Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-27 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 7:41 AM, lewis wrote: > *Ed - But why do want to "re-brand" the VR pane as "Leo mode"? * > > *Purely to promote Leo :)* > ​Hmm. I seem to be completely missing your idea. Perhaps you could call me . Edward --

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-26 Thread lewis
e my initial reservation about posting into ''Thought experiments' I now think I made the right choice ;) Regards Lewis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from i

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-26 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 5:37 AM, lewis wrote: > > It matters in the same way that people decide 'wow, that switch is > beautiful' > ​Fair enough. alt-0 is hardly an intuitive key binding. But why do want to "re-brand" the VR pane as "Leo mode"? The VR pane is about

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-26 Thread lewis
Hi Edward, It matters in the same way that people decide 'wow, that switch is beautiful' You experienced this when you tried Atom - Wow: superb "Welcome Guide" pane in Atom "Atom's "Welcome Guide" tab is, by far,

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-25 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 1:09 AM, lewis wrote: Can the default switch to [Leo-mode] be a button, or menu entry, in the > perfect position? :) Or for power users, via the Contextmenu plugin, > ​The answer to all these questions is, of course, "yes". What I fail to

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-25 Thread lewis
As I promised Terry, a re-post for clarity *Reason for suggesting 'LEO-mode'* There have been numerous references to the Rendered Pane/s over the course of many recent discussions. A few examples: - Integrated view - EP - viewrendered pane, VR - Unified views But to be honest they all

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-24 Thread xgid
I really like the path this is taking: the most power is in the simplest way! The only thing that does not fit in with my current view is this one: ​​ > > 2. A new directive, say *@rendertree* would tell VR to render the node > and its subtree. This makes visible and explicit what would

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, March 24, 2017 at 6:36:15 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: Leo will soon have commands that make it easy to show/hide...everything > except the VR pane. > Only one new command is needed. See #446: add vr-toggle-full-screen .

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
​​ On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: > ​ ​​ Leo will soon have commands that make it easy to show/hide the body pane or everything except the VR pane. ​Consideration of hidden relationships continues to clarify matters. In particular, the VR pane

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 8:10 AM, 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor < leo-editor@googlegroups.com> wrote: > I'm not sure if I understood Lewis's post or not. ​Neither do I. ​ > Different solutions, but no reason to think there's one best solution. > ​The questions I am interested in. First,

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-24 Thread 'Terry Brown' via leo-editor
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 06:36:13 -0500 "Edward K. Ream" wrote: I'm not sure if I understood Lewis's post or not. I wonder if it was a humorous way of pointing out that Leo already has solutions to most of the actual problems / workflows that these other tools address. Different

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
​​ ​​ On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Edward K. Ream wrote: The recent discussions about UI issues should focus on what we want, not > how that will happen. > > You might think that a piece of paper is our most important design tool > when thinking about UI's. But the

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 5:13 PM, lewis wrote: > Has there been any thoughts given to promoting Leo's great new feature? > May I suggest a simple menu/button/toggle called `'*LEO mode*'` and use > it for switching into what were being referred to as LEP's but now EP's >

Re: Thought experiments

2017-03-23 Thread lewis
Has there been any thoughts given to promoting Leo's great new feature? May I suggest a simple menu/button/toggle called `'*LEO mode*'` and use it for switching into what were being referred to as LEP's but now EP's The goal being to promote 'LEO mode' as a key feature of Leo, building on the

Thought experiments

2017-03-23 Thread Edward K. Ream
The goal of this post is to surprise, not summarize. The advantage of thought experiments is that they us devs from our usual (justified) obsessions with how things work. The recent discussions about UI issues should focus on what we want, not how that will happen. You might think