and only show which OSM data is wrong
according to the closed source. Then mappers would go survey the shop.
Would this be OK?

Janko
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