Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-08 Thread Paul Rogers
>> So, as I now work through LFS-8.1, and read the options in building >> gcc and other places, it seems to me kernel 4.x-based software has >> just gotten too "heavy" for i686 to be a reasonable build. > Could you please elaborate and give some pointers, why you think this? > > Paul It's

Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-08 Thread rslovers
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 10:31:40PM +0100, Thomas Trepl wrote: > Would you mind to try https://io.ax.lt/LFS/lfs/book/index.html ? Thanks for the link and effort, I had a brief look and I will try it the next time I build my system, glad to know it exists. --

Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-08 Thread Thomas Trepl
Am Donnerstag, den 08.03.2018, 17:27 +0300 schrieb rslov...@yandex.com: > I don't have any old hardware but I always build entire i686 > userland, my sole > motivation is to use wine to run old games, but it's a strong enough > one, and > I sincerely think I would be doing this forever... > >

Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-08 Thread Alain Toussaint
> I call that a "heavy lift".  So my question morphed into: when does i686 > hardware just lack the > horsepower to "run" modern, i.e. kernel-3.x or kernel-4.x, LFS systems? Maybe you don't know about Rob Landley's mkroot project (its only url for the moment:https://github. com/landley/mkroot)

Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-08 Thread rslovers
I don't have any old hardware but I always build entire i686 userland, my sole motivation is to use wine to run old games, but it's a strong enough one, and I sincerely think I would be doing this forever... Never tried the multiarch way, it just seems too messy for me. --

Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-08 Thread Ken Moffat
On Thu, Mar 08, 2018 at 07:50:48AM +0100, Paul Menzel wrote: > > > p.s. I still hope to get Meltdown/Spectre patches for linux-4.1.x > > i686 builds. > > As Linux 4.1 is a longterm series, you should get these patches. > Though, I’d just update to the latest Linux kernel release, also for >

Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-08 Thread William Harrington
On Wed, 07 Mar 2018 11:57:20 -0800 Paul Rogers wrote: > The i686 version runs fine.. What does that means? Nothing explodes? >I wanted to check that it runs as advertized in a "real" i686 with no extra >instructions on the side. What does that mean? It's well known

Re: [lfs-dev] Future of i686 builds (in gcc, et al.)

2018-03-07 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear Paul, Am Mittwoch, den 07.03.2018, 11:57 -0800 schrieb Paul Rogers: […] > So, as I now work through LFS-8.1, and read the options in building > gcc and other places, it seems to me kernel 4.x-based software has > just gotten too "heavy" for i686 to be a reasonable build. Could you please