Re: Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread Fidel N
I must warn you when you reach level 2, you need to buy a license =( So I checked for a while and would recommend those: Vim casts: http://vimcasts.org/ Learning and memorizing shortcuts: https://www.shortcutfoo.com/app/tutorial/vim More resources here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/757921

Re: Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread Kent Tenney
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > >> vim-training mode will disable the operation of all arrow keys, [except] >> Alt-arrow keys > > Recent revs implement vim-trainer. OMG, vim-trainer is *intense*. > Here are some no

Re: Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > vim-training mode will disable the operation of all arrow keys, [except] > Alt-arrow keys Recent revs implement vim-trainer. OMG, vim-trainer is *intense*. Here are some notes: 1. vim-trainer *instantly* changed how I use vim mode. jj b

Re: Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 11:46 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor wrote: >> I don't get the point of this link. > > It's a game you play with vim keystrokes, designed to make you vim > proficient. It seemed relevant to your vim-trainer idea. Thanks. vim-trainer could be called something similar.

Re: Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 11:39:09 -0500 "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor > wrote: > > > Fidel pointed this out on IRC > > http://vim-adventures.com/ > > I don't get the point of this link. It's a game you play with vim keystrokes, designed to ma

Re: Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:56 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor wrote: > Fidel pointed this out on IRC > http://vim-adventures.com/ I don't get the point of this link. EKR -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this g

Re: Leo's Wikipedia entry

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, August 8, 2014 9:57:43 AM UTC-5, Dave Loyall wrote: > > Here are some words about Leo. > > https://hn.algolia.com/?q=leo-editor#!/all/forever/0/%22leo-editor%22 > > You'll note that folks discussing Leo on HN fall into three camps. > I don't see any really negative remarks about Leo.

Re: Live code view (like Light Box) for Leo

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:55 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Ubuntu I'm getting tracebacks at idle time when I type in the body > pane after doing the livecode-show command. Hmm. Not sure what happened :-) Things seem to be working for me pretty much as I would expect. EKR -- You received t

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread Fidel N
well ill wait till "c." completes well then try to find out the difference, but I really trust when the other thing is fixed this also will. Thanks On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:58 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor < leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote: > On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:39:42 -0500 > "Edward K.

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 09:39:42 -0500 "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Fidel N wrote: > > And when trying to complete "c.p." no autocompletion appears, and > > this error pops up in the log pane: > > Not for me. I suspect this only happens when using the Qt-base > auto-com

RE: Leo's Wikipedia entry

2014-08-08 Thread Loyall, David
Here are some words about Leo. https://hn.algolia.com/?q=leo-editor#!/all/forever/0/%22leo-editor%22 You'll note that folks discussing Leo on HN fall into three camps. (Well, can a "camp" have a population of one?) 1. It's great! 2. It looks terrible, I'm done investigating. 3. It's terrible, ex

Re: Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:36:48 -0700 (PDT) "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > One last hope appeared yesterday. I call it vim trainer mode. Fidel pointed this out on IRC http://vim-adventures.com/ Cheers -Terry -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" gr

Re: Live code view (like Light Box) for Leo

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 2:42 PM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor wrote: > Just pushed the livecode.py plugin, screenshot attached. Very cool. On Ubuntu I'm getting tracebacks at idle time when I type in the body pane after doing the livecode-show command. For example, I get the tracebacks continuou

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:06 AM, Fidel N wrote: > And when trying to complete "c.p." no autocompletion appears, and this error > pops up in the log pane: Not for me. I suspect this only happens when using the Qt-base auto-completer widget. EKR -- You received this message because you are subsc

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Fidel N wrote: > Thanks for the fix, but I think it doesnt work yet: > > Doing "c." will lead to autocompleter still completing wrong. > Options such as "p", "redraw", etc just dont appear. > "baseescanner" still appears as an option. I agree. Edward -- You rece

Aha: vim trainer mode

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
At present, I am far from loving using vim mode. I use it because I must: it's the only way to shake down subtle bugs and to get the true feel for the code. I thought that using vim (for real) for a week or so might make me more comfortable with it. Not yet. True, some aspects of vim are bec

Big Aha: per-pane vim bindings

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
At present, vim-mode's top-level key handler, vc.do_key, passes *all* keys back to Leo (k.masterKeyHandler) when focus is not in the body pane. This is way too confusing: almost all vim bindings will mysteriously appear to stop working if, say, focus is in the outline pane. This is likely the

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:39:21 -0500 "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor > wrote: > > > Phew :-} not me https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/40 > > Rev d343dde... rolls back the code. > > I'm not happy with the old code, and the autoc

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Fri, 8 Aug 2014 07:39:21 -0500 "Edward K. Ream" wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor > wrote: > > > Phew :-} not me https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/40 > > Rev d343dde... rolls back the code. > > I'm not happy with the old code, and the autoc

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread Fidel N
And when trying to complete "c.p." no autocompletion appears, and this error pops up in the log pane: exception executing command Traceback (most recent call last): File "D:\leo-editor\leo\core\leoCommands.py", line 539, in doCommand val = command(event) File "D:\leo-editor\leo\core\leoK

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread Fidel N
Thanks for the fix, but I think it doesnt work yet: Doing "c." will lead to autocompleter still completing wrong. Options such as "p", "redraw", etc just dont appear. "baseescanner" still appears as an option. On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:02

Re: Vim emulation: ready for testing!

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 6:57 AM, Steve Zatz wrote: > I may be doing something wrong but when I type a colon in normal mode > nothing is happening. When I type :q, nothing happens except the log file > prints "not ready vim_q". :q works for me in Normal mode. The comma takes me to the minibuffer,

Re: Weird autocompleter bug

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:02 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor wrote: > Phew :-} not me https://github.com/leo-editor/leo-editor/issues/40 Rev d343dde... rolls back the code. I'm not happy with the old code, and the autocompleter still doesn't seem to do a good job. For example, I expect c.frame

Re: Vim emulation: ready for testing!

2014-08-08 Thread Steve Zatz
I may be doing something wrong but when I type a colon in normal mode nothing is happening. When I type :q, nothing happens except the log file prints "not ready vim_q". Besides setting @bool vim-mode = True, do I need to do anything else? Steve On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 1:21 PM, Edward K. Ream

Re: Tipp: Avoid conflicts when leo file is in source control

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Ville M. Vainio wrote: > I think there is also a setting to NOT store expanded state in .leo files. Yes: @bool put_expansion_bits_in_leo_files = Files And (for once ;-) the setting is where one might expect it: leoSettings.leo#@settings-->Files & directories-->Le

Re: .leo v git

2014-08-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 5:36 PM, David McNab wrote: > What's been the general observation of Git and .leo files? That has not been a problem only because of this general Leo work flow: http://leoeditor.com/FAQ.html#how-should-i-use-leo-with-bzr-git-hg-svn-cvs Edward -- You received this messa

Re: Tipp: Avoid conflicts when leo file is in source control

2014-08-08 Thread Ville M. Vainio
I think there is also a setting to NOT store expanded state in .leo files. On Aug 6, 2014 8:56 PM, "Zoltan Benedek" wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know whether is documented or not this idea, but I wanted to be > sure, that is not lost. > > If your leo file is in source control management system (like