Re: paste node as clone seems broken

2010-02-24 Thread vitalije
I have found what was causing trouble :-) Putting @bool enable_alt_ctrl_bindings = True in myLeoSettings.leo solved the problem. It is interesting that in leoSettings.leo there is no such setting. I couldn't find any thing in documentation either about it. I was lucky to find it through auto-comp

paste node as clone seems broken

2010-02-24 Thread vitalije
Hello I think that menu command Outline -> Paste node as a clone (Alt+Ctrl +V) seems that has no effect at all. It is possible to create clone and to move it around but it is not very handy when I have to move it far away. I thought that maybe I missed something in this group (maybe it was intent

Thoughts for 4.8 (blue-sky, & realistic)

2010-02-24 Thread Ville M. Vainio
Unfortunately my freetime has disappeared for a prolonged period, however, I thought I would dump the stuff I *would* do if I had some (I know this is not immensely helpful): * Plugin system cleanup (easy) - Remove the weird way leo loads plugins (forcing a reload), change it to use __import__ bu

Re: Leo 4.7.1 will fix an urgent @file-related bug

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > Yes, I did check the diffs, but as I said somewhere else, these kinds > of changes are the very essence of stupidity. It would be good > (essential) to have a tool to verify all the diffs of that rev affect > only blanks lines or comments.

Re: Leo 4.7.1 will fix an urgent @file-related bug

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > Leo 4.7.1 will indeed be needed to fix a bug that can (will) cause > data loss in the conversion of @file nodes to the new (thin-like) > sentinels. > > The following bug-tracker discusses various versions of this bug: > https://bugs.launchpa

Re: Leo 4.7.1 will fix an urgent @file-related bug

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 7:47 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > Leo 4.7.1 will indeed be needed to fix a bug that can (will) cause > data loss in the conversion of @file nodes to the new (thin-like) > sentinels. I am planning to base 4.7.1 on rev 3002 of the trunk. The alternative would be to backport

Re: Should I eliminate "leo" prefix for core files?

2010-02-24 Thread Ville M. Vainio
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM, zpcspm wrote: > On Feb 23, 11:16 pm, "Ville M. Vainio" wrote: >> The names without the prefix seem a little too generic (commands, >> plugins...). It might also break lots of code not in leo repo. > > Do you mean eventual namespace conflicts? No, I mean code dev

Re: Should I eliminate "leo" prefix for core files?

2010-02-24 Thread zpcspm
On Feb 23, 11:16 pm, "Ville M. Vainio" wrote: > The names without the prefix seem a little too generic (commands, > plugins...). It might also break lots of code not in leo repo. Do you mean eventual namespace conflicts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Gro

The failure of the @file tests (to fail)

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
The problems with @file that have just resurfaced show how hard it can be to manage complex engineering projects. I got blind-sided by this problem, despite the fact that it had been dealt with before. The problem was compounded by the fact that the unit tests for @file never failed. Looking at

Re: Second try: stupendous Aha re unit tests

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 12:17 AM, ne1uno wrote: > this sounds like what I call scaffolding. it precedes unittesting and > is the only thing that works in the initial design. The Aha is that unit tests can verify design issues as well. I don't want to make a rigid distinction between unit tests

Re: Second try: stupendous Aha re unit tests

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Matt Wilkie wrote: >> 4. I read your post, and thought, again, I really need to try these unit >> test things. > > ...and I'm thinking, I really need to *learn* what these unit test > thingies are. Being a fledging developer, barely into kindergarten, it > all sou

Re: Second try: stupendous Aha re unit tests

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 8:38 AM, tfer wrote: > Unless things have changed, it should be pointed out that Leo's unit > testing is only set up to work on Leo code, that is that code set up > with unit testing can only be tested if it is run alongside Leo, not > if it is python code written with Leo

Re: Second try: stupendous Aha re unit tests

2010-02-24 Thread tfer
Unless things have changed, it should be pointed out that Leo's unit testing is only set up to work on Leo code, that is that code set up with unit testing can only be tested if it is run alongside Leo, not if it is python code written with Leo but run outside of it. Changes would have to be made

Re: Leo 4.7.1 will fix an urgent @file-related bug

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Feb 24, 7:47 am, "Edward K. Ream" wrote: >  As I write this, I think the safe thing to do will be to withdraw Leo 4.7 > final. On second thought, this wouldn't help much: all versions of Leo 4.7 suffer the same problem, roughly speaking. Edward -- You received this message because you ar

Leo 4.7.1 will fix an urgent @file-related bug

2010-02-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
Leo 4.7.1 will indeed be needed to fix a bug that can (will) cause data loss in the conversion of @file nodes to the new (thin-like) sentinels. The following bug-tracker discusses various versions of this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/leo-editor/+bug/395432 @file nodes destroy data Stephen P. S