Anybody can explain how it can be legal to claim copyright on old material,
say 18th or 19th century works?
When browsing the web (mostly library pages and catalogues) those
institutions often claim full copyright and prohibit reproduction,
distribution etc. of the
Am 14/gen/2014 um 10:54 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:
a IMHO good
example of what we want http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/contact/spaces/
no mention of ODbL and the attribution three screens after the map (on mobile,
maybe this looks different on a desktop)?
cheers,
Martin
2014/1/14 pmsg pmsg2...@yahoo.com
can we use Corine Land Cover data? I think not, but I would
be grateful to be tought something different.
I think it depends on the country, AFAIK this is not one big dataset but
several datasets, with different licensing according to the contributing
2014/1/13 pmsg pmsg2...@yahoo.com
Thank you for your opinions,
pmsg
legal issues aside my concern is that Corine Data is not suitable
technically for OSM: the resolution is too low and not compatible with the
rest of our data.
cheers,
Martin
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Am 10/gen/2014 um 13:01 schrieb Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:
And I'm very tired of people trying to weasel around the absolute minimal
requirements we pose on reuse of OSM data.
like APPL?
;-)
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2014/1/12 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch
Apple does not, as far as we know, use OSM data ODbL licensed by the
foundation.
yes, they are supposedly ignoring former requirements (still valid for
older data).
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2013/11/2 Abhishek cheerful...@gmail.com
I'm confused about what the rules are for downstream commercial users
of OSM data to merge OSM data with other sources. Apple seems have
done this with their Maps product.
You can't really see Apple as a reference, because of two reasons:
1. they
2013/9/10 Martin Feuersaenger m...@feuersaenger.de
So my question is: Is my conclusion right, can I publish under less
restrictive terms, or do I need to remove the shots in order to publish at
all?
You should ask Google and Bing about this, it is not related to OSM ;-)
cheers,
Martin
2013/8/29 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com
Their is clear and full understanding by USG that data digitized into OSM
is made available under the ODbL, which allows commercial use.
This is stated on their website at
https://hiu.state.gov/ittc/ittc.aspx(Description tab).
Data cc-by-sa
2013/8/25 Stephan Knauss o...@stephans-server.de
The license text says:
“ The party receiving the data cannot share the imagery or LIDP with a
third party without express permission from the USG. At no time should this
imagery or LIDP be used for other than USG-related purposes and must
I wonder if we have a strategy how to deal with companies who use our data
but don't attribute in the right way or don't adhere to the license terms.
In the past we had Apple (still unsolved, at least since April 2012) and
Microsoft (using military areas from OSM to blur their imagery), now there
On 16/giu/2013, at 03:47, Erik Johansson erjo...@gmail.com wrote:
While I agree with Richard, it might be interesting to know that
Wikidata (a Wikimedia.de project) is licensed CC-0, and they copy data
wholesale from Wikipedia.
that's indeed interesting, how can they throw the original
On 16/giu/2013, at 12:14, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote:
that's indeed interesting, how can they throw the original viral licenses of
Wikipedia overboard?
Based on what I've seen, what they are copying from Wikipedia are data and
facts. In the US, facts are not
On 13/giu/2013, at 15:58, Olov McKie o...@mckie.se wrote:
All other geocoding results in a Produced Work,
IMHO it results in a Derivative Database, as long as the amount of data
geocoded is not too small.
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2013/6/7 Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com
2. The ODbL is too vague in the definition of its terms, requiring
additional clarifications by licensor. This is most importantly the case
around the terms derivative database and what constitutes a substantial
extraction of data [3].
At least for the
2013/4/25 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es
The answer to this might be different if your jurisdiction doesn't apply
the
european database directive.
But which is the relevant jurisdiction, the one the mapper is in, or the
one the database is in (i.e. where you perform the actual
2013/4/25 Pieren pier...@gmail.com
I'm not sure it has to do with non-substantial amounts of data. But
business websites publishing their own address or list of addresses is
reallly intended to be shared and republished everywhere.
I'd also see it like this, it is quite unlikely that they
Am 07/mar/2013 um 16:21 schrieb Bekim Kajtazi bekim.kajt...@gmail.com:
Whatever case it is...the data is gone!!!
Generally it is your responsibility to keep your contact information up to date.
I sent 2 times around 100-200 emails to the major contributors to OSM on the
Italian grounds
2013/1/17 Jeff Meyer j...@gwhat.org
from http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright:
For a browsable electronic map, the credit should appear in the corner of
the map. For example:
below there is this paragraph:
Finding out more
Read more about using our data, and how to credit us, at the Legal
Looking at the licensing page there is still the explicit requirement
to credit osm in the corner of the map and in the meantime the FAQ
has been amended with the same requirement. Some time ago this wasn't
required explicitly, that's why I ask when this was introduced and by
whom? (the old
2012/10/30 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
See also:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Closed_Issues#What_sort_of_access_to_Derivative_Databases_is_required.3F
The page is quite old; the green boxes represent legal advice that we have
received at the time.
It is also
deliberately Offlist
2012/10/30 Michael Collinson m...@ayeltd.biz:
No loop hole. Unless I am missing something earlier in the thread, this is
covering very old ground. This is the LWG understanding: The buzz phrase
is layered copyright. Using an open licensed photo of a MacDonald's
I am reading the new copyright and license page, but don't find it
very clear to understand.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright
How to credit OpenStreetMap
We require that you use the credit “© OpenStreetMap contributors”. You
must also make it clear that the data is available under the
During the license change from cc-by-sa to ODbL the issue was raised
that 3 weeks for an active contributor to respond to a voting for a
license change was not sufficient and IIRR the response was that this
would be dealt with later. What is the view on this? How can this
detail be changed, and
I found the thread:
http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSM-legal-talk-CT-time-period-for-reply-to-a-new-license-change-active-contributor-td5270119.html
basically what Michael Collinson wrote makes sense:
- In the case of a major license change, there would be a run up of at
least several months of
2012/10/24 andrzej zaborowski balr...@gmail.com:
As has been noted in the Public Domain subset thread, the contributors
can make license statement that they like, but the OSMF can still
enforce the database rights. So a statement by the contributors (e.g.
on OSM wiki) that is not confirmed by
2012/10/22 Igor Brejc igor.br...@gmail.com:
Would there be a difference if it was PNG/SVG instead of PDF?
there are 2 ways to put graphics into a PDF: those with vectors
embedded and those with a raster inside. The first is to treat like a
SVG and the second like a PNG (always asuming you
I wonder if data you download now or did so in the past from OSM
servers can be used as PD data. There are some users who have publicly
declared that they consider their contributions to OSM to be in the
public domain. For simplicity I'd like to restrict this question to
users who have either made
Reading the wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines#Make_sure_data_license_is_OK
quote
What we certainly cannot do is require end-users of our
data/renderings to give credit to the particular data donor. With this
in mind, our attribution may not be sufficient legally speaking
What does Unknown license mean for fotos in the wiki? Isn't there a
requirement for them to be at least available under cc-by-sa?
An example is here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Ballroom.jpg
cheers,
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2012/6/11 Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk:
In answer to the queries below, the data is free to use as is the OS
open data on their website.
...
So in short, we believe the RoW data can be incorporated into
OpenStreetmap as long as acknowledgement and copyright is shown from
where it
Am 11. April 2012 00:06 schrieb Mike Dupont jamesmikedup...@googlemail.com:
and this on the copyright of css :
http://b0x0rz.deviantart.com/journal/Is-CSS-Copyrightable-214148624
First, a short answer to a question (for the impatient ones): Is CSS
Copyrightable?
No. Absolutely NOT. (note:
Am 6. März 2012 17:52 schrieb Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
On 03/06/2012 02:36 PM, Frederik Ramm wrote:
Personally, I don't think that *verifying* their data against OSM data
(in the sense of flagging potential problems, as long as they don't copy
our data outright) would be a valid use
2012/2/13 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:
PS: essentially such an import should never get pass the community
discussion part in the first place.
FYI: In Italy there are currently some imports going on, where the
data is licensed cc-by-2.5 and there are also other imports of the
past under this
2012/1/29 Dirk-Lüder Kreie osm-l...@deelkar.net:
demotivated by the data loss. but filling in gaps is really much
quicker done than starting from scratch.
+1, at least there already are tags for most things, comfortable
editors and lots of experienced mappers ;-)
cheers,
Martin
I know that some variants of this topic already have been under
discussion, but I'd like to add another version to it, where I believe
that indeed there will be no copyright left by the declining mapper.
Three mappers Ac1, Ac2 (acceptors) and Dec1 (decliner) edit an object:
1. Ac1 creates a
2012/1/13 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Ok, I've discussed this off-list with Nick and did a test run for 1000 (of
roughly a quarter million) ways. Here is one example touched by the script:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/4018604
Nice, this will also significantly change the
2011/12/21 ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen g.grem...@cetest.nl:
I think it's relevant that node changes as suggested
should involve stand alone nodes only (such as POI).
Once they are part of a structure of say a building or a road, water
or any area, the nodes should be
2011/11/29 Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org:
A PNG doesn't fit this description as its intent is to encode a single
complete image and the pixels are not independent. Likewise PNG and SVG.
Place them in a systematic or methodical collection and you have a
database of images. But this is separate
2011/11/23 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
But I think that the specific example under discussion here actually falls
short of even this lowered bar. It is quite possible for me to grab a whole
Way in JOSM and move it one metre to the left (which makes me the last
editor of, potentially,
Thanks. The reason I asked that was that I frequently forget where the GPS
trace was taken - was it a road or a track, which village or whatever else.
This usually happens in areas where OSM map is pitch white :) Yahoo maps
aren't very helpful there either.
well, you can still upload the
2009/9/28 Jukka Rahkonen jukka.rahko...@mmmtike.fi:
Mike Collinson m...@... writes:
Article 10
Term of protection
1. The right provided for in Article 7 shall run from the date of completion
of
the making of the database. It shall expire fifteen years from the first of
January of the year
2009/9/28 Gustav Foseid gust...@gmail.com:
2009/9/28 Iván Sánchez Ortega i...@sanchezortega.es
Better? :-)
:-)
does this mean yes? What is the situation with planned Odbl?
cheers,
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2009/8/17 Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com:
You may wish to set up a Belgium equivalent for this page to act as a
record of such reverts. As you can see we have been having some
problems of our own.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GB_revert_request_log
actually I just fwded. the
://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
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2009/8/12 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
One such road went into someone's car port, I don't think we have
barrier=car_port :)
in this case it will not be a road but a highway=service in Europe and
probably access=private (at least for the last few meters), don't know
about the
2009/8/12 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
--- On Wed, 12/8/09, Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote:
yes, don't mark them as normal roads if they are in a
degraded state.
It's worst than that in a lot of cases, they were gazetted, but never built.
there is also a tagging
2009/8/12 John Smith delta_foxt...@yahoo.com:
We're not trying to put copyrighted information in the database, we're
recording an observation, no different then recording the name on a street
sign,
no, it's not the same. Because you're gonna write that there is
nothing. Why there? Why don't
2009/7/14 Gervase Markham gerv-gm...@gerv.net:
Royal Mail doesn't know the exact location of all its postboxes. If we
find out for them, what are the chances they would sue us? It's flipping
useful from their point of view. They could apply proper Travelling
Salesman algorithms to them to
2009/6/25 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
Yeah, sure, and if I leave the house a brick might fall on my head and
I'd be dead.
I'm almost sure you wanted to write tile ;-)
cheers,
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2009/6/25 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
For example, if we build strong national chapters that, legally, are
separate from OSMF, these could easily between themselves set up all the
servers required to replace everything OSMF operates. With such a
healthy backup network, it would not
2009/6/25 Martin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com:
Hallo Frederik
oops, sorry, not for the list.
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2009/3/2 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org:
80n wrote:
I can imagine a scenario where, for example, Google uses Amazon's Mechanical
Turk to pay lots of people to use Map Maker to trace from OSM's rendered
tiles.
Is this a scenario we could try to fight when it happens, instead of
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