Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-29 Thread Sam Pawlett
Leys is a specialist in "development theory", Africa in particular. According to Sam Pawlett, he comes at things from the same angle as Robert Brenner which is to say that he is skeptical of the"development of underdevelopment" thesis--another way of saying that imperialism exists. Don't

Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-29 Thread Louis Proyect
Don't know if I'd go that far. Leys used to espouse a dependency theory see esp. his *Underdevelopment in Kenya* (1974,U of Cal.) a classic Baran-type analysis. He says "To my mind underdevelopment theory represents an immense advance, politically and intellectually, over conventional development

Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-29 Thread Louis Proyect
At 11:27 AM 1/29/01 -1000, you wrote: Lou wrote: Henwood used to argue, except they formulated it slightly differently. They said that imperialism was manifested by the refusal of Great Britain, USA et al to invest in Africa. ..., the imperialists prevented multinationals from "developing"

RE: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-29 Thread Mark Jones
Louis Proyect wrote: I stand corrected. Furthermore, as a rule of thumb whatever Sam says I agree with in advance. Unless, of course, it is related to the topic of wild life preservation. I'd like to get a wilder life myself. I'm a protected sub-species, too, according to my wife.

RE: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-29 Thread Stephen E Philion
Mark, Who was criticising Frantz Fanon? And what is wrong with saying that an argument that Doug Henwood, even if you do think he is the most evil force haunting the world today, happens to be similar to or even the same as FF's on a particular issue? What is Leninist about that? Steve

RE: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-29 Thread Mark Jones
Stephen E Philion: Mark, Who was criticising Frantz Fanon? And what is wrong with saying that an argument that Doug Henwood, even if you do think he is the most evil force haunting the world today, happens to be similar to or even the same as FF's on a particular issue? What is Leninist

RE: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-28 Thread Mark Jones
Mac, where was this published? Reference, please Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Macdonald Stainsby Sent: 28 January 2001 07:48 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [L-I] The legacy...part 1 Any comments? - Macdonald ***

Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-28 Thread Macdonald Stainsby
"reply to article in New Left Review 2, 2000" http://www.sussex.ac.uk/Users/hafa3/panitch.htm Mac, where was this published? Reference, please Mark --- Macdonald Stainsby Rad-Green List: Radical anti-capitalist environmental discussion.

RE: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-28 Thread Mark Jones
this link goes to a different article! Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Macdonald Stainsby Sent: 28 January 2001 09:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1 "reply to article in New Left Rev

RE: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-28 Thread Mark Jones
I'm glad Mac posted this Panitch artcle (presumably the intro essay to a recent Soc Register, publication detalils WOULD be welome) and I think that L-I has a raison d'etre as a site dedicated to high-level theoretical debate about the state, and how we analyse and conceptualise it within the

Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-28 Thread James Paris
Macdonald Stainsby wrote: Any comments? - Macdonald A question first: Who are Colin Leys and Leo Panitch? I am not familiar with their history (either that, or I simply cannot recall it at the moment). Comradely; James Paris, MWG-IWC http://www.marxistworker.org/us/ Workers of the World,

Re: [L-I] The legacy...part 1

2001-01-28 Thread Louis Proyect
At 04:37 AM 1/28/01 -0500, you wrote: Macdonald Stainsby wrote: Any comments? - Macdonald A question first: Who are Colin Leys and Leo Panitch? I am not familiar with their history (either that, or I simply cannot recall it at the moment). Comradely; James Paris, MWG-IWC Leo Panitch