Date sent: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:10:16 -0400
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From: Louis Proyect [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight
Louis,
I do not think one-liners like this advance the discussion at
Who has ever claimed that ideological exposure from the sidelines of the class
struggle is enough? Of course the Bolsheviks did take an active and leading
part in the day to day class struggle, but they were not economists, and they
knew that consciousness was the key to a proletarian
Who has ever claimed that ideological exposure from the sidelines of the
class
struggle is enough? Of course the Bolsheviks did take an active and leading
part in the day to day class struggle, but they were not economists, and
they
knew that consciousness was the key to a proletarian
Louis Proyect:
What you call consciousness I regard as socialist ideology. In
point of fact, revolutions generally take place in advance of acceptance
of
socialist ideology by the great majority.
Louis,
I dont think that fact is contested at all.
The common misconception of
Marxists
I dont want to speculate much about the 'ifs' in history, but I doubt there
would have been an October uprising without thr previous split of Bolsheviks
and Mensheviks. By the same token I think its the tragedy of the German
revolution that the forces around Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg
Dear Nestor,
you might not be astonished to hear that I disagree. To me it seems that the
fault of the LA-'left' in general and of the pro-Moscow PCs especially was not
to have turned against national-bourgeois regimes but to have taken their
'national' character much too seriously and to have
A. Holberg:
sometimes only enemy. I'm also in favour of limited tactical alliances
with such
forces, but these have to include a political fight to warn their popular
basis
against the upcoming betrayals of their misleaders and to organize the
working
class for the anavoidable final showdown
En relación a Re: [L-I] What to do if the KLA and NATO fight,
el 21 Aug 00, a las 9:21, A.Wosni dijo:
Okay, I agree with driving both out. But why not trying to drive out
the Milosevic- (and any oither Serb nationalist and hence bourgeois)
regime out at the same time. Obviously yiou agree
Nestor Miguel Gorojovsky wrote:
What kind of a regime would take power in Yugoslavia if the "Serb
nationalist and bourgeois" Milosevic regime (your definition, I
hardly can imagine the policemen -that is, the concrete face of the
State- of a bourgeois regime cherishing Salvador Allende, as an
In a message dated 08/20/2000 7:02:11 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But I would like to ask those
on the list who keep on ignoring the difference between 'military' and
political
support: What will be your position towards the UCK if the prediction made
below
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