Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-19 Thread Gilles Espinasse
- Original Message - From: "Bruce Dubbs" To: "LFS Developers Mailinglist" Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 6:39 PM Subject: Re: klogd and System.map > linux fan wrote: > > On 2/19/10, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> My first choice right now is the

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-19 Thread Bruce Dubbs
linux fan wrote: > On 2/19/10, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> My first choice right now is the script with the unconditional -x as a >> second choice. > > It seems script effectively does unconditional -x because > it greps for Version_ which is what they removed > which triggered this whole business. Wi

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-19 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> David Jensen wrote: >>> from slackware rc.syslog >>> # '-c 3' = display level 'error' or higher messages on console >> Starting to get off topic now, but after reading the klogd manpage, this &

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-19 Thread linux fan
On 2/19/10, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > My first choice right now is the script with the unconditional -x as a > second choice. It seems script effectively does unconditional -x because it greps for Version_ which is what they removed which triggered this whole business. Does -x cause loss of informati

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > David Jensen wrote: >> Bryan Kadzban wrote: >>> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >>> >>>> To stop klogd from trying to read System.map, it requires passing -x >>>> in the command line. We can do that easily in the boot scripts. >&g

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread Bryan Kadzban
David Jensen wrote: > Bryan Kadzban wrote: >> Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> >>> To stop klogd from trying to read System.map, it requires passing -x >>> in the command line. We can do that easily in the boot scripts. >>> >> Which I would sugge

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread David Jensen
Bryan Kadzban wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > >> To stop klogd from trying to read System.map, it requires passing -x >> in the command line. We can do that easily in the boot scripts. >> > > Which I would suggest if we want to silence the warning. Given

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread Bryan Kadzban
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've noticed an irritating message when klogd starts up. It says: > > Cannot find map file. Meh. I've been skipping the System.map copy (as part of the kernel install) *forever* -- or at least ever since I moved to kernel 2.6, I believe -- and never

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread linux fan
On 2/18/10, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I saw that when I was researching last night. I don't think it is a > feature. It implies something is wrong. When something is right in > Linux/Unix, the application should stay silent. I fussed a lot over this and the warning happen in ksym.c in sysklogd sour

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
linux fan wrote: > On 2/18/10, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> My understanding is that klogd reads the symbols to translate kernel >> oops to symbols. I think I saw that the kernel is now doing that >> internally. In that case, there is no need for klogd to read System.map >>

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread linux fan
On 2/18/10, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > My understanding is that klogd reads the symbols to translate kernel > oops to symbols. I think I saw that the kernel is now doing that > internally. In that case, there is no need for klogd to read System.map > at all. That is what Linus said in

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Andrew Benton wrote: > On 18/02/10 20:57, Bruce Dubbs wrote: >> I've noticed an irritating message when klogd starts up. It says: >> >>Cannot find map file. >> >> I traced the cause of this message. System.map is a dump of the kernel >> symbol

Re: klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread Andrew Benton
On 18/02/10 20:57, Bruce Dubbs wrote: > I've noticed an irritating message when klogd starts up. It says: > >Cannot find map file. > > I traced the cause of this message. System.map is a dump of the kernel > symbols using nm. klogd finds the System.map, but rejects i

klogd and System.map

2010-02-18 Thread Bruce Dubbs
I've noticed an irritating message when klogd starts up. It says: Cannot find map file. I traced the cause of this message. System.map is a dump of the kernel symbols using nm. klogd finds the System.map, but rejects it because there is no symbol with the name "Version_xxx

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-07-29 Thread Greg Schafer
Greg Schafer wrote: > Indeed, but IMHO some of the Fedora rationale is questionable ie: "dead > upstream" is not quite true. That is, if you can believe the sysklogd > maintainer :-) > > http://lists.infodrom.org/infodrom-sysklogd/2007/0011.html A new release has been made after 6 years. Shock!

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-07-06 Thread Greg Schafer
Dan Nicholson wrote: > I just read that Fedora has decided to take the plunge and replace > sysklogd as their default syslog. > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FWN/Issue94#head-f55df1c4e39b27afc053b435a85088e5aec25a84 > > Anyway, they've decided to use rsyslog since it maintains a compatible > i

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-07-05 Thread Dan Nicholson
On 5/22/07, Greg Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Bruce Dubbs wrote: > > > Just to add to this, anduin has been running with syslog-ng from the > > beginning and it has never had a problem. > > Here's a relevant post: > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-February/050643.html >

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-06-01 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Wednesday 23 May 2007 01:36:02 Greg Schafer wrote: > Here's a relevant post: > > http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-February/050643.html But how much of that is still valid? With the latest 2.x of syslog-ng, is it still asynchronous? Based my experiences and others, I don't th

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Greg Schafer
Bruce Dubbs wrote: > Just to add to this, anduin has been running with syslog-ng from the > beginning and it has never had a problem. Here's a relevant post: http://linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/lfs-dev/2005-February/050643.html But AFAICT the sysklogd maintainership hasn't really improved.. N

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Bruce Dubbs
Justin R. Knierim wrote: > Robert Connolly wrote: >> Syslog-ng was in the LFS book for a short time. It's terrible under load, >> servers can't use it. > I haven't had problems with either packages myself, syslog-ng was > perfectly fine on my dedicateds. Actually at work, we have 2000 shared > ho

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Justin R. Knierim
Robert Connolly wrote: > Syslog-ng was in the LFS book for a short time. It's terrible under load, > servers can't use it. I haven't had problems with either packages myself, syslog-ng was perfectly fine on my dedicateds. Actually at work, we have 2000 shared hosting servers hosting 500,000 domai

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Alexander E. Patrakov
Robert Connolly wrote: > Syslog-ng was in the LFS book for a short time. It's terrible under load, > servers can't use it. Sorry - dsa.physics.usu.ru (an old Pentium-166) logs every SYN and FIN packet going through its NAT with iptables and syslog-ng, and works just fine for two full classroom

Re: time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Robert Connolly
On Tuesday May 22 2007 02:24:44 pm Douglas J Hunley wrote: > On Monday 21 May 2007 16:08:02 Robert Connolly wrote: > > Changes to linux-2.6's printk, and possible other things, have broken > > klogd's EIP translation. There are no patches available to fix klogd. > >

time for syslog-ng? (was Re: klogd)

2007-05-22 Thread Douglas J Hunley
On Monday 21 May 2007 16:08:02 Robert Connolly wrote: > Changes to linux-2.6's printk, and possible other things, have broken > klogd's EIP translation. There are no patches available to fix klogd. Which in my mind just says it's time to switch to syslog-ng and dump plain

Re: klogd

2007-05-21 Thread Robert Connolly
Changes to linux-2.6's printk, and possible other things, have broken klogd's EIP translation. There are no patches available to fix klogd. See: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=126616 and Suse bug #40651 Adding the '-x' option to klogd's boot script wil

klogd

2007-05-21 Thread Robert Connolly
With LFS sysklogd, linux-2.6 with loadable module support, do any of you get this from /var/log/sys.log: kernel: No module symbols loaded - kernel modules not enabled. ? robert pgpRYZ6HvcLkc.pgp Description: PGP signature -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://ww