On 31/01/12 14:37, Gerard Beekmans wrote:
>
> If the LFS IRC channels are to continue a new home will need to be found
> for them. I'd like the current channel admins to give this some thought.
> Let me know if you have any suggestions you would like to see implemented.
Freenode seems to be where
nteresting reading though - it's a great way to learn about apps; by
reading others implementation experiences.
Cheers
Al
(Alan Lord)
LFS ID: 216 :-)
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J. Greenlees wrote:
>>
>> One could always use Eclipse with the subclipse plugin. Works a treat
>> for me.
>>
>> Al
>>
>>
> ~shudder~
> last time I installed support for Java [ Sun's jre-1.6 ] I physically
> noticed an increase in time for loading any application, even non Java apps.
> and ecl
J. Greenlees wrote:
> Gerard Beekmans wrote:
>> Rather than re-invent the wheel, would a program like BlueFish be a
>> possible candidate? I haven't used this program in over half a decade
>> but I hear it supports XML. It may be a possible alternative to at least
>> look into before deciding on
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Gerard Beekmans wrote:
>
>> Take a look at http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/wiki/LFSFuture
>
> In some cases, the changes proposed only require general agreement of what to
> do
> and the accomplishment of the task would be relatively easy. In others, the
> changes wo
Here's a few further comments "for the record".
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
>
> 2. Package management and automation
>
> This is one of two difficult areas to address. How to present PM and how to
> integrate it into the book will take a lot of time to reach consensus on the
> approach to take.
Randy McMurchy wrote:
>
> Thoughts from others?
>
And there's me thinking you were just playing with your chopper...
That sounds great - I'd be really interested in seeing some of the meat.
It seemed that the great enthusiasm we had here a few weeks ago for a
LFS-ng had died almost as fast a
Ioan Ionita wrote:
> FUD. No examples. What issues? What applications? of those, how many
> are closed-source? In my experience, Flash works flawlessly with
> nspluginwrapper, so no need for 32-bit firefox. Anything else
> problematic? Skype?
Not FUD - This isn't some kind of OOXML war. I'm just
Phillip Huang wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I want to build LFS on my new 64bit platform(Intel EM64T), and I googled
> CLFS,
> while according to another link: http://lwn.net/Articles/243695/
>
I hope this isn't teaching you to suck eggs, but my experience with
various 64bit versions of Linux is
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> Please reply to this message (please, limit this to the lfs-dev list
> only) and mark with "X" the items that apply. If the answer is not the
> same on your different Linux systems, write numbers of systems to
> which each answer applies instead of a simple "X" mark.
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
> 2008/3/3, Alan Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> * PM (This is very a technical issue and an emotive one, probably one of
>> the most important too as it may affect everything that follows in LFS-NG)
>
> I am very surprised the nobody
Randy McMurchy wrote:
Positive support for Jeremy...
>
> If you mean that, then you won't go. Plain and simple.
>
+1. Well said Randy.
I also do not know who Richard meant, but I didn't take it to be about
Jeremy either.
Now, forwards please...
We have had many great comments and suggestion
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
... Lots of stuff about George's crazy email(s).
Jeremy,
I really don't know what George is on. I didn't plan to respond to his
mail at all. I don't think it deserves any more bandwidth to be frank.
Ignore it.
Let's just move on - or get back - to discussing the way forw
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
>> Merging the projects is a good idea, but I think, for the sake of
>> customization and flexibility, it will still be good to break down LFS
>> into 'modules' as Alan Lord suggested.
>
> I'm having a problem
DJ Lucas wrote:
>
> OK, so a more pronounced idea has been expressed, and I do like where
> it's going. Now where to start? Proposals to solidify those ideas?
>
> But I think this should have waited...one thing at a time here. I'm
> kind of thinking that it's easiest to start from the packa
Gerard Beekmans wrote:
>
> Think outside the current HTML box for a minute. Not for technical
> reasons but convenience. I've been wondering for a while if there's a
> case to be made for seeing installation output and the book's
> (replacement) text in the same window. I can see this be a nic
WOW!
where have all these people come from? Jeremy asks about the LiveCD and
suddenly we have more posts to these mail lists in two days than in the
last 3 months!
I have been thinking about this since the "Happy Birthday LFS" post from
Gerard a few days ago. Since then, Jeremy's quest has cer
Gerard Beekmans wrote:
> That makes LFS nine years old this month. It still boggles my mind some
> days that LFS grew into what it has.
>
> Ciao!
>
> Gerard
Hi Gerard,
For me, this has been one of the most important Open Source projects
ever. It got me interested and excited, and taught me
Can I just throw in my opinion on this subject?
I read the ticket and this subject in general has come up on many
occasions before...
As a long time user of LFS/BLFS I would really LOVE to have a
"management" tool for my systems that allowed me to update/upgrade and,
probably most importantly,
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
> I ran a modified version on quantum:
>
> find {,/usr}/{,s}bin -type f -exec sh -c "file {} | grep text | \
> grep -viq perl && grep tempfile {} /dev/null | cut -d: -f1 | uniq " \;
>
> and got:
>
> /sbin/generate-modprobe.conf
> /usr/bin/updatedb
> /usr/bin/tempfile
> /usr/
TheOldFellow wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:50:02 +0100
> Alan Lord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> TheOldFellow wrote:
>> > Konnichiwa,
>>> The archive is up now. Thanks for this, Jeremy.
>>>
>>> R.
>>>
>> Arragato!
>
TheOldFellow wrote:
> Konnichiwa,
>
> The archive is up now. Thanks for this, Jeremy.
>
> R.
>
Arragato!
Alan
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Luca wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I'm thinking about writing a Hint to build a XEN-Lfs (when I'll be back)
> since, at least, there's one user who asked me how to build it.
> So I've got a couple of questions:
> 1) Is LFS-6.3 going to be released sometime during next two weeks and,
> if not, could I use
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 02:56:45PM +0100, Alan Lord wrote:
>> Perhaps therefore, making the LFS PM friendly and then having a separate
>> project which would develop and provide on-going maintenance tools would
>> be a way to look at this... I
Randy McMurchy wrote:
> Jeremy Huntwork wrote these words on 08/15/07 07:20 CST:
>
>> I would love to see some sort of proper support for PM go into LFS, but
>> that all depends on the community...
>
> I'll go on record as -1.
>
> I feel we should mention it, provide links to the various altern
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> Hello,
Hello
> Essentially, the LiveCD is a distribution. But it is a distribution
> without something that nearly all others have: package management. Up to
> now, there hasn't really been a need. But, if the CD incorporated PM at
> its very heart, developers could
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I'm trying to decide how best to alter the x86_64 branch. If we adopt
> the basic principles from DIY-Linux, it would mean that as far as build
> instructions go, we only have to add 3 things:
> Even with all the above, it seems much simpler than try
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Hey All,
Would anyone mind if I helped out a bit with the development here again?
If not, I would require svn access. If so, well, fair enough. :)
Can't keep away, eh?
Any help is appreciated. You are good to go.
-- Bruce
It's good to see you b
Chris Staub wrote:
As I recently mentioned in a reply to the lfs-support list, I believe
package users is really more trouble than its worth. The paragraph
describing it, in the "Package Management" page, should be removed from
the book.
Note: A similar warning should be added to the ALFS we
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Give them the basics, show them how to extend, warn about possible
pitfalls and provide an example. Doing this we're not leaving them with
a half-baked system, as some have said already - we're teaching them how
to complete the system themselves which is what LFS has alw
Uli Fahrenberg wrote:
Archaic, Apr 7, 13:30 -0600:
However, this sort of information seems most useful to developers and
the more highly advanced readers.
it is sort of like an index of knowledge gained and applicable to
development, but not really applicable to following the book to
produc
Hi all,
I just wanted to give you an update on my build success (or lack of)
with the above apps. (Please see earlier threads for details of failures
and fixes)
My host is a very recent LFS (20060203 or similar).
Xorg-7.0 was built successfully according to DJ's instructions.
Firefox-1.5 was
Bruce Dubbs wrote:
They come form the nas package.
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/cvs/multimedia/nas.html
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Thanks Bruce, but I thought by adding --without-nas I wouldn't need
them? Perhaps they are a dependency anyway...
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I know - posting to my own message but...
Just d/l the OOo linux-intel-x86 package and it's all in bloody RPMS!!!
Aghh
Oh well looks like I will be building from source somehow - now where
did I put audiolib.h...
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FAQ:
Alan Lord wrote:
Alan, sorry for not getting to this sooner in BLFS, life has once
again stepped in the way. :-/ Unfortunately, I don't see it any
time in the next couple of weeks unless another editor can grab it.
If it wouldn't be too much trouble, when the build completes, woul
Jürg Billeter wrote:
On Mit, 2006-02-08 at 20:58 +, Alan Lord wrote:
In the Perl script set_soenv the offending line is:
ToFile( "MOZ_NSPR_CFLAGS", "@MOZ_NSPR_CFLAGS@", "e" );
Am I being thick? Should I have only applied the nspr patch?
On first g
Jürg Billeter wrote:
> OOo doesn't strictly require imake. IIRC it's just NAS which requires
xmkmf and imake. I can certainley build OOo 2.0.1 (using
ooo-build-2.0.1) without xmkmf and imake when disabling NAS.
Thanks - that's good to know for next time round :-)
HTH,
Jürg
[1]
http://cv
Hi all,
some notes about building the above apps...
I have a nice new xorg 7.0 and Firefox 1.5 with the system NSS/NSPR
install all working fine.
When I get to OOo is where the trouble starts...
OOo needs imake :-(
To build OOo I found that one has to install (at least) these xorg
utility fil
John Miller wrote:
I noticed an extra forward slash in a few tags, could IE be having
problems with them?
"href="http://wiki.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/";>src="/lfs/chrome/site/lfs-logo.png" width="192" height="75" alt="Linux
From Scratch" />"
at end of the alt field, and in the hr tag
and s
So, if you're following this thread and you have a strong feeling that
you'd like the UTF-8 changes to be added in as the default or prefer
them to be stored in an appendix, please make your opinion known.
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Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Alan Lord wrote:
Bringing down the loopback interface...[OK]
cpio: /lib/libreadline.so.5.0: No such file or directory
cpio: /lib/libhistory.so.5.0: No such file or directory
Kernel Panic - not syncing: Attempt to kill init!
Hope this helps someone
Justin R. Knierim wrote:
I remember the discussion (I think), but the bug was more of a 'if you
have 2 cdrom drives and some other CD is in the first one and LiveCD in
the second, it would fail to find the LiveCD." Not sure if that was
fixed yet.
You are correct. I have just tried again an
Hi,
forgive me posting to this list but I use gmane and there isn't a group
for the LiveCD.
Anyway, a little while ago (November?) I reported a problem with the
liveCD (I think it was a 6.1-preSomething version) which was that it
failed to boot correctly if the CD was in /dev/hdb rather tha
Manuel Wrote:
>Hi!
>
>I'm very happy to announce that jhalfs is now able to build a full LFS
SVN
>system (or any other LFS XML sources based in current LFS SVN) in a
very
>simple way and using the actual commands found in the XML sources.
>The sources can be downloaded via
>svn co svn://svn.li
his is the
machine I now use for LFS).
And a shiny new AMD 64 3200+.
I'd be interested/happy in trying to build a 64bit version for that as
it only has M$oft on it at the mo and I've a 200Gb disk to fill.
Thanks for everyone's hard work in the LFS team - it has opened my eyes
to li
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