[L-I] Nuclear War

2001-01-16 Thread Communards
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[L-I] Links on independent European military force

2001-01-16 Thread Johannes Schneider
In a recent post I mentioned the disagreement over the European military force. Here are a few links from the BBC website: December 10, 1999 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_557000/557700.stm May 24, 2000 http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/world/europe/newsid_761000/761467.stm

[L-I] Notes from Louise Bryant Six Red Months in Russia [reformatted]

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Jones
Notes from Louise Bryant "Six Red Months in Russia" [written 1917]. [Bryant was the political co-worker and lover of John Reed. In this little memoir she gives her thumbnail impressions about Lenin, the Bolsheviks and the early days of Soviet Power.] The workingmen demand, above all, frankness

RE: [L-I] Re: Russia: CPRF Leader Interviewed - Russia TV

2001-01-16 Thread Alexander Domrin
On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 22:18:31 +, Owen Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the members of their [KPRF] Central Committee advocated the extermination of the Russian Jewish population. Who? Where? When? Alexander Domrin ___ Leninist-International

[L-I] Lenin on the National Question

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Jones
V. I . Lenin Lenin on the National Question THE SOCIALIST REVOLUTION AND THE RIGHT OF NATIONS TO SELF-DETERMINATION (THESES) 1. IMPERIALISM, SOCIALISM AND THE LIBERATION OF OPPRESSED NATIONS Imperialism is the highest stage of development of capitalism. Capital in the

Re: [L-I] Re: Russia: CPRF Leader Interviewed - Russia TV

2001-01-16 Thread Louis Proyect
I do not know whether General Makashov was a CPRF CC member, but he was elected on the CPRF slate to the Duma. Unfortunately it will be rather easy to find more antisemitic quotes from leading CPRF members. Johannes Just as you will find antisemitic quotes from leaders of the German Communist

Re: [L-I] Re: Russia: CPRF Leader Interviewed - Russia TV

2001-01-16 Thread Alexander Domrin
1. I do not know whether General Makashov was a CPRF CC member, but he was elected on the CPRF slate to the Duma. Makashov was NEVER on the KPRF Party List. In 1999 he was on the party list of "Movement in Support of Army" (Ilyukhin, Makashov, Savelyev) which got 0.58 percent of votes and

[L-I] [ISWoR-org] pt 2 - The RKRP, Pseudo-Communists and Antisemites

2001-01-16 Thread SMye5
Subj: pt 2 - The RKRP, Pseudo-Communists and Antisemites Date: 12/01/01 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PART TWO The RKRP after Anpilov In the explanation of Anpilov's departure given on the party's official website, there is not a word about racism. Instead, his expulsion in 1996 is described

Re: [L-I] Re: Russia: CPRF Leader Interviewed - Russia TV

2001-01-16 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
Considering the sectarian nature of the matter, I tend to agree. Steve, your address is [EMAIL PROTECTED], so people who are burning to get your analysis will get it there. Too many people are choked at your analysis. Personally, I am not pleased with calling the Zyuganov bunch "linked with the

[L-I] Digital Joe Hill

2001-01-16 Thread Charles Brown
Final Edition 2001-01-10 How the Internet sustained a strike By Paul Andrews Seattle Union Record A digital Joe Hill helped carry the torch for the Seattle newspaper strike. Economies of scale. Low barriers to entry. Reduced distribution costs. Creation of community. The Internet was the

[L-I] Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread SMye5
My previous post expressed deep admiration of Owen's concise post on the KPRF. Now let us stare at some of the timer-servers who responded and could not understand the genuine Marxist kernel within this important post. Steve XXx In a message dated 15/01/01 23:12:20 GMT

Re: [L-I] Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread Louis Proyect
Owen presents a balanced analysis. Jones and Proyect start arguing that the list should be wound up, Is Owen somehow threatening civilisation as we know it? What left list-politics is really behind all this going on? Can someone explain? Steve Myers. Sure. This list has been dominated by

Re: Interimperialist strife (was Re: [L-I] Chemical/Nuclear Warfare inBosnia: Eyewitness To Hell)

2001-01-16 Thread Johannes Schneider
Carrol Cox wrote: Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote: If this is the scenario, then many may be thinking of a new age of "own spheres of influence" such as during the 30s. In a different context, this would have meant a war in a not so far future. What do we think of the possibilities

Re: [L-I] Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
Sometimes (although it is very rare) listmembers make the job much easier. The job being to determine how to deal with a situation delicately that is becoming more and more hostile. Then someone is kind enough to say the following. Owen presents a balanced analysis. Jones and Proyect start

Re: [L-I] Notes from Louise Bryant Six Red Months in Russia [reformatted]

2001-01-16 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
Lenin 'will flay an opponent in debate and walk out of the hall arm-in-arm with him.[...]' *** The purpose of L-I summed up 84 years ago. Macdonald --- Macdonald Stainsby Rad-Green List: Radical anti-capitalist environmental discussion.

Re: [L-I] Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread LROBERTS46
Remember, some of us are not arm chair revolutionaries. We are very busy. If the posts are not serious and relevant and I don't have time to read them. At least one friend has already gotten off the list because of time wasting flaming. I just got off the Black Left list because some men

Re: [L-I] Notes from Louise Bryant Six Red Months in Russia [reformatted]

2001-01-16 Thread Louis Proyect
At 12:59 PM 1/16/01 -0800, you wrote: Lenin 'will flay an opponent in debate and walk out of the hall arm-in-arm with him.[...]' *** The purpose of L-I summed up 84 years ago. Macdonald I want to expand upon this a little. In a very real sense, these mailing lists are a microcosm of the

[L-I] Nikolai Podvoisky on Lenin and October 1of2

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Jones
The October Rising: a feeble putsch by a few intellectuals? "... my relations with Vladimir Ilyich had been most cordial. But at that moment... I saw the full extent of [his] responsibility for the fate of the country and the revolution... " "... an armed insurrection means arming wide

[L-I] Fw: National Lawyers Guild press release re: Jan. 20 lawsuit

2001-01-16 Thread Gary Wilson
This message will be of interest to anyone going to Washington Jan. 20 to join the protests at the inauguration parade. Because the police and Secret Service have decided that everyone much go through a checkpoint gate to enter the area and that they will decide who can and can't enter, a lawsuit

[L-I] Re: Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread Tony Abdo
Well I do 'fret'. I am not sure what is supposed to be accomplished by removing Vladimir Bilenkin, Steve Myers, and Owen Jones from the list? And I say this from having been admonished myself in the past, for the level of rhetoric I have engaged in with 2 of these individuals. True.

Re: [L-I] Re: Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread Louis Proyect
At 06:33 PM 1/16/01 -0600, you wrote: Well I do 'fret'. I am not sure what is supposed to be accomplished by removing Vladimir Bilenkin, Steve Myers, and Owen Jones from the list? And I say this from having been admonished myself in the past, for the level of rhetoric I have engaged in

[L-I] Re: Lenin on the role + work of Party media

2001-01-16 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
I am curious as to whether anyone has a citation for when Lenin said that "What is to be done?" had become irrelevant. I tend to believe it has some benefits we can learn from (as in which questions to ask), but am skeptical of the relevance it has for actions we might take in 2001. (State and

Re: [L-I] Re: Lenin on the role + work of Party media

2001-01-16 Thread Louis Proyect
Mac wrote: I am curious as to whether anyone has a citation for when Lenin said that "What is to be done?" had become irrelevant. I tend to believe it has some benefits we can learn from (as in which questions to ask), but am skeptical of the relevance it has for actions we might take in 2001.

Re: [L-I] Re: Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
- Original Message - From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is not about censoring a point of view. It is about trying to move away from dead end factionalism. There were problems with James (Red Rebel) Tait, the DHKC, and A. Wosni as well. I can't even

[L-I] My resignation as moderator from L-I

2001-01-16 Thread Johannes Schneider
This will be my last post to L-I both as moderator and as a subscriber. Since there are still some comrades on this list I respect, they owe an explanation. Here are the reason, why do not want to be associated with this list in any way any longer: 1. The acceptance of the defence of

RE: [L-I] Re: Owen-the-Kid Panics Old Goats

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Jones
I am also a member of Solidarity, and contribute commentary on that list sponsored by that organization, where Owen and Steve's views on Milosevic and Kagarlitsky reign supreme. It does not make my case easier to argue against these views there, when a level of intolerance for debate

RE: [L-I] My resignation as moderator from L-I

2001-01-16 Thread Mark Jones
1. The acceptance of the defence of anti-semitism ('not the real question') or anti-semitism itself ( criticising Yeltsin for beeing a Jew ) from the side of moderators. This is simply too disgusting that I do not want to go into further details. It is not a *criticism* of Yeltsin to say

[L-I] No, yes, but...

2001-01-16 Thread Mine Aysen Doyran
Al-Ahram Weekly On-line 11 - 17 January 2001 Issue No.516 http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2001/516/fr1.htm No, yes, but... Most Palestinians have said "No" to US proposals. But has their leader? Graham Usher writes from Jerusalem -- Mine Aysen Doyran Ph.D Student Department of Political