Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-15 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 2:45 PM Brad wrote: This is very interesting work. > Thank you. > As you probably know, the Python core developers are a bit curmudgeonly > when it comes to suggestions that haven't come from themselves. > Hehe. I have some experience with that :-) Be aware that the

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-15 Thread Brad
Edward, This is very interesting work. As you probably know, the Python core developers are a bit curmudgeonly when it comes to suggestions that haven't come from themselves. Be aware that the responses could focus exclusively on all of the potential problems, with the inevitable: "Why

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-15 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tuesday, January 14, 2020 at 3:00:44 PM UTC-5, Terry Brown wrote: I wonder if a couple of demos would help > I'd like to thank you, Brian and Matt for your comments. Those comments have helped me not to make a fool of myself straightaway :-) Something shocking has just happened. I'll

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 8:00 PM Matt Wilkie wrote: > you've worked incredibly hard to this point, and it must be really exciting/enticing to be near a point of release and of shouting "hear ye, hear ye" loud enough to attract attention, but don't make noise just yet! I agree that more work is

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
> Thanks for this suggestion. Imo, the demo is the TOG class compared with >> similar code in asttokens, fstringify and black. The differences are >> striking. >> > > This puts the burden on all the readers to go look at the two versions of > fstringify (and other) code and be able to figure out

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-14 Thread Matt Wilkie
> > Here is the first draft of a reply to Python issue #7 > . This long-dormant issue discusses > possible improvements to python tools. > > I would appreciate it if you would read the thread in detail, and let me > know if the following reply seems on

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-14 Thread Brian Theado
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 4:05 PM Edward K. Ream wrote: > On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:00 PM Terry Brown wrote: > >> I wonder if a couple of demos would help, >> > > Thanks for this suggestion. Imo, the demo is the TOG class compared with > similar code in asttokens, fstringify and black. The

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tue, Jan 14, 2020 at 3:00 PM Terry Brown wrote: > I wonder if a couple of demos would help, > Thanks for this suggestion. Imo, the demo is the TOG class compared with similar code in asttokens, fstringify and black. The differences are striking. Edward -- You received this message

Re: Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-14 Thread Terry Brown
I wonder if a couple of demos would help, "see how much better this is" rather than "ask me about how much better this is". Maybe a comparison like: https://gist.github.com/kennethreitz/973705 which compares `urllib2` to `requests` code to do the same thing. And perhaps some context like "I want

Discuss: a proposed answer to python issue #33337

2020-01-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
Here is the first draft of a reply to Python issue #7 . This long-dormant issue discusses possible improvements to python tools. I would appreciate it if you would read the thread in detail, and let me know if the following reply seems on topic and