Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 09/12/2009, at 11:46 AM, Anthony wrote: A transfer of copyright is a transfer of exclusive rights. In the US, and probably in other jurisdictions as well, it must be signed and in writing. One key difference is that someone who is granted a nonexclusive license does not have the power

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread Rob Myers
On 11/12/09 10:26, James Livingston wrote: * You wouldn't be able to use data you personally collected, except under the ODbL (the last part of the second sentence on the second paragraph above). I believe that the FSF copyright assignment scheme licences your work back to you once you sign

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread andrzej zaborowski
2009/12/11 James Livingston doc...@mac.com: Some other potential points against using copyright transfer: * Given one of the arguments against CC-BY-SA is that in some jurisdictions the data isn't subject to copyright, copyright assignment of the data would be a bit questionable. * Businesses

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Licence termination

2009-12-11 Thread Ulf Möller
David Groom schrieb: The first time I access the database [definition (1)] then, for as long as the database is directly accessible, am I not being granted a right to continue to access it under the terms existing when I first accessed it? No, the license gives you the right to Use the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread James Livingston
On 12/12/2009, at 7:07 AM, andrzej zaborowski wrote: But if the foundation wants to have copyright in the data I think it's trivial for it to have some by doing *some* of the maintenance edits on behalf of the foundation or one person (or more) transferring their rights instead of everyone

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] ODbL Enforcement (Re: OBbL and forks)

2009-12-11 Thread Anthony
On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 9:03 PM, James Livingston doc...@mac.com wrote: 2) One or more contributors suing for copyright infringement - one of the things that ODbL supposedly fixes is being sued for this by individual contributors, so lets discount it for now. The ODbL doesn't cover the

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 09/12/09 09:48, Ed Avis wrote: A related question is that if a fork happened, could it then be merged back into the main OSM project? Just like any other ODbL contribution, this could only be done if the contributors signed the Contributor Terms, or the OSMF agreed to waive the signing of

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OBbL and forks

2009-12-11 Thread Gervase Markham
On 08/12/09 15:14, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Right, so this is one thing that isn't being made so clear. It's been said multiple times that the ODbL transition in summary is the spirit of CC-By-SA taken and made into a proper license for a database. But actually it's the spirit of CC-By-SA +