Berkeley DB instructions.

2008-12-14 Thread Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas
Hi, Is the following command correct in the db page, or I am missing something obvious? chown -Rv root:root /usr/share/doc/db-4.7.25 ~ Regards, Ag. -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above

Re: Berkeley DB instructions.

2008-12-14 Thread Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas
On Sun, Dec 14, at 10:10 Agathoklis D. Hatzimanikas wrote: Hi, Is the following command correct in the db page, or I am missing something obvious? chown -Rv root:root /usr/share/doc/db-4.7.25 ~ Please disregard. I am trying a new method and I've missed a step.

berkeley-db - db-2.8.1-fixes-1.patch not present

2008-04-03 Thread Jens Stroebel
Hello. While browsing the wget list generated for the LFS devel book, I noticed that http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/lfs/development/db-2.8.1-fixes-1.patch is not present... greets, jens -- [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: berkeley-db - db-2.8.1-fixes-1.patch not present

2008-04-03 Thread Jeremy Huntwork
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 03:50:00PM +0200, Jens Stroebel wrote: Hello. While browsing the wget list generated for the LFS devel book, I noticed that http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/patches/lfs/development/db-2.8.1-fixes-1.patch is not present... This is already fixed, but

Re: [LFS Trac] #2051: Berkeley-DB 4.6.19

2007-09-15 Thread LFS Trac
#2051: Berkeley-DB 4.6.19 --+- Reporter: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Owner: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Type: enhancement | Status: closed Priority: normal

[Fwd: Re: [BLFS Trac] #2233: Berkeley DB-4.5.20]

2007-02-12 Thread Randy McMurchy
Original Message Subject: Re: [BLFS Trac] #2233: Berkeley DB-4.5.20 Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 00:00:20 - From: BLFS Trac [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: blfs-book@linuxfromscratch.org To: blfs-book@linuxfromscratch.org References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #2233: Berkeley DB-4.5.20

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-08 Thread Matthew Burgess
Randy McMurchy wrote: Again, not that it really matters, as the change is probably a good thing (I cannot say for sure if it is or is not, as there is nothing there that directly benefits me), but it was sort of an unusual way to incorporate a major change into the book. Well, I'll hold my

Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Hi all, The new database package in the LFS SVN book is referenced as the DB package. This is incorrect and should be fixed. The package is known as, and is referenced by its maintainers as Berkeley DB. And, because this package will also have to stay in the BLFS book, and is referenced

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
it. Not that it is bad, mind you, but for those that sort of just skim over i18n and UTF8 threads, it may have come as a surprise. Anyway, man-db and Berkeley DB are required for UTF-8 compatibility. Apparently, the regular 'man' package doesn't work. There was a fairly comprehensive thread not too long ago about

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Richard A Downing wrote: Can someone point me to the discussion thread that decided this change of man package? I want to review the reasons to make my own decision on it. There was no discussion thread. All reasons are explained in my man-i18n.txt hint. I _really_ don't want to say Drop all

Re: Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 01/07/06 08:17 CST: The new database package in the LFS SVN book is referenced as the DB package. This is incorrect and should be fixed. Thanks, Ken, for updating the BDB package. However, there are still some references of DB: the title in section 6.27.1,

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Richard A Downing wrote: Can someone point me to the discussion thread that decided this change of man package? I want to review the reasons to make my own decision on it. http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-December/054909.html That's not the thread that decided it, but

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Richard A Downing
On Sat, 07 Jan 2006 20:09:47 +0500 Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard A Downing wrote: Can someone point me to the discussion thread that decided this change of man package? I want to review the reasons to make my own decision on it. There was no discussion thread.

Re: Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Randy McMurchy
Ken Moffat wrote these words on 01/07/06 12:56 CST: Disagree. 77.9 MiB on my first build, so yes, more than it says, but I can't get near 94 (my understanding is that we use MB as an abbreviation for MiB, I have 79804 KiB as the raw figure). Hey I was just trying to be helpful. And

Re: Berkeley DB

2006-01-07 Thread Ken Moffat
On Sat, 7 Jan 2006, Randy McMurchy wrote: Ken Moffat wrote these words on 01/07/06 12:56 CST: Disagree. 77.9 MiB on my first build, so yes, more than it says, but I can't get near 94 (my understanding is that we use MB as an abbreviation for MiB, I have 79804 KiB as the raw figure). Hey

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-27 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Archaic wrote: In order to make LFS usable in UTF-8 locales, and different man program was chosen, man-DB. That program requires a database backend. It can support GDBM or Berkeley DB. Let me play dumb here for a minute: Why? ;-) Would it be possible to do something similar to what we did

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-27 Thread Jason Gurtz
On 12/27/2005 01:50, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: snip explanation That was very thorough, thank you. While it would be nice to avoid another dependency the reality is that I usually end up with both GDBM and BDB on my systems. Yea, I know that's not really an argument... To me the most

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-27 Thread Randy McMurchy
Jason Gurtz wrote these words on 12/27/05 13:52 CST: It is worrisome about the seemingly ever-changing API, but not always upgrading to the latest BDB could help alleviate that. They don't seem to have a bad history of many security updates that would necessitate upgrading often. :)

RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Archaic
In order to make LFS usable in UTF-8 locales, and different man program was chosen, man-DB. That program requires a database backend. It can support GDBM or Berkeley DB. I'll list what I think are the pros of each. GDBM: 1) Small 2) Easier to install 3) No external dependencies BDB: 1) More

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Archaic wrote these words on 12/26/05 21:48 CST: Please comment on this thread with your choice and the reasoning for your choice. To me, it is a no-brainer. Berkeley-DB should be installed. We already perform an abortion in one LFS package so that BDB doesn't have to be installed

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Archaic
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 10:06:59PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: It can be argued that neither of the above is a valid reason to choose GDBM. What exactly is easier? cd build_unix ../dist/configure --prefix=/usr \ --enable-compat185 \ --enable-cxx make LIBSO_LIBS=-lpthread

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Randy McMurchy wrote these words on 12/26/05 22:06 CST: Archaic wrote these words on 12/26/05 21:48 CST: Please comment on this thread with your choice and the reasoning for your choice. To me, it is a no-brainer. Berkeley-DB should be installed. I must admit that I didn't lay out all

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Archaic
be a reason to absolutely discard GDBM as a choice for support of man-db. I do not agree with the It's not maintained so get rid of it philosophy and obviously neither do you, but yes, it is a concern of many, so another point for BDB. :) 2. Berkeley-DB is a moving target. Even now, with the most

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Archaic wrote these words on 12/26/05 22:20 CST: On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 10:06:59PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: It can be argued that neither of the above is a valid reason to choose GDBM. What exactly is easier? cd build_unix ../dist/configure --prefix=/usr \ --enable-compat185 \

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB? (and UTF changes)

2005-12-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Archaic wrote these words on 12/26/05 22:31 CST: The LFS Book is *NOT* producing a UTF-8 only or UTF-8 default system (ala Fedora Core). The ability to use UTF-8 is being implemented, but the choice is still on the end user. I saw *many* changes and patches that affect core LFS packages in

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB? (and UTF changes)

2005-12-26 Thread Archaic
On Mon, Dec 26, 2005 at 11:05:03PM -0600, Randy McMurchy wrote: I saw *many* changes and patches that affect core LFS packages in the UTF patch applied (for only a short while) today. Many of which looked to me as though it changed core functionality. The patches add UTF support. There are

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB? (and UTF changes)

2005-12-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: Archaic wrote these words on 12/26/05 22:31 CST: The LFS Book is *NOT* producing a UTF-8 only or UTF-8 default system (ala Fedora Core). The ability to use UTF-8 is being implemented, but the choice is still on the end user. I saw *many* changes and patches

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Tushar Teredesai
On 12/26/05, Archaic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please comment on this thread with your choice and the reasoning for your choice. I prefer gdbm coz the bdb api keeps changing with every new release. An added benefit of gdbm is the small number of required dependencies. -- Tushar Teredesai

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Archaic
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:44:02AM -0500, Tushar Teredesai wrote: I prefer gdbm coz the bdb api keeps changing with every new release. An added benefit of gdbm is the small number of required dependencies. I guess we really should find out if the man-db devs have a preference. Not all apps

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Archaic wrote: BDB: 1) More widely used as a DB backend BDB surely has many techincal advantages. But there is one problem for the hybrid of the UTF-8 and alphabetical books: Perl looks for GDBM and BDB as for optional dependencies. If we build the database library after Perl, differences

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Archaic
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 10:54:40AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: BDB surely has many techincal advantages. But there is one problem for the hybrid of the UTF-8 and alphabetical books: Perl looks for GDBM and BDB as for optional dependencies. If we build the database library after

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Archaic wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 12:44:02AM -0500, Tushar Teredesai wrote: I prefer gdbm coz the bdb api keeps changing with every new release. An added benefit of gdbm is the small number of required dependencies. I guess we really should find out if the man-db devs have a

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Archaic
On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 10:56:16AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Debian builds man-db with GDBM. The packager and the author of man-db is the same person, so you can count this as a dev's preference. There could be many reasons for his choice, one likely one could be it was easier to

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread DJ Lucas
. Agree. 2. Berkeley-DB is a moving target. Even now, with the most current version I am hesitant to put in the BLFS book because of API changes. I've only found Python to need a patch so far, but I've not tested everything. I'm speaking of BDB-4.4 16. An API change in BDB? No, can't

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
I wrote: Yet another alternative would be to leave the usual Man package in the book, configure it with +lang none (see explanation in the man-i18n hint) and import the whole Hacks section from the man-i18n hint. But I think that the instructions would contain too many ifs then (i.e.: they

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Randy McMurchy
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 12/27/05 00:15 CST: Forgot to say: if this variant is chosen, the LiveCD will continue using Man-DB, because users can't be expected to do any configuration on the LiveCD. At this point, I think a new thread should be started, one where the crux of

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

2005-12-26 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Randy McMurchy wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 12/27/05 00:15 CST: Forgot to say: if this variant is chosen, the LiveCD will continue using Man-DB, because users can't be expected to do any configuration on the LiveCD. At this point, I think a new thread should be