[L-I] Re: [L-I] [Portuguese] Plano Colômbia: vai sobrar para

2000-10-25 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
La dirección [EMAIL PROTECTED] deja de existir al 30 de julio de 2000. A partir de esa fecha solamente recibiremos mensajes en [EMAIL PROTECTED] The address [EMAIL PROTECTED] will not exist after july 30, 2000. The only valid address after that date will be [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___

[L-I] (Fwd) Palestine Derniers développements n°40 Lundi 23/10/000

2000-10-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
On Palestinian resistance. --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 18:32:41 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Palestine Derniers développements n°40 Lundi 23/10/000 BCC to: PalestineAddameer Dernie

[L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: [nation-arabe] Caméras ensanglantées ..]

2000-10-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 21:36:58 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:[Fwd: [nation-arabe] Caméras ensanglantées ..] BCC to: Il s'agit d'un message multivolet au format MIME. --0

[L-I] [Portuguese] Plano Colômbia: vai sobrar para o Brasi

2000-10-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
UN COMENTARIO EN _TRIBUNA DA IMPRENSA_ SOBRE EL "PLAN COLOMBIA" A COMMENT FROM _TRIBUNA DA IMPRENSA_ ON THE "COLOMBIA PLAN" Organization: UFPB-NEPREMAR To: Lista de geografia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Gilson Melo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent:

[L-I] (Spanish - Fwd) Ozone layer dangerously weak on South America

2000-10-22 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
In Spanish. No comments. The towns of Punta Arenas (250,000, Chile), Río Gallegos (70,000, Argentina), Río Grande (60,000, Argentina) and Ushuaia (50,000, Argentina) are now under an ozone layer 30% weaker than normal. First time this happens. Maybe the UV-B radiation can be easily stopped with c

[L-I] (Spanish) Chacho Alvarez: a course in betrayal

2000-10-22 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
What follows has been written by someone who has honestly believed in the revolutionary credentials of the FREPASO, the coalition of mild progressives led by the now resigning Vice President Chacho Alvarez. He knows Alvarez from within the FREPASO, obviously: The interest is enhanced by the fact t

[L-I] (Fwd) Irish Republican Writers Group

2000-10-21 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
From: "Ciaran MacNamee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Irish Republican Writers Group Date sent: Sat, 21 Oct 2000 20:51:02 +0100 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Comrades interested in the anti-imperi

[L-I] (Portuguese) FHC on murder of a landless protester: "A warning to Brazilian people"

2000-10-21 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
I would greatly thank our Portuguese or Brazilian comrades for a translation. This is unbelievable, even in Brazil. I am not sure that Menem would have gone that far... --- Forwarded message follows --- To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: "Simone R

[L-I] (Spanish) Local scientists: weak ozone layer poses no serious risks in the Magellan strait area

2000-10-21 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Analyises by local medical doctors and scientists on the situation in the Magellan Strait area. --- Forwarded message follows --- From: "amendez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "pol-cien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:pol-cien : No hay riesgos

[L-I] (Fwd) Palestine - Derniers développements N° 33 – Lundi 16 oc

2000-10-20 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 22:51:28 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Palestine - Derniers développements N° 33 – Lundi 16 octobre 2000 BCC to: Derniers développements N° 33 – Lundi

[L-I] Argentina after the resignation of the Vice President

2000-10-19 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Since L-I moderator Johannes Schneider has been kind enough to resend this posting in Spanish (due to formatting reasons it had reached well over the 40 kb limit, and he took the pain to reformat it), I thought I should translate it for everyone's benefit. An analysis on the resignation of Vice P

Re: [L-I] Kostunica: 'almost as much trouble from my friends as from my enemies'

2000-10-14 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Kostunica: 'almost as much trouble from my , el 12 Oct 00, a las 14:50, Johannes Schneider dijo: > President Clinton's Balkan adviser, James C. O'Brien Transoceanic travel has a deleterous effect on Irishmen, or so it seems. Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] __

[L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: CIA Brown Shirt Vandals Attack Yusgoslavian Social

2000-10-12 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 12 Oct 2000 21:01:13 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:[Fwd: CIA Brown Shirt Vandals Attack Yusgoslavian Socialist Party HQ.] BCC to: "Infinite Communist Revolution !!!" a

Re: [L-I] Revolutionary prisoners on hunger strike in Argentina

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Revolutionary prisoners on hunger strik, el 10 Oct 00, a las 3:10, Julio Fernandez Baraibar dijo: And for the same reasons explained in the point 1) by Nestor, should be inmediately released Col. Muhamed Ali Seineldin and the rest of the high officers held as a consequenc

[L-I] (Fwd) (Fwd) [PEN-L:2980] Some nations "rescued" by IMF and Wor

2000-10-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
[Traducción personal de Néstor Gorojovsky] The Observer (London) October 8, 2000 Insumos básicos más caros, peor pobreza, y vidas más cortas Un estudio interno del Fondo Monetario revela el precio que pagan los países "rescatados" por Greg Palast Bueno, digan que soy un mentiroso. Estaba p

Re: [L-I] Re: Kostunica gives away the store

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Re: Kostunica gives away the store, el 9 Oct 00, a las 0:03, Yoshie Furuhashi dijo: > >In one day and given;' away the store. > > Both Chomsky and Kostunica are fools if they think that what the Serbs > have to say about Kosovo, Srebrenica, etc. will change the West's > Balkan

(Spanish) On the Argentinian political situation

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear cdes: I am forwarding the main points of a recent document drafted by my comrade Osvaldo Calello on September 2000. In my opinion, this document is a very accurate description of the situation in Argentina before the Vice President Alvarez resigned, and explains the social meaning of his

On the Argentinian situation (in Spanish)

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear comrades, I am forwarding the editorial note of the issue of October of 'Patria y Pueblo". It has been written by my cde. Jorge Enea Spilimbergo. Will send comments on the resignation of the Vice President this week. --- Forwarded message follows --- Deuda externa y tasa cambiar

Re: [L-I] COUP IN YUGOSLAVIA

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] COUP IN YUGOSLAVIA, el 10 Oct 00, a las 3:39, Partha Bhattacharya dijo: > ... We will continuously discuss > on the net that Slobo was wrong(!) and someone else > was right and not telling about any alternative. In > the mean while a declared anti-communist Kostunica > wi

Re: [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia, el 6 Oct 00, a las 2:05, Macdonald Stainsby dijo: > > ... The whole trap is set. Milosevic > > is fought to the corner of the room, and is offered an escape to > > Belarus. > > The Nicaragua/Sandinista solution. > Well, I thought more of an

[L-I] (Fwd) RV: [REDH] TABLADA: PELIGRO DE MUERTE (Por Miguel Bonas

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
In spite of the slanderous opinion that the dhkc comrades have expressed on my political morality on previous posting, I actually _am_ active in the defence of the Tablada prisoners who are on hunger strike. I understand that the Turkish comrades have a sense of urgency and that my comment may ha

Ilic: "Stormers: former paratroopers, army officers, special forces"

2000-10-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Interesting: on the class composition of the assailants of the Belgrade parliament. The "mass demonstration" contained a hard core of former members of the security forces and of assault troops, under the orders of Ilic. Again, during the 1955 coup in Argentina, there were "civilians" in Cór

Re: [L-I] Revolutionary prisoners on hunger strike in Argentina

2000-10-09 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Some comments of importance: 1) First and foremost, the prisoners should be released IMMEDIATELY. There is no questioning this, and of course I support the claim. Not only because there is a duty of humanity involved, but also because they were imprisoned as scapegoats for the actual people who

Re: Soviet Russia and the Western working classes (was: Re: [L-I] Why the Western Left Failed to Defend Y)

2000-10-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: Soviet Russia and the Western working classes, el 8 Oct 00, a las 10:08, Editor dijo: > The editorial board of left.ru did not mean to ignite a discussion on > the social nature of the SU, Stalin/Trotsky controversy and similar > subjects. It is not that these questions are ign

Soviet Russia and the Western working classes (was: Re: [L-I] Why the Western Left Failed to Defend Y)

2000-10-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Why the Western Left Failed to Defend Y, el 7 Oct 00, a las 11:40, dhkc dijo: > In response to the posting below by the editor of left.ru, we would > say this: as a whole (and there are exceptions), the Western Left does > not completely reject the mentality, the false con

Galtieri posters!!!!!!!!!! (was Re: [L-I] Re: reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia)

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Re: reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia, el 3 Oct 00, a las 15:26, Macdonald Stainsby dijo: > > No doubt you would have simply called for the Argentine working > > class to capitulate to their bourgeoisie and embrace the regime in an unholy > > pact against imperialism > >

[L-I] (Fwd) Ne laissons pas le FMI et la CIA prendre le pouvoir à B

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 23:20:01 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Ne laissons pas le FMI et la CIA prendre le pouvoir à Belgrade - BCC to: Ne laissons pas le FMI et la CIA prendr

Re: [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia, el 6 Oct 00, a las 2:02, Macdonald Stainsby dijo: > Nestor dijo: > > > The brutality of the Yugoslav situation arises from many origins. > > Two of them are adamantly clear for me... > > > You missed the 3rd... the absolute apathy which the l

[L-I] (Fwd) Les liaisons dangereuses de Monsieur Kostnica - par Mich

2000-10-06 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Thu, 05 Oct 2000 23:14:03 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Les liaisons dangereuses de Monsieur Kostnica - par Michel Collon BCC to: Les liaisons dangereuses de Monsieur Kostuni

Re: [L-I] Re: Owen's unconscious and the British Fleet

2000-10-05 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Re: Owen's unconscious and the British , el 4 Oct 00, a las 15:35, Louis Proyect dijo: > >> Was this about "iconography"? Or was something more substantial > >> involved? In fact, the government of Juan Perón was one of the most > >> progressive in Latin American history i

Re: an answer (was Re: [L-I] a question)

2000-10-05 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: an answer (was Re: [L-I] a question), el 3 Oct 00, a las 12:23, A.Wosni dijo: > Nestor, I totally agree with you except onone point, which is that the > rest of us have to wait for 'the Palestinians' before we can criticize > the results of their misleadership. This is not what

Re: [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia

2000-10-05 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia, el 30 Sep 00, a las 8:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: > In a message dated 09/30/2000 6:22:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << that in the end it was only the Serbians who were actually > ready to die for the Union.

[CrashList] A few data on Argentina under the hoof of imperialists today (Spanish)

2000-10-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Encuesta de Artemio Lopez (set.00)  En el ultimo año como fueron sus ingresos: 71% empeoro 7.4% mejoro Oportunidades laborales 82%: menos oprtunidades 11%: + oprtunidades Posibilidades de pagar aportes previsionales en el futuro 80% no podra pagar aportes Brecha entre riqueza y pobreza entre el 1

Owen's unconscious and the British Fleet (was Re: [L-I] Re: reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia)

2000-10-03 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Owen Jones has sent so long a mail that I will have to skip over most of it. I am short of time, so that I will concentrate on the paragraphs he wrote on Argentina, with a display of ignorant confidence that, honestly, I would not have expected in him. This will have to wait, however, because now

Re: [L-I] Liberating Nasser's legacy

2000-10-03 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Liberating Nasser's legacy, el 2 Oct 00, a las 21:14, Mine Aysen Doyran dijo: > > > http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2000/501/nasser2.htm > > Al-Ahram Weekly On-line 28 Sep. - 4 Oct. 2000 Issue No. 501 > > Published in Cairo by AL-AHRAM established in 1875 > > Liberating Nasser'

an answer (was Re: [L-I] a question)

2000-10-02 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] a question, el 2 Oct 00, a las 22:12, Daedalus dijo: > No comrade has even alluded to the carnage of the Palestinians at the > hands of the Zionists. Is it the way a Marxist acts? Shame on you! Jon > Johns No, it is not the way a Marxist acts. But what can one say, at the vie

Re: [L-I] Moderators note

2000-09-30 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Moderators note, el 27 Sep 00, a las 16:35, Johannes Schneider dijo: > No more discussion on this issue! Stephen got his _last_ warning. Roma > locuta, causa finita! > > Johannes Schneider > Co-Moderator Leninist-International > With all my backing as a co-moderator. Alt

Re: [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia

2000-09-30 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] reply to Nestor on Yugoslavia, el 29 Sep 00, a las 18:15, Owen Jones dijo: > > Comrade Nestor, > > As you know, or should know, I have great respect for you. However, I > am in complete disagreement with your left-nationalist views which call for > the working class of the

At last something in common ;)! (Re: [L-I] Part Three: DHKC Document on Fascism)

2000-09-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Part Three: DHKC Document on Fascism, el 28 Sep 00, a las 2:24, Henry C.K. Liu dijo: > > > Stephen E Philion wrote: > > > Well Mine, cao ni made translated directly of course is, as Hnery > > wrote 'fuck your mother'. > > [...] Henry: > The expression does a macho con

Re: [L-I] Re: The Yugoslav Election

2000-09-27 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Re: The Yugoslav Election, el 26 Sep 00, a las 22:32, Owen Jones dijo: > Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED], at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who wrote on the > 26/9/2000 0:34: > > > According to people in Yugoslavia the vote situation is rather good. > > Don't believe what you read in the pape

[L-I] USA leaders: "the Amazon Basin does not belong to Brazil" (Portuguese)

2000-09-20 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Lucivanio was asking on Peru. Well, this may be interesting reading from a Brazilian point of view. A hug, --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: "Ana Paula Barroso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Wed, 20 Sep 2000

[L-I] Wall Street Journal: los globalizadores ni siquiera benefician al obrero yanqui

2000-09-12 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Adjunto interesante artículo sobre el tema, traducido de una publicación norteamericana. The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any another MIME-compliant system, you sho

[L-I] (Fwd) Rusia: capitalismo y genocidio

2000-09-12 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
La restauración del capitalismo en Rusia produce un verdadero genocidio. LA DEMOGRAFIA RUSA ANTE SU PEOR PERSPECTIVA Interfax [traducción personal de Néstor Gorojovsky] Moscú, setiembre 11. El Comité Estatal de Estadísticas de Rusia indica en un informe que la situación demográfica del país evo

[L-I] (Fwd) Financial Times: Las FARC y Chávez

2000-09-12 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
La voz del Financial Times vinculando a Chávez con las FARC. [Financial Times; traducción de Néstor Gorojovsky para uso personal] Las FARC comparten el pensamiento venezolano por Andy Webb-Vidal September 11, 2000 Según un comandante regional de las FARC no hay acuerdos entre las FARC, el prin

[L-I] What's all this??????

2000-09-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
This posting is intended to be sent to the Marxism mailing list.as well as to the L-I and Crash lists Please, Lou Pr, resend it. Dear comrades, I am leaving Buenos Aires tomorrow, and I have already unsubbed of the Marxism list for a while. As a final goodbye, I gave a reading to the list's arc

Re: [L-I] Apology to Louis Proyect

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Apology to Louis Proyect, el 7 Sep 00, a las 19:45, dhkc dijo: > We think we gave a human enough response to a recent suggestion > from Nestor Gorojovsky earlier, but then he did show some interest > in our country.  Why "but"? I was interested "because" of your response, no

[L-I] Re: Black haired young man still stubborn.

2000-09-08 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: Black haired young man still stubborn., el 7 Sep 00, a las 19:11, Andrej Grubacic dijo: > My dear friend, > please feel free to send our correspondence everywhere you like. OK. Then, I am sending copies of this to both marxism and leninist lists, even though you are an antimarx

[L-I] (Fwd) [listageografia] [Fwd: Sarney é contra uso de arma quími

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Interesting. Brazilian government openly opposes American intervention in Colombia through the Brazilian Minister of Environment. Today, in the daily newspaper _Clarín_ of Buenos Aires, Tad Szulc warns that the United States will get enmeshed in a new Viet Nam if they step into Colombia. Things

[L-I] (Portuguese) Landless peasant leaders murdered Thursday 31st Aug, 2000 in Brazil

2000-09-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
No further comments. --- Forwarded message follows --- To: "Vitor Wagner Neto de Oliveira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "geolista" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Pazera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Rosemeire Aparecida de Almeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent:

Re: [L-I] DHKC response to Holberg and Jones

2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] DHKC response to Holberg and Jones, el 4 Sep 00, a las 1:01, dhkc dijo: In their postings, both A. Holberg and Owen Jones make a number of statements. Since it provides an opportunity to expound DHKP-C views, here is our response to them. Both of them deny that Turkey is fasci

Re: [L-I] who are you, A Wosni?

2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] who are you, A Wosni?, el 3 Sep 00, a las 5:29, Tabe Kooistra dijo: > Who are you [EMAIL PROTECTED] (A.Wosni)? > > Tabe OK. I, as a moderator, am simply fed up. I have been silent while this small fire developed. Now I will say my first and last word. Smoke is risking to bec

Re: [L-I] Moderator's Note: re: Turkey. DHKC - Jones.y

2000-09-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Moderator's Note: re: Turkey. DHKC - Jo, el 3 Sep 00, a las 5:53, Tabe Kooistra dijo: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2000 at 05:58:56PM -0700, Macdonald Stainsby wrote: > > This kind of name calling will stop NOW, or your participation in the > list > > If this guy stays, count me out

[L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: Fw: [STOPNATO] Expelled By U.S. Military, Islander

2000-09-03 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
--- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sun, 03 Sep 2000 00:50:06 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:[Fwd: Fw: [STOPNATO] Expelled By U.S. Military, Islanders Denied Return] BCC to:  Bill Howard a écrit : --

Re: [L-I] THE IMPERIALIST WAR AGAINST THE COLOMBIAN PEOPLE / DHKCLONDON INFORMATION BUREAU

2000-09-01 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] THE IMPERIALIST WAR AGAINST THE COLOMBI, el 31 Aug 00, a las 18:21, Louis Proyect dijo: > >What does he mean by "spam"? > >Has he got any political response to our statement? > >We demand him to explain what he is trying to say. > > > >With regards, > > > >DHKC > >London I

Re: [L-I] Speaking the same language?

2000-08-31 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Speaking the same language?, el 31 Aug 00, a las 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] dijo: > I fear comrades > outside Germany got a wrong impression about reality in Germany. > > Actually there are very few immigrants who do not know enough German > to communicate. Almost any job i

Re: [L-I] Speaking the same language?

2000-08-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Speaking the same language?, el 29 Aug 00, a las 12:51, Tony Abdo dijo: > Anton, you are attributing narrow mindedness and being reactionary to > immigrants that haven't mastered learning German. Has it not > occurred to you why these immigrants might not have learned

Re: [L-I] Speaking the same language?

2000-08-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Speaking the same language?, el 29 Aug 00, a las 13:26, Anton Holberg dijo: > there > is no need to defend every sort of narrowmindedness within the > working class, and if people live in a foreign country for decades > and don't hardly speak a single sentence in that country

Re: [L-I] Cuba

2000-08-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Cuba, el 29 Aug 00, a las 14:04, A.Wosni dijo: > I just said > both ideologies are not identical and Marxists primarily deal with > class not nation. Too many mistakes for so short a sentence. To begin with, Marxism and "nationalism" are not two "ideologies". They cann

[L-I] Moderator's note

2000-08-29 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a RE: [L-I] Cuba, el 28 Aug 00, a las 15:40, Mark Jones dijo: > > Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky dijo: > > >> In the end, the result of all this is either deserved and navel- > > gazing loneliness for the Left, or tremendous defeats (such as in > >

[L-I] Re: [L-I] Re: Fw: RV: [Politica] La Desvalorización del Dinero (fwd)

2000-08-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Re: Fw: RV: [Politica] La Desvalorización d, el 28 Aug 00, a las 10:29, A.Wosni dijo: > Gonzalo Moyano schrieb: > > UD. SABE ESO DE LOS TONTOS PORQUE ES MUY POCO RESPETADO?? ES UNA > > ESPECIE DE FORMACIÓN REACTIVA?? ESTÁ ENSAYANDO SOBRE COMO DISIMULA > > SU TONTERÍA?? EN MI M

Re: [L-I] Cuba

2000-08-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Cuba, el 28 Aug 00, a las 10:30, A.Wosni dijo: > on Cuba: > > 1. while it is important to know how much popular backing the > Castro-regime still has, this in itself does not prove any > 'socislist'and/or 'workers state' character of the regime, of course. [...] > Things woul

[L-I] Argentinian foreign debt, illegitimate and illegal (part 2)

2000-08-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Other sources have now appeared for the flight of capitals. Economists at the Fundación de Investigaciones para el Desarrollo Económico (FIDE) have established that foreign companies have extracted 12 billion dollars on the sly through the following tricks (they also are not mentioned in the rulin

[L-I] Argentinian foreign debt, illegitimate and illegal (part 1)

2000-08-28 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Friends and comrades, I am forwarding a version in English of a document drafted by the Argentinian politician Juan Gabriel Labaké at request of the Foro de los Argentinos and of the Foro Argentino de la Deuda Externa, explaining the main points of the recent ruling by Judge Ballestero on the Arg

[L-I] (Fwd) [PEN-L:881] Nato preparing for another war in the Balkan

2000-08-27 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
>From Louis Proyect's Marxism list --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 15:24:21 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:[PEN-L:881] Nato prep

[L-I] Sobre la deuda externa argentina (in Spanish), part

2000-08-27 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
¿Qué es la deuda externa? Juan Gabriel Labaké  Por encargo del FORO de los ARGENTINOS y del FORO ARG. de la DEUDA EXTERNA Distribución gratuita   -   Reproducción libre  Setiem

[L-I] Sobre la deuda externa argentina (in Spanish), part 2

2000-08-27 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
1.3.- Los procedimientos bancarios con los cuales nos endeudaron El juez Ballestero, en su sentencia, menciona numerosas irregularidades (en realidad, son maniobras casi siempre delictivas) que cometieron los responsables del Banco Central y del Ministerio de Economía para contraer la deuda fuer

Re: [L-I] Re: What to do if the KLA and NATO fight (Fwd from Louis Proyect)

2000-08-27 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Re: What to do if the KLA and NATO figh, el 25 Aug 00, a las 20:03, Johannes Schneider dijo: > > Louis Proyect wrote: > > > Yes, but the July 26th movement was inspired ideologically by > > Mariategui, not Stalin. You don't even have to go to the library to > > find out wh

Re: [L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: Kursk sunk by British submarine]

2000-08-25 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: Kursk sunk by British subma, el 25 Aug 00, a las 14:44, Owen Jones dijo: > Reply to Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky, at [EMAIL PROTECTED], who > wrote on the 24/8/2000 0:20: > > > More on the Kursk. It looks like that the Russian establishment i

Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight

2000-08-25 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight, el 24 Aug 00, a las 12:47, A.Holberg dijo: > Dear Nestor, > you might not be astonished to hear that I disagree. To me it seems > that the fault of the LA-'left' in general and of the pro-Moscow PCs > especially was not to have turned

Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight (Fwd from Louis Proyect)

2000-08-25 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Date sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:10:16 -0400 To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: Louis Proyect <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight >Louis, > >I do not think one-liners like this advance the discussio

[L-I] (Fwd) Kursk sunk by NATO submarine (part 3)

2000-08-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
More on the Kursk. Again, if the below is near to true, then we are in trouble. Please comment, those who know about these naval things. --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 22:19:06 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject

[L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: Kursk sunk by British submarine]

2000-08-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
More on the Kursk. It looks like that the Russian establishment is seriously claiming that the sub was intentionally sunk by a NATO ship. Slimy road they are treading on... --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:52:33 +0200 From: d

[L-I] (Fwd) [Fwd: Kursk hit by British submarine (part2)]

2000-08-24 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
No comments. If the message below is accurate, then we are facing very very serious problems. Please an expert to cast some light! --- Forwarded message follows --- Date sent: Wed, 23 Aug 2000 16:51:49 +0200 From: democrite <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight

2000-08-23 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight, el 21 Aug 00, a las 9:21, A.Wosni dijo: > Okay, I agree with driving both out. But why not trying to drive out > the Milosevic- (and any oither Serb nationalist and hence bourgeois) > regime out at the same time. Obviously yiou agree t

RE: [L-I] Conference: Towards a politics of truth: The retrieval of Lenin

2000-08-23 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a RE: [L-I] Conference: Towards a politics of truth, el 22 Aug 00, a las 20:24, Mark Jones dijo: > Oh, come on, Johannes. This is just yet-more careerist bullshit by > that prize asshole, Salvoj Zilzek. Maybe, but I think Johannes was right in posting the announcement. At least Badi

Re: [L-I] Notes and information on Argentina (in Spanish)

2000-08-23 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Notes and information on Argentina (in , el 22 Aug 00, a las 14:08, Johannes Schneider dijo: > Nestor, > > I saw the news about anti-bolivian xenophobia in the papers here a few > weeks ago. > > Could you write something in English for L-I? > > IMHO anything related to xen

Moderator's note: on a queer query (was Re: [L-I] MODERATORS NOTE : on insults)

2000-08-23 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] MODERATORS NOTE : on list culture., el 23 Aug 00, a las 12:35, A.Wosni dijo: > That's understood, but what are 'insults'? Are political > characterizations as eg. 'liberal','centrist', > 'Stalinist','Trotzkyists' insults or is it that while they are not in > fact they can

[L-I] Notes and information on Argentina (in Spanish)

2000-08-21 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear comrades and friends, I am attaching articles and leaflets on the Argentinian situation. Those interested in further details please contact me directly. These attached files include materials on (a) the victory of Hugo Chávez in the recent elections (b) the situation of the Argentinian air

[L-I] Fallo Ballesteros

2000-08-20 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Some comrades have asked me to send the sentence of Judge Ballesteros on the Argentinian Foreign Debt, but have had problems with my mail browser and cannot find their notes. Could you please send me your requests again? Most sorry, Néstor Miguel Gorojovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] _

[L-I] "Société civile"

2000-08-18 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Re: a clip of bourgeois news on Colombi, el 17 Aug 00, a las 21:38, Louis Proyect dijo: 'civil society'. (God, I hate that term.) Yes, in English it sounds ridiculous (civil behaviour, civility, and so on), implying that there is a society that keeps good manners, etc. S

[L-I] Moderator's note on needlessly long postings

2000-08-18 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Comrades, this is a clerical posting, but please read it. I was tempted to write this after John Cattalinoto's mail on the Balkans but I decided to wait and see. I waited and saw: postings on this thread is beginning to look like an endless chain of repeatedly copied postings with some new additi

[L-I] Sentence on the Argentinian Foreign Debt (in Spanish)

2000-08-18 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Cdes., All those interested in the sentence passed by Judge Ballesteros condemning the process by which the Argentinian Foreign Debt was contracted as being essentially a swindle, please contact me personally. I have the file with me. Although it is obviously drenched with legalspeak, it also con

RE: [L-I] More on the debate on NATO's war against the Balkans

2000-08-18 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a RE: [L-I] More on the debate on NATO's war agains, el 16 Aug 00, a las 21:44, John Catalinotto dijo: > > Whatever the old complaints of the Kosovar Albanians > vis-à-vis Belgrade-whether they be legitimate or > not-it should be apparent to anyone carrying on the > traditions of Leni

RE: [L-I] More on the debate on NATO's war against the Balkans

2000-08-17 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Now, as another list member: I do fully subscribe to John's words. They are full of sense IMHO, and they also bring to our attention the fact that we must think of some alternative to deal with the Albanians in Kossovo and in Albania proper (yes, a mischievous stab at those who have fallen prey o

[L-I] SAN MARTIN: CONFERENCIA DE FERMIN CHAVEZ Y JORGE E. SPI

2000-08-17 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
EL VIERNES 18 DE AGOSTO, A LAS 20:00, EL CENTRO DE ESTUDIOS NACIONALES ARTURO JAURETCHE INVITA A ASISTIR A LA CONFERENCIA SOBRE "SAN MARTÍN, AMÉRICA LATINA Y LA GLOBALIZACIÓN: ACTUALIDAD DE SU PROYECTO POLÍTICO AMERICANO. UNIDAD SANMARTINIANA Y UNIDAD BOLIVARIANA, EL CAMINO PARA EL PRESENTE" QU

[L-I] (Fwd) Re: Moderator's note

2000-08-15 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
I have read the following, and I have some comments to do to list members, including cde. Irina who is already here with us: From: "Irina M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 1:29 PM Subject: Re: Request to mailing list Leninist-International rejected >

[L-I] Moderator's note on the Kossovo debate

2000-08-15 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
The debate between cdes. Schneider and Israel is gathering pressure by the seconds. While Israel began by a rendering of Schneider's positions that can be reasonably understood as much too sarcastic, Schneider retorts with a similar one when dismisses information by attributing it to Cetniks (BTW:

[L-I] Violence in Brazilian University (was [listageografia] Violência na UFES)

2000-08-11 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Trahison des clercs? --- Forwarded message follows --- To: "Lista de Geografia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "AGB - Vitória \(ES\)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date sent: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 08:45:24 -0300 Send reply to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subje

[L-I] Gratitude of the Partido de la Izquierda Nacional to international solidarity

2000-08-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Dear comrades and friends, Some weeks ago, the Partido de la Izquierda Nacional (PIN) to which I belong was passing through a very pressing and serious financial problem. The crisis in Argentina hit our ordinary incomes hard, and we almost suddenly faced the eventuality to lose our HQs. At the sa

Re: [L-I] (no subject)

2000-08-10 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] (no subject), el 9 Aug 00, a las 23:18, Partha Bhattacharya dijo: > Comrades > The US government has again started meddling into the > internal affairs of a democratically elected leftist > government of a state in India. Earlier in 1959 and > 1971 they did the same thing. Thi

[L-I] Re: border controls

2000-08-07 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: border controls, el 31 Jul 00, a las 11:18, Johannes Schneider dijo: > > Here in Germany the argument about preventing the 'brain-drain' is > used by conservatives (and right-wing unionist and social-democrats) > in a hypocritical way. Actually they want to restrict and police >

Re: [L-I] Uneven development within the boundaries of a country

2000-08-05 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [L-I] Uneven development within the boundarie, el 5 Aug 00, a las 5:19, Partha Bhattacharya dijo: > I would like to add another example from Indian > subcontinent. It is observed that the people from > Bengal are more liberal and leftist in their lifestyle > as compared to other

[L-I] Re: replying to Ivonaldo was Re: Hobsbawm and the Analitic History

2000-08-05 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: replying to Ivonaldo was Re: Hobsbawm and th, el 5 Aug 00, a las 14:01, mmcdon dijo: [Quoting Gary McL. first] . We are always on the side of Spartacus. We seek a > > non-capitalist modernity. We do not advocate primitive accumulation > > as a way of dealing with peasants. >

[L-I] A rowing contest: Argentineans and Japanese

2000-08-04 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
The beauties of the brave new world in a joke. For those who read Spanish. Perhaps José Pérez may do a translation. Néstor. --- Forwarded message follows --- To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Omar Miranda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:pol-cien

Re: [L-I] Argentina in 1982 (was: Re: Fiji (to Lou Paulsen))

2000-07-31 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a [L-I] Argentina in 1982 (was: Re: Fiji (to Lou Pa, el 31 Jul 00, a las 15:13, Johannes Schneider dijo: > Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote: > > > Let us put things this way: should the Argentinian "democratic" > > parties (those which are now managing

[L-I] Re: Turkey and Islamic Capitalism (with an addenda on the Balkans)

2000-07-31 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Turkey and Islamic Capitalism, el 30 Jul 00, a las 14:02, Julio Pino dijo: > >In the hope of learning more, Insha Allah, I want to say something >that > I hope stirs up debate. Don't you think that labels such as "left"and > "right", "liberal" and "conservative", "modernist"

[L-I] Re: Fiji (to Lou Paulsen)

2000-07-31 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Fiji (to Lou Paulsen), el 31 Jul 00, a las 18:25, Philip Ferguson dijo: > Lou Paulsen wrote: > > >It seems to me that EITHER you have lost your class perspective OR > >Howard, Chirac, McCain, Blair, and the entire world imperialist class > >have lost their class perspective. > > > G

[L-I] Militant union leader calls to a march against Foreign Debt in Argentina

2000-07-21 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
Lists, Here goes a translation of a press release on the call by Hugo Moyano for a march in support of the recent sentence by an Argentinian Judge against the Foreign Debt. Agencia Nova (Noticias Varias), Buenos Aires 17 de julio de 2000. NOVA 6.473  HUGO MOYANO CALLS FOR A MARCH AGAINST THE

[L-I] Re: fascism and the third world

2000-07-19 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: fascism and the third world, el 18 Jul 00, a las 12:08, Johannes Schneider dijo: > > But by the same token I think the equation imperialism = fascism makes > much sense. I think the basic theoretical error is to transfer the > application of a concept for the analysis in the cor

[L-I] Re: [Re: Forwarded from Anthony (on fascism)]

2000-07-19 Thread Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky
En relación a Re: [Re: Forwarded from Anthony (on fascism)], el 19 Jul 00, a las 0:16, Mine Aysen Doyran dijo: > > > Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote: > > > >Armenians were, in a sense, the Jews of the Caucasus. They have > > >always leant on a foreign power to gu

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