Re: Users reentering chroot and continuing

://bugs.linuxfromscratch.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1649 -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

vim-6.4 documentation

a symlink so that vim still finds its tags file. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: experiences with svn-20051112

of the script: while [ $(cat /proc/*/status 2 /dev/null | grep -c -E '^Name:.udevd?$') -gt 1 ]; do sleep 1 done -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Unsupported Distro List - an open question

issues that pop up after that are LFS bugs. Only after agreeing upon such a criterium, we can list individual distros as unsupported hosts, explaining the exact failure mode in each case. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: User IDs and Group IDs

), he will end up with mismatched versions. It is not bad. IMHO, it is even educational and fool-proof to have mismatched versions, so that folks don't attempt to upgrade the headers together with the kernel. As for the udev non-mess, upgrading to 2.6.14 without patches won't help. -- Alexander E

Re: experiences with svn-20051112

device, e.g.: $ cat /sys/bus/pci/devices/\:00\:0d.0/modalias Then look at /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.alias -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Mktemp instructions - why is --with-libc used?

are unstable. Why is --with-libc needed for mktemp? Because otherwise it won't use the mkstemp() and mkdtemp() functions from glibc, and will use its own replacements for them. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

Matthew Burgess wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Matthew Burgess wrote: diff -Naur lfs-bootscripts-3.2.2.orig/Makefile lfs-bootscripts-3.2.2/Makefile --- lfs-bootscripts-3.2.2.orig/Makefile2005-05-26 20:08:09.0 + +++ lfs-bootscripts-3.2.2/Makefile2005-11-30 13

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

user0m7.044s sys 0m2.108s -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

of it (obviously ripped from the old hotplug package), but I prefer the binary version because it is shipped with udev in the extras directory. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

the run_hotplugd helper. That's a bug in gphoto2, but we just can't say use binary Debian package where this bug is fixed :) -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: udev-076 setup (was Re: Post LFS-6.1.1 plans)

need the run_hotplugd helper. That's a bug in gphoto2, but we just can't say use binary Debian package where this bug is fixed :) I was wrong. Due to our insecure /{proc,dev}/bus/usb permissions, run_hotplugd is not needed by default for gphoto2. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

UTF-8 book updated

is with Mutt segfault, upgrading to 1.5.10 solves this. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

HAL and managed /etc/fstab option

admit that my investigation is incomplete. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: HAL and managed /etc/fstab option

Randy McMurchy wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 12/10/05 01:43 CST: HAL instructions in BLFS have the following bug here (however, with HAL updated to 0.5.5.1): directories under /media leak. I.e., if I plug and unplug my USB flash drive several times, /media/usbdisk

Re: HAL and managed /etc/fstab option

non-ISO-8859-1 users who want their FAT filesystems with non-ASCII filenames to be accessible, but often forget or don't want to set CONFIG_FAT_DEFAULT_IOCHARSET and related items in their kernel config. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

libreadline soname

distros do and from the default (libreadline.so.5). Maybe we should use SHLIB_LIBS=-lncurses instead to link the ncurses library in, because of that soname change problem. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Updates of bash, readline and less

*)' The suggested solution is: cd unix sed -i.bak s/relid'/relid/ configure -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: libreadline soname

of that...just after I'd clicked send! I was in too much of a rush to try and look smart. This sed seems to work for me. sed -i 's@) -Wl,-s@) -Wl,-lncurses,-s@' support/shobj-conf Andy What's wrong with this? make SHLIB_LIBS=-lncurses And that's easier... -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

Re: Hint on installing autotools versions in parallel

the Cross-LFS book, in particular this page: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/clfs/view/cross-lfs/x86_64-64/boot/grub-build.html So the statement that autotools are useless for LFS is overly optimistic. The rest of the hint looks good. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman

Re: Alphabetical branch status report

without reading the whole source code is to run the whole build process under strace. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Updates of bash, readline and less

to these today, so I added them in. Since you've been through these packages already, I'd appreciate it if you could look at the changes and let me know if I missed anything. You forgot to change chapter03/patches.xml -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ

Re: /usr/bin/setfont

in / and remote files in /usr have matching versions, and so on). I always use nfs-root instead of /usr-on-network. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Alphabetical branch status report

the whole build process under strace. I take my words back. ICA does catch optional dependencies, but doesn't provide an explicit list of them. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above

Re: ICA

Jeremy Huntwork wrote: unexpected FAIL: /usr/bin/vim differs after stripping and processing Looks like optional dependencies (perl library?) differ after chapters 5 and 6. It would be interesting to see differences in ./configure output and in config.log. -- Alexander E. Patrakov

Re: adding 2.6.15 to trunk

. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: adding 2.6.15 to trunk

us, so we can get away with adding inotify.h to linux-libc-headers-2.6.12.0. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: status of bootscripts?

and no hotplug/udev changes occur. Is there any hope to include the UTF8-aware console script? It is fully backwards-compatible with the existing one. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~alexander/patches/console -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: adding 2.6.15 to trunk

Archaic wrote: On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 08:14:18AM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: It is not broken. Outdated but not broken. Not to beat a dead horse, because this isn't the focus of the thread, but having to unplug and replug in a USB device that is on at bootup sounds broken

Re: Linux-Libc-Headers-2.6.12.0 and inotify.h

-Headers-svn) into the headers directory? will this work? Yes, this is the only relevant difference between 2.6.12.0 and svn. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Linux-Libc-Headers-2.6.12.0 and inotify.h

to this particular file that it not used by anything in LFS. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB? (and UTF changes)

locales. But marking patches as optional would introduce too many ifs into the book. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

will pop up in farce results. So we have to ensure build dependencies for BDB early in Chapter 6 (and also make sure that it doesn't find our copy of Tcl from Chapter 5). Maybe this is in fact a non-issue. It is just a thing that has to be checked. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

a preference. Debian builds man-db with GDBM. The packager and the author of man-db is the same person, so you can count this as a dev's preference. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above

Dead keys and text input

the Linux Console page that explains how non-English people enter text. This would also cover other methods, such as layout switching and the Compose key. Please express your opinions. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

.: they will be confusing). Forgot to say: if this variant is chosen, the LiveCD will continue using Man-DB, because users can't be expected to do any configuration on the LiveCD. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

Re: RFC: GDBM or Berkeley DB?

Randy McMurchy wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote these words on 12/27/05 00:15 CST: Forgot to say: if this variant is chosen, the LiveCD will continue using Man-DB, because users can't be expected to do any configuration on the LiveCD. At this point, I think a new thread should

Resubmitting UTF-8 patch

if you really think that it is a good idea to re-brand an officially released third-party patch. Preferred headers: Submitted By: Alexander E. Patrakov Date: 2005-12-27 Initial Package Version: 1.18.1.1 Upstream Status: Rejected Origin: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/groff/groff_1.18.1.1

Re: Packages that don't work in UTF-8 locales

Archaic wrote: On Tue, Dec 27, 2005 at 06:33:57PM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Links-2.1pre17: no way to properly configure for UTF-8 based character cell display, there is no UTF-8 terminal encoding in the menu. If run on the framebuffer console, doesn't properly accept keystrokes

Re: Packages that don't work in UTF-8 locales

on the screenshot (taken in ru_RU.UTF-8 locale). Input of non-ASCII characters in the editor is impossible, even after selecting Other 8-bit encoding in the menu. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/faq.html

Re: UTF-8 Comments

Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: So (IMHO) the only valid reasons for choosing a UTF-8 based locale are: 1. RedHat compatibility at the cost of incompatibility with everyone else (including MS Windows): * Need to share files via NFS with systems that already use UTF-8 locales and can't

Re: Essential Symlinks: Explainations

. Only the libgcc_s.so.1 is needed so that glibc can dlopen that library (used in nptl). Used only in nptl testsuite :) -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman

Re: uname kernel module hack hint

instead. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [LONG] Commentary and policy text in the UTF-8 patch

in the test program. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: [LONG] Commentary and policy text in the UTF-8 patch

Archaic wrote: On Sat, Dec 31, 2005 at 06:46:30PM +0500, Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: This completely avoids running the scripts/test-installation.pl script. Would you count this as a cheat or as an acceptable solution? BTW DIY That would depend on what test-installation.pl is actually

Re: [LONG] Commentary and policy text in the UTF-8 patch

Dan Nicholson wrote: On 12/31/05, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sed -i.bak \ 's,libs -o,libs -L/usr/lib -o,' \ scripts/test-installation.pl However, there was a report that it doesn't work and needs the -R/usr/lib to be added, and probably this still doesn't

Please adjust chapter08/fstab.xml

. Please apply the attached fstab.diff file as soon as possible, so that the HAL page in BLFS has something to link to. All UTF-8 specific stuff has been commented out, please don't uncomment until the whole UTF-8 patch goes in. Thanks in advance. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL

Re: UTF-8 book is ready for merging

friends. They convert from the locale encoding (be it ru_RU.KOI8-R or ru_RU.UTF-8) to wchar_t. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ

Re: Various minor changes to the book

successfully: mkdir -pv /usr/lib/locale localedef -i de_DE -f ISO-8859-1 de_DE ... -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: Various minor changes to the book

are changing is going away completely with the UTF-8 patch. BTW, this BLFS page will be useless for UTF-8 issues with LFS packages, so the link doesn't really fit here. I will put it in chapret07/profile.xml. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11

Re: UTF-8 (not really) / IOCharSet/ CodePage

-formulated questions. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead rusfile.flp.bz2 Description: Binary data -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/blfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org

Re: UTF-8 book is ready for merging

to wide characters in all locales. If you want, I will do this for you the day after tomorrow (I am rather busy now). -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: UTF-8 book is ready for merging

Bryan Kadzban wrote: (Yes, you have to use nl_langinfo() to get a string to pass to iconv_open and if the destination is the internal representation of wchar_t, that's called mbrtowc() :) -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my

UTF-8 patch updated, please reconsider

. Not sure about the best wording. Uncomment yourself if you think it is good enough and that readers will really benefit from seeing this note. Please apply the patch, and, in the case if it is unsuitable as a whole, please don't revert parts that are actually OK. -- Alexander E. Patrakov

Re: UTF-8 patch updated, please reconsider

program will spuriously create other symlinks. Already discussed in the thread below. http://archives.linuxfromscratch.org/mail-archives/lfs-dev/2005-August/052567.html -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

instead of GDBM. Currently, the build is at Chapter 5 GCC. Sorry for the delay. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

understanding of too many non-trivial things, move too fast and break BLFS packages while moving. But I am certainly in the minority here. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

equivalents of Bug 1672, module autoloading, debugging, etc.). I do have some minor objections to the new rules, will express after the full build of UTF-8 LFS (Currently: Chapter 6 Glibc). -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

Chris Staub wrote: And a bug that comes up when you try to use a non-modular kernel. Or is this what you were talking about? :) That's different. What you are talking about is a bug in the script contributed by myself. Counts better as my bug, not upstream bug. -- Alexander E. Patrakov

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

with the kelp from Kay Sievers, the current maintainer of udev) and does this even too thoroughly :) Jim's rules do look distro-ish, but let's not oversimplify things. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address

Re: UTF-8 patch updated, please reconsider

identical binaries, shared libraries and objects in static libraries, so there is no need to worry about unsatisfied optional dependencies. I will update the UTF-8 patch soon. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

. A branch is always OK. Sorry, I don't have time to express my opinion on Jim's package today in more detail. I spent too much time on the LiveCD (currently building Xorg), Berkeley DB and the UTF-8 patch. Maybe tomorrow. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off

UTF-8 patch, this time with DB

://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~alexander/patches2/lfs_book-r7243-utf8-2.patch The rendered book is at: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/~alexander/lfs-book/ Please review. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch

Jim's Udev package (part 1)

is a separate partition, this scriptlet will just fail, and the udev_retry initscript would retry it. The script itself looks OK, but I had no chance to test it. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address

Re: More ICA

/manconfig.h.in EOF #define WEB_BROWSER exec /usr/bin/lynx #define COL /usr/bin/col #define VGRIND /usr/bin/vgrind #define GRAP /usr/bin/grap EOF The col program is a part of the Util-linux package -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail

Re: More ICA

Dan Nicholson wrote: On 1/5/06, Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The third change accounts for programs that Man-DB should be able to find at runtime, but that haven't been installed yet: cat include/manconfig.h.in EOF #define WEB_BROWSER exec /usr/bin/lynx #define COL /usr/bin

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

to http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/gregkh/gregkh-2.6/old/gregkh-all-2.6.15.patch -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ

Jim's Udev package (part 2)

hotplug removal independently. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead Submitted By: Alexander E. Patrakov Date: 2006-01-06 Initial Package Version: 079 Upstream Status: Not submitted yet, need

Re: Jim's Udev package (part 1)

. It restores ALSA volumes, or, if it looks like ALSA is not used at all, OSS volumes (specially for Archaic if he still uses the proprietary nvsound module). Things not done: 1) stable naming of OSS mixers. 2) ALSA-specific firmware loading -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL

Jim's Udev package (part 3)

hard disk) from the -mm kernel instead of the regular via82cxxx driver that creates /dev/hda. /OT 3) README.debug is useful, but contains a typo: Some are exclude by default. - excluded 4) show_event_log contains bashisms but doesn't use the #!/bin/bash interpreter line. -- Alexander E

Re: UTF-8 patch, this time with DB

Jeremy Huntwork wrote: Alexander E. Patrakov wrote: Hello, the UTF-8 patch has been updated in order to use DB instead of GDBM (this was easier than I thought). The arpd binary has been reenabled in iproute2. Description of the locale command has been corrected on the Glibc page

Re: 2.6.15 Hotplugging/Coldplugging via udev

that he sent it to the llh-announce list, otherwise I would have just sent a link to the archives like you just did :-) and I have just asked about possibly-dead LLH on LKML: http://lkml.org/lkml/2006/1/7/51 -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01

Re: Man-DB and Berkeley DB

a better fit for a UTF-8 system. I can see the thread about which db to use, but not the change to man-db from man. Personally, I have no other use for a DB and will probably stick with man. You are free to do so, but only because you use the en_US locale. -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail

Re: Jim's Udev package (part 1)

Archaic wrote: I think you might be mistaking me with someone else. I don't recall using anything called nvsound. Sorry -- Alexander E. Patrakov Don't mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the server is off until 2006-01-11 Use my GMail or linuxfromscratch address instead -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: UTF8 nitpicks

instructions for every package that installs non-English manual pages, in order to convert them to UTF-8. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Chapter 5 toolchain flaw

to libgcc_s.so.1 in Chapter 6. This smells like a common defect in LFS and DIY builds. This is not a defect. Linking is done by programs in /usr with the flags supplied by the host gcc. Changing this would mean reintroducing the LFS-5.1-from-Fedora bug. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

cold plugging

looks unsolvable. (2) is not currently supported upstream, so if we choose this, we are on our own. This leaves us with no option other than (3). Sorry for my inability to say anything else. == Darren Salt wrote: I demand that Alexander E. Patrakov may or may not have

Re: cold plugging

involved. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Man-DB

-ja.png, passwd-ja.png. Reconfiguration of Man is allowed (but still considered a bad thing) only when xterm is closed. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Man-DB

-Japanese case). -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Perl failing test 87

there BTW. A patch for the book will come shortly. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Perl failing test 87

. A patch for the book will come shortly. In fact, two patches. Choose one, I have no preference. The -fixes-1 patch builds the offending module as a part of Berkeley DB. The -fixes-2 patch applies a patch to Perl itself in order to update the bundled DB_File module. -- Alexander E. Patrakov

Re: куплю б/у автомобиль

;-) You missed nothing. They missed your old car (working or not, i.e. they want to buy it for spare parts). -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Parameter in Makefile

Filip Bartmann wrote: Why is in Makefiles for LFS books parameters -nonet? If I don't remove this parameters I can't build this books, because I have errors failed to load external entity. Have I something wrong? Yes, old version of DocBook XML DTD and stylesheets.. -- Alexander E

Re: fr_FR.UTF-8: No such file or directory

Dan McGhee spotted a typo on Glibc page in Chapter 6: localedef -i fr_FR.UTF-8 -f UTF-8 fr_FR Should be: localedef -i fr_FR -f UTF-8 fr_FR.UTF-8 Thanks for the report. I hope that editors will fix this quickly. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs

Re: куплю б/у автомобиль

Richard A Downing wrote: On Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:27:42 +0500 Alexander E. Patrakov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's in fact very strange that you couldn't render foreign spam in your old LFS. This might be either due to LANG=C (instead of en_US) or due to fonts with insufficient Unicode

Re: Cross LFS and UTF-8

, BLFS will be nowhere near ready. That is actually worse that having no UTF-8 support and clearly stating that. OTOH, if anybody wants this and will help, I will be happy to fork both books simultaneously and drop non-verified packages from my copy of BLFS. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http

ssh and UTF-8

into a system that uses a different locale, use Screen, as follows: screen Ctrl+A :encoding [encoding-on-the target]# e.g., :encoding ISO-8859-1 the local prompts will get messed up at this point, ignore this ssh tarhet.host.com -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: UTF-8

just below that, pointing to testcases and other details in the appendix. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Overcomplicated? [part 1: glibc, coreutils]

: Ä Wrong result: ä More later. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Overcomplicated? [part 2: ncurses -- diffutils]

Expected result: no output (since the files differ only in the amount of whitespace). More later. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Overcomplicated? [part 3: kbd, sysklogd]

and kernel will go tomorrow. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Man and Groff - Author Feedbacks - UTF-8 Comments

to those found in RedHat 8), so I really don't want this to be applied. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: UTF-8

and submit a combined patch. All multibyte patches will become optional (but you will have to deal with how to upgrade my system to UTF-8 capable one support questions yourself then). -- Alexander E. Patrakov Index: chapter06/coreutils.xml

Re: UTF-8

. Further patches will not be provided until a consistent approach to this problem is developed. Manuel, please help. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: UTF-8

again: There should be only one set of build instructions, and identical binaries. No optional appendix with commands. All differences between UTF-8 and non-UTF-8 installations should be in the /etc directory. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ

Overcomplicated? [part 4: kernel and bootscripts ]

plus optional unicode_start. Distros used to put unicode_start in bash profile, but, since linux-2.6.14, this doesn't work for non-root. Hence the openvt that runs the kbd_mode program as root with /dev/tty pointing to the right console. -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org

Re: Man and Groff - Author Feedbacks - UTF-8 Comments

of Man maintainer, Federico Lucifredi, to act upon this properly (subject of a separate post). -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq/ Unsubscribe: See the above information page

Re: Man 1.6 + UTF-8

-1 to UTF-8 on the fly): TRANSLATIONS 8bit:da:de:en:es:fi:fr:ga:gl:id:is:it:nb:nl:nn:no:pt:sv HARDCOPY_TRANSLATIONS da:de:en:es:fi:fr:ga:gl:id:is:it:nb:nl:nn:no:pt:sv -- Alexander E. Patrakov -- http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-dev FAQ: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/faq

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