Hi,
I downloaded the .iso image of the latest LiveCD
[lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2160.iso - kernel version 2.6.22.5], and wrote it
into a CD. But when I tried to install the same on my PC (intel
motherboard) from that LiveCD, it hangs at PCI: Probing PCI hardware
(bus 00) and does not come up. So, I
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
* Does the community still want the LiveCD project? (Consider that a
couple of the arguments above imply that the LFS LiveCD by its nature is
degrading the quality of LFS)
* If so, is the community prepared to lend help in keeping
nick levandoski wrote:
snip
Those were good comments.
ps
I would be glad to help with the LFS LiveCD project, the problem is im
not an expert but i did learn alot.
Ex=has been spurt=drip under pressure. ;-) So don't worry, your
future expertise is ahead of, not behind, you.
snip
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
* Does the community still want the LiveCD project? (Consider that a
couple of the arguments above imply that the LFS LiveCD by its nature is
degrading the quality of LFS)
* If so, is the community prepared to lend help in keeping it alive?
Thank you all for your
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
* Does the community still want the LiveCD project? (Consider that a
couple of the arguments above imply that the LFS LiveCD by its nature is
degrading the quality of LFS)
* If so, is the community prepared to lend help in keeping it alive
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 09:46:45PM +0100, Thomas Trepl wrote:
What I wished to have is a simple, clean BootCD with no
SchnickSchnack (how is that in English? Maybe extra stuff) on it
I think the best English idiom would be bells and whistles. But
thanks for the deutsche (?) idiom! I like it.
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
~snip~
I could let this thread continue for some more time, but I get the
impression that the ratio of votes will continue approximately the same.
as with the last time this subject came up :)
seems that while majority like the livecd project, getting more support
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
So we see at least two non-empty camps. One wants a strictly minimal CD, and
one
wants packages beyond it. The most democratic solution would be to make two
CDs (and that's, in fact, the origin of the talks about package management),
but
we don't have enough
Jeremy Huntwork a écrit :
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
* Does the community still want the LiveCD project?
(Consider that a
couple of the arguments above imply that the LFS
LiveCD by its nature is
degrading the quality of LFS)
* If so, is the community prepared to lend help in
keeping
Laurent HOAREAU wrote:
Jeremy Huntwork a écrit :
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
* Does the community still want the LiveCD project?
(Consider that a
couple of the arguments above imply that the LFS
LiveCD by its nature is
degrading the quality of LFS
support wrote:
Multiple 'windows' don't require X, personally i logon to 2 or 3 virtual
terminals, carry out the lfs build work in terminal 1 and have a copy of
the book open via lynx in terminal 2, then i can simply select with the
mouse to highlight and right click in VT1 to paste. To open
Hello Everyone,
It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be
killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially:
1) It is currently unmaintained
2) It removes the essential prerequisite of being able to configure a
Linux system
3) It leads to less testing from other
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be
killed.
I need to know two things:
* Does the community still want the LiveCD project?
* If so, is the community prepared to lend help in keeping it alive?
I can only speak for myself, but I
Howard_apfc6 wrote:
- Seems like the ultimate build platform for newbs.
That's exactly what I am against. LiveCD users create 90% of support requests.
Noobs (not to be confused with newbs) should be filtered out, e.g., by telling
them to install and configure a real distro.
Besides, the LFS
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Howard_apfc6 wrote:
- Seems like the ultimate build platform for newbs.
That's exactly what I am against. LiveCD users create 90% of support
requests.
Noobs (not to be confused with newbs) should be filtered out, e.g., by
telling
them to install
On Mon, Feb 25, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Alexander E. Patrakov
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howard_apfc6 wrote:
- Seems like the ultimate build platform for newbs.
That's exactly what I am against. LiveCD users create 90% of support
requests.
Noobs (not to be confused with newbs) should be filtered
- Seems like the ultimate build platform for newbs.
That's exactly what I am against. LiveCD users create 90% of support requests.
Noobs (not to be confused with newbs) should be filtered out, e.g., by telling
them to install and configure a real distro.
Agreed.
Besides, the LFS LiveCD
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Hello Everyone,
It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be
killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially:
1) It is currently unmaintained
ISTM this point is moot *if* the community wants to keep it. This is
rather a *result
Eric Stout wrote:
(that is, tools for raid, not the specific package raidtools.. mdadm is
much better in my opinion)
When was the last time you used the CD? mdadm has been available on it
for a long time. Or were you saying that there are other tools it is
missing?
--
JH
--
Eric Stout wrote:
But main stream distros these days have a lot more tools available to them
than the LiveCD can even dream of (simple technological fact due to the
storage capacity of the medium; CD/DVD versus HD) and typically include a
very simple means of installing what tools you don't
the LiveCD can even dream of (simple technological fact due to the
storage capacity of the medium; CD/DVD versus HD) and typically include a
very simple means of installing what tools you don't have. Installing
mdadm on the LiveCD two years ago was an outright pain compared to apt-get
install mdadm
Wit wrote:
All MHO - inaccuracies and all.
dons flame-retardent suit and activitates fire suppression system
No need to do that, at least not on my account. That was a very
interesting response and it has given me a good deal to consider. I
enjoyed the read thoroughly.
Thank you.
--
JH
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Howard_apfc6 wrote:
- Seems like the ultimate build platform for newbs.
That's exactly what I am against. LiveCD users create 90% of support
requests.
Noobs (not to be confused with newbs) should be filtered out, e.g., by
telling
them
I think there is an unwarranted aversion to support requests in this
community. If LFS is truly about education, it should welcome helping
users through the experience, instead of pushing them away. If anything,
this is more argument to have the FAQ kept up to date so that it is easy
to
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Eric Stout wrote:
(that is, tools for raid, not the specific package raidtools.. mdadm is
much better in my opinion)
When was the last time you used the CD? mdadm has been available on it
for a long time. Or were you saying that there are other tools it is
Wit wrote:
snip
It is more than a convenience. You don't draw files with vinegar, but
s/files/flies/# Freudian slip
with honey. You don't draw new community members by making it harder for
them to accomplish even a limited education goals, but by aiding and
abetting their efforts.
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Wit wrote:
Follow the KISS principal, not the inverse KISS principal (i.e Keep it
Stupid, Simple). ;-)
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I wasn't offering to add more items. On a
related post in another list I was already proposing to make the next CD
bare-bones and
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Eric Stout wrote:
But main stream distros these days have a lot more tools available to them
than the LiveCD can even dream of (simple technological fact due to the
storage capacity of the medium; CD/DVD versus HD) and typically include a
very simple means
But main stream distros these days have a lot more tools available to them
than the LiveCD can even dream of (simple technological fact due to the
storage capacity of the medium; CD/DVD versus HD) and typically include a
very simple means of installing what tools you don't have
Wit wrote:
Follow the KISS principal, not the inverse KISS principal (i.e Keep it
Stupid, Simple). ;-)
Yeah, don't get me wrong, I wasn't offering to add more items. On a
related post in another list I was already proposing to make the next CD
bare-bones and design a better core system. If
support wrote:
As for community involvement, if there was an easy
way to see a list of things to be done, i'm sure more people would get
involved, at the moment the contribute page on the website doesn't offer
any way to get involved in the development.
Good point. Noted and will look into
Wit wrote:
Not to be presumptive here, but don't get the cart before the horse. I'm
sure there are many good ideas available from both you and the potential
user community. But first focus only on getting a Yea or Nay about
the desirability and viability of the project. Those who have a
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Hello Everyone,
It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be
killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially:
1) It is currently unmaintained
2) It removes the essential prerequisite of being able to configure a
Linux system
3
that are much more sophisticated than the target audience of LFS.
+1. Let's please keep in mind that the only high priority goal for the
LiveCD is (or should be) to be able to follow the LFS book. Everything
else is sugar.
--
Dan
--
http://linuxfromscratch.org/mailman/listinfo/lfs-support
FAQ
Jeremy Huntwork wrote on 25-02-08 16:37:
Hello Everyone,
It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be
killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially:
1) It is currently unmaintained
2) It removes the essential prerequisite of being able to configure a
Linux
On Mon, Feb 25, at 09:37 Bauke Jan Douma wrote:
I personally have not used a LiveCD, but reading this whole
longwinded discussion, it appears to me that one might first
try to (re)establish a few goals and purposes for the LiveCD.
For instance (some of these mentioned here partially
Hi Jeremy,
Am Montag, 25. Februar 2008 16:37:13 schrieb Jeremy Huntwork:
**lot of things**
I'd like to see the LiveCD project in just a bit different light. Personally,
I would like so see it as a CDFS project (CD from scratch) where the *howto*
to build a bootable CD is the main focus
On Monday 25 February 2008 2:47:12 pm Hugo Grauls wrote:
[putolin]
JH
Without the LiveCD I would never have been able to get LFS6.2 up and
running. Biggest worry is to have the right basic tools at hand to build
from scratch, i.e. the adequate releases of GCC, linker, header files
etc
Alexander E. Patrakov wrote:
Besides, the LFS LiveCD has no real technical benefits as a host, except that
it
is preconfigured and already contains the packages - but why not download
them
separately in a town with a broadband connection, put onto a flash drive, and
use with your
Am Montag, 25. Februar 2008 19:00 schrieb Jeremy Huntwork:
When was the last time you used the CD?
6 weeks ago and I tried Knoppix, SuSE, Debian4 and shame on me, forgive!
WindowsXP, none worked. None! But the Live CD did it and after some
adjustment, Debian could start too. Because I couldn't
Am Montag, 25. Februar 2008 18:59 schrieb Wit:
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Hello Everyone,
It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be
killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially:
1) It is currently unmaintained
ISTM this point is
International Society of Travel
Matthias Feichtinger wrote:
Am Montag, 25. Februar 2008 18:59 schrieb Wit:
Jeremy Huntwork wrote:
Hello Everyone,
It has recently been suggested to me that the LFS LiveCD project be
killed. The main arguments for this are, essentially:
1) It is currently unmaintained
ISTM this point
I know im probably shooting this reply in the wrong direction but its early
and im late for work. Unfortunantly im relitivley new the project and linux
in general. After many unsuccessful attempts to build the LFS system from
the livecd I finally did it (took me while to figure it out) but to get
2008/2/25, Thomas Trepl [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Jeremy,
Am Montag, 25. Februar 2008 16:37:13 schrieb Jeremy Huntwork:
**lot of things**
I'd like to see the LiveCD project in just a bit different light.
Personally,
I would like so see it as a CDFS project (CD from scratch) where the
*howto
Alexander E. Patrakov a écrit :
Howard_apfc6 wrote:
- Seems like the ultimate build platform for newbs.
That's exactly what I am against. LiveCD users
create 90% of support requests.
Noobs (not to be confused with newbs) should be
filtered out, e.g., by telling
them to install
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