Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-24 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tuesday, April 23, 2019 at 11:37:49 AM UTC-5, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > > On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 9:53 AM Joe Orr wrote: > >> Xavier, >> >> I'm not familiar with the Leo code so I don't know what a uA is :-) >> > > A uA is a user attribute: which is basically JSON attached to a node. >

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-23 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Apr 20, 2019 at 9:53 AM Joe Orr wrote: > Xavier, > > I'm not familiar with the Leo code so I don't know what a uA is :-) > A uA is a user attribute: which is basically JSON attached to a node. Edward -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-20 Thread Joe Orr
Xavier, I'm not familiar with the Leo code so I don't know what a uA is :-) The way LeoVue does it, it reads the XML and converts to a couple of Javascript objects. One object for the outline, and an object for the text items. When LeoVue loads a file, it checks each text item for tags and

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-19 Thread Xavier G. Domingo (xgid)
On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 10:40:19 PM UTC-3, Joe Orr wrote: > > > Also realized I need to add tag buttons (like in Jira), probably can knock > that out soon. > > [tag 1] [tag 2] > > click on tag button filters for that tag. > Great Joe! That would fullfill yet another of my most awaited

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-17 Thread Joe Orr
Xavier, Glad you find them helpful! I realized I need to update this page: https://kaleguy.github.io/leovue/#/t/22/ which has a list of directives added to LeoVue. Also realized I need to add tag buttons (like in Jira), probably can knock that out soon. [tag 1] [tag 2] click on tag button

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-15 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 8:39 PM Xavier G. Domingo (xgid) < xgdomi...@gmail.com> wrote: Joe, ... your @t directive is a brilliant solution to one of my most > awaited features for Leo (which I tried to explain at issue #414 >

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread Xavier G. Domingo (xgid)
On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 12:41:50 PM UTC-3, Joe Orr wrote: > > > 1. There is a lot of noise. For example, the placement of a node and the > length and shape of a string has no meaning. In a tree interface child > items form a list. > 2. There isn't any way to treat the nodes as data,

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 8:25 AM vili wrote: On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 2:48:02 PM UTC+2, Edward K. Ream wrote: >> >> >> Similarly, pairs of real numbers become complex numbers, with properties >> very different from reals. >> > > This is in fact quite an exact analogy: Leo's structure is

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread vili
On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 2:48:02 PM UTC+2, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > Similarly, pairs of real numbers become complex numbers, with properties > very different from reals. > This is in fact quite an exact analogy: Leo's structure is capable of boiling down any COMPLEX real world "mess" to

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 5:20 AM vili wrote: >>>Edward: The lattices I see on this page, and others, could be ordered from top to bottom. That is, they would be a DAG if we add arrows pointing down the lattice as rendered. Is this true in general? > Of course, that was my point! The nodes, which

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread vili
On Sunday, April 14, 2019 at 11:39:03 AM UTC+2, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > Thanks. That's what I usually do. I just wanted to know if there were > others you particularly recommend. > No, I don't want you to lose to much time on this. The mathematics is much, much richer than people in FCA

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sun, Apr 14, 2019 at 3:51 AM vili wrote: > Edward, how do you define "good links"? > > If you googled "Formal concept analysis", the first hit is quite > informative Wikipedia entry > . Above it are > Scholarly articles, and the first one

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread vili
Edward, how do you define "good links"? If you googled "Formal concept analysis", the first hit is quite informative Wikipedia entry . Above it are Scholarly articles, and the first one is "Formal concept analysis: mathematical

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-14 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 7:47:58 PM UTC-5, Chris George wrote: > > Sorry. The presentation, while marginally helpful, was the wrong link. > > http://www.upriss.org.uk/fca/fca.html Thanks for the link. The lattices I see on this page, and others, could be ordered from top to bottom.

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-13 Thread Chris George
Sorry. The presentation, while marginally helpful, was the wrong link. http://www.upriss.org.uk/fca/fca.html Chris On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 5:17 PM Chris George wrote: > > https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/events/ecmlpkdd/pdf/stumme_2.pdf > > https://github.com/xflr6/concepts > > Chris > > On Sat, Apr

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-13 Thread Chris George
https://www.cs.helsinki.fi/events/ecmlpkdd/pdf/stumme_2.pdf https://github.com/xflr6/concepts Chris On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 4:48 PM Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 5:28:09 PM UTC-5, vili wrote: > >> For me, Leo is superb due to correct mathematical structure and of

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-13 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Saturday, April 13, 2019 at 5:28:09 PM UTC-5, vili wrote: For me, Leo is superb due to correct mathematical structure and of course > due to EKR and community who take care of all the improvements, and also > "Leo never crushes"... > Did you mean, "Leo never crashes"? Hehe. You might like

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-13 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 10:41 AM Joe Orr wrote: > Thanks for links. I had a look at Jerry's Brain, and I like the program even less... Hehe. I'm not interested in opinion wars, so let's focus *only* on how Leo could be improved. See the post script for non issues. Imo, there are two main

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-13 Thread vili
I'm not a programmer, but have many interests. That's why I'm a heavy user of PIMs. I have been using TheBrain software more than 15 years ago but ditched it in about a year, and returned to Leo despite many installation issues. TheBrain software may look fancy at first sight, with great

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-04-13 Thread Joe Orr
> > > I've been using outliners as PIMs ever since Dave Winer invented ThinkTank > at the beginning of > the 80s, in between More, Agenda, Ecco, Freemind, MindMapper, and others, > and then TheBrain for more than a decade now. As a PIM,

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-08 Thread rengel
@Matt > > > Well if we're going to talk about expanding languages proficiencies, I'll > take the opportunity to lob one onto the court (pun intended) that's been > on my list for awhile: Racket . > > There might be a slight misunderstanding here. I'm not suggesting to

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-08 Thread Matt Wilkie
> - It's time to expand my programming horizons with stuff like prolog and >> haskell. >> >> Haskell is said to be more 'academic'. Maybe you should have a look at > Erlang instead. Erlang has grown out of Prolog. There is a nice wrapper > language for Erlang: Elixir

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-08 Thread Steve Litt
On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 08:34:04 -0800 (PST) john lunzer wrote: > I've read that Lua has only one > data structure, Tables , the rest > you implement yourself. IMHO Lua is by far the best language I've ever used. And yes: Tables and Metatables are the only complex

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-08 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Mon, Jan 7, 2019 at 11:02 PM rengel wrote: > Haskell is said to be more 'academic'. Maybe you should have a look at Erlang instead. Erlang has grown out of Prolog. There is a nice wrapper language for Erlang: Elixir . Thanks for the link. I've bookmarked it.

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-07 Thread rengel
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 4:32:43 PM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > > - It's time to expand my programming horizons with stuff like prolog and > haskell. > > Haskell is said to be more 'academic'. Maybe you should have a look at Erlang instead. Erlang has grown out of Prolog. There is a

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-07 Thread ne1uno
can I suggest https://www.red-lang.org code is data/data is code. code style agnostic an open-source fork of rebol.org with some forth and logo roots. interesting funding approach, tokenomics. under 2 meg executable cross platform build no additional tools! 2019 is going to be a very big year,

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-07 Thread john lunzer
Recently I (foolishly?) implemented a fairly complex workflow management software entirely in `bash`. Often seen advice on stackoverflow regarding bash is many variations of: "bash lacks this/that/other, don't use it for serious/medium/large projects! Don't even think about it!". I was

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-07 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 4:32:43 PM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: I am most interested in grand challenges. > Some intermediate challenges: - Applied type checking: support for rope (refactoring) and better code completion (jedi, etc.). - It's time to expand my programming horizons with

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-06 Thread Brad
TheBrain looks very interesting, but to get the file attachment feature requires purchase of a Pro License, which is currently $219 and does not include upgrades or the cloud service. This may be a small cost relative to the gain in productivity, but being at the mercy of a vendor who can

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-04 Thread Chris George
The Brain, unfortunately, doesn't run on Linux. Luckily there is Trillium Notes. It is interesting in that it supports clones offline on Linux which where the three criteria that initially drove me to Leo. https://github.com/zadam/trilium Chris On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 6:44:17 AM UTC-8,

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 5:57:58 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: > Let's continue to focus on extending Leo, making sure that Leo's python API remains. I didn't mean to imply that the API actually has to be written in Python ;-) What matters is Leo's DOM, and a way to access it. Edward

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-04 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 7:49 PM Joe Orr wrote: > Hmm... yet another mind mapper. Not impressed. > I'm not sure why you say this. TheBrain is considerably more intuitive than Leo. Happily, we don't have to worry about this question. Let's continue to focus on extending Leo, making sure that

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-03 Thread rengel
On Friday, January 4, 2019 at 2:49:44 AM UTC+1, Joe Orr wrote: > > Hmm... yet another mind mapper. Not impressed. > > I don't need another hairball to deal with. Leo forces me to put things in > order, but allows multiple orders. > > Ignore to your own detriment! I've been using outliners as

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-03 Thread Joe Orr
Hmm... yet another mind mapper. Not impressed. I don't need another hairball to deal with. Leo forces me to put things in order, but allows multiple orders. Joe On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 4:46:31 AM UTC-5, rengel wrote: > > - A breakthrough in visualization and simplicity. ... >> > > For

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-02 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 10:17:30 AM UTC-6, Edward K. Ream wrote: > > On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:46:31 AM UTC-6, rengel wrote: > >> [TheBrain is a] breakthrough in visualization and simplicity. > I agree. This is great software. There has been considerable discussion over the

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-02 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Monday, December 31, 2018 at 7:23:43 PM UTC-6, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote: > > For me a grand challenge would be using Leo for live coding and > interactive documentation. > This appeals to me as well. Presumably, live coding would have to be based on python's reload statement

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-01 Thread Edward K. Ream
On Tuesday, January 1, 2019 at 3:46:31 AM UTC-6, rengel wrote: - A breakthrough in visualization and simplicity. ... >> > > For inspiration, have a look at https://www.thebrain.com/. > I agree. This is great software. The tutorials are excellent. The "sideways" links are intriguing. I'm not

Re: Leo in 2019

2019-01-01 Thread rengel
> > - A breakthrough in visualization and simplicity. ... > For inspiration, have a look at https://www.thebrain.com/. Happy new year! Reinhard -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "leo-editor" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop

Re: Leo in 2019

2018-12-31 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas
For me a grand challenge would be using Leo for live coding and interactive documentation. I would like to have that, no matter if Leo is embedded in Pyzo, Spyder, talk with IPython/Jupyter or in other way... I don't know if there is enough interest in this community for that (je, je, note the

Leo in 2019

2018-12-31 Thread Edward K. Ream
I am most interested in grand challenges. The big ones that comes to mind: - A breakthrough in visualization and simplicity. Programming, even for Leo's devs, is too hard. Classes help, but not enough. - #588 : Better support for tags.