Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Alex Barth
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 11:02 PM, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Again and again we hear, make it easier for people to geocode their proprietary databases and OSM can only benefit from it because everyone who saves $$ using OSM somehow magically helps OSM. I'm not convinced of that.

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Alex Barth
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 7:30 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: Please review: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/ Geocoding_-_Guideline Alex, you mention it was based on what you've gotten from lawyers. Is there anything that can be shared, either publicly, or with

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 28/lug/2014 um 09:07 schrieb Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com: Our lawyers' advice is captured in the guideline as shared and posted in this revision: your lawyers did really say according to their understanding a pair of coordinates is similar to an image or a video, hence a work? The

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Tadeusz Knapik
Hello, 2014-07-28 7:19 GMT+02:00 Eric Gundersen e...@mapbox.com: Accuracy is what matters, not skimping on a few $. We have dozens of large companies like this that would love to more tightly integrate their internal data with OSM via goecoding, but because of unclear guidelines are

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Randy Meech
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Eric Gundersen e...@mapbox.com wrote: Let's not kid ourselves here. The overwhelming number of commercial OSM users are not driven by a motivation to help us, but by a motivation to save money (or perhaps a motivation to escape a monopolist's clutch but that

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 07/28/2014 12:07 PM, Tadeusz Knapik wrote: What I'm not clear is if community guidelines are strong enough to able to change it without touching the license itself There's a couple sides to this. OSMF is limited to distributing the data under ODbL or CC-By-SA as per the contributor

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Paul Norman
On 7/28/2014 6:31 AM, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 07/28/2014 12:07 PM, Tadeusz Knapik wrote: What I'm not clear is if community guidelines are strong enough to able to change it without touching the license itself There's a couple sides to this. OSMF is limited to distributing the data under

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Mikel Maron
I would like to add my voice to this discussion. I strongly believe that within the intended spirit of the OSM license, geocoding as defined in this proposal should _not_ trigger share alike. I also believe that the legal interpretation proposed has merit, but if legal advice suggests another

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Updated geocoding community guideline proposal

2014-07-28 Thread Mikel Maron
I would like to add my voice to this discussion. I strongly believe that within the intended spirit of the OSM license, geocoding as defined in this proposal should _not_ trigger share alike. I also believe that the legal interpretation proposed has merit, but if legal advice suggests another