Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread Marcel Franke
john lunzer wrote: Unless i've overseen something, it only outlines structure, meaning >> functions/methods and classes, and only at import-time. >> Not loops, conditionals, comments and it does not update them after a >> change in the body, only when it reimports from the file. > > > I think

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread john lunzer
> > Hm? Languages? Woops, I meant editors. The decluttering is still mostly a manual task? Setting the bookmarks, > cloning the nodes somewhere, etc.? Yes, it is entirely manual. You find what you want through searching and isolate it. There are some convenience functions to help with

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread Marcel Franke
Terry Brown wrote: > For me, one example, editing XML, a simple DB definition. Editing the > XML using Leo's XML editing "leo2xml", not editing XML directly, which > is not something you should be doing regularly. So I want the field > I'm editing and all following fields in the table

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Tue, 22 Sep 2015 07:30:21 -0700 (PDT) Marcel Franke wrote: > > I find Leo's features to be an invaluable tool in my profession that > > I've struggled to find elsewhere. > > Which one, besides the outline? For me, one example, editing XML, a simple DB

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread john lunzer
Ideally for premier it would be aimed at any level of expertise and I would say more in competition with something like Spyder. I agree that PyCharm has very advanced features. I guess IDE has a very broad definition and everyone expects something different from an IDE, there may be people who

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread john lunzer
I guess I took your term "code-manipulation" to mean node manipulation. You're correct that Leo for the most part lacks "code-manipulation" as you've described it. Given that Leo is written in Python I think that it is natural for Leo to be aimed at being a premier IDE for Python language

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread Marcel Franke
Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > Still there would be a *long* way to go to make either vim or emacs a > Leonine environment. > Depends on how good the core is separated from the UI. A headless leo which acts as a database-system, delivers data and recives commands for working on the data could

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread Marcel Franke
john lunzer wrote: > > From my short time testing out sr-speedbar (which keeps the speedbar in > the original window) speedbar works opposite of Leo. It builds up an > outline from parsing directory tree and source code of each file. This is > immensely useful for navigation but it lacks the

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread john lunzer
The abilities that Leo offers are used largely by professionals within the Leo community. As for why these abilities are not more common outside of the Leo community I'm not convinced that it is because the demand is low. I think this is a programming paradigm that is largely unknown/untested

install versions

2015-09-22 Thread Todd Mars
Hi! I have python 2.7 and 3.4, and run 2.7 by default in windows. I was using Leo 5.0 using Python 3.4, with this: C:\Python34\pythonw.exe "C:\Program Files\Leo-5.0-final\launchLeo.py" and 'start in' folder: C:\Program Files\Leo-5.0-final\leo" Which worked Fine! Now I'd like to use this: (simply

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread Marcel Franke
Am Dienstag, 22. September 2015 12:54:49 UTC+2 schrieb john lunzer: > > Leo's stability in code manipulation is not prone to failure, it is very > deterministic. > You mean node-manipulation? Because actual code-manipulation does not seem to be a feature from Leo. Leo just copies

Re: A note to new users

2015-09-22 Thread Marcel Franke
At 22. September 2015 15:49:04 UTC+2 john lunzer wrote: Given that Leo is written in Python I think that it is natural for Leo to > be aimed at being a premier IDE for Python language programming. > So, does it compete with more with IDLE or more with Eclipse or even PyCharm? And for whom?

Re: install versions

2015-09-22 Thread Todd Mars
I fix it by running this batch file (windows) cd C:\Program Files\Leo-5.1-final C:\Python34\python.exe launchLeo.py pause I guess it's just the environment it's running in by default. Great! thanks, Todd. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups